I'm sick of all the whining about running up scores

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It's stupid. I'm sick of people whining about the Patriots scoring with their backups or running the ball on 4th and 1 with a big lead.

Get real. When did the NFL become a freakin' Sunday School Picnic or a Pansy League where you give a damn about the other team's feelings?

This is professional athletics! When the Red Sox are up by 10 runs in the final inning, does anyone expect the batter to simply stand there and take all the pitches? Why are we okay with batters still trying to hit the ball or pitchers still trying to strike someone out in a blowout in baseball? Why are we okay with NBA teams still playing defense and still dunking the basketball when the game is a blowout? Yet in the NFL these days we think the team with the lead should just start taking a freakin' knee.

Personally, I agree with the fans in England who were booing the G-men today for kneeling down the last few plays. I'd love to see the victory formation outlawed and teams required to actually run a play every play till the game is over.

NE puts in their backups...should the coach tell his second and third string guys to NOT try to score? Please...these are professional athletes...they are trained to try and score. So it's 4th down...the choice was kick a fg and run up the score or run a play and give the Skins a chance to be men and stop you...or do you think they should have taken a knee and just handed the ball back to the Skins who were still playing their starters and trying to score?

These are professional athletes. It's up to the losing team to freakin' play the game and stop someone. The Commanders never ran up the white flag and quit, putting in scrubbs and running every play to kill the clock and go home, so why should the Patriots do it? Just to let the score be a little closer and save a grown man playing a professional sport feel better about his putrid performance?

Sorry...I don't have a problem with kicking a FG, like Dallas did a few years back with a big lead, in order to let a guy set a record, and I don't have a problem with the winning team handing the ball to a running back with a huge lead on 4th and one instead of kicking a FG or kneeling down so the other team can try to score some points. Maybe I'd have a problem with it if the winning team was up by 52 points and ran play action on 4th and 1 to throw a td pass and laugh it up on the sidelines, but even then I'd get over it quickly because the other professional team is supposed to do a job too.

Maybe Joe Gibbs ran off the field more out of embarrassment for the team he's responsible for and their pathetic effort than because NE hurt his feelings...I hope that's true, because if it was because he got his feelings hurt, then I have even less respect for him. Grow some stones and put together a better game plan or face the music.

I'm an old man, but I really don't get this whole "running up the score" and "classless" crap, no matter who the two teams are. Philly once faked the kneeldown in the final seconds of a game in order to throw a TD pass against us so Buddy Ryan could rub it in Tom Landry's face...a fake kneel down after a real kneel down...now that's a little classless...but the defense still could have made a freakin' play.

Running the ball on 4th and 1 is not unsportsmanlike. This is not little league and we're not talking about 7 year old boys.
 

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Cliff's Notes:

Wayne Motley gives running up the score two thumbs UP!
 

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Jay-D;1733872 said:
Cliff's Notes:

Wayne Motley gives running up the score two thumbs UP!

Actually, You're right, I do...and I really want to see football played for the entire 60 minutes.

However, I really don't see running the ball on 4th and 1 as running up the score.

Honestly, if you're the coach, do you kick the fg, run the ball, or just kneel down and say "here Mr. Gibbs, put your starters back out there against my backups and try to score again"?
 

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wayne motley;1733858 said:
This is professional athletics! When the Red Sox are up by 10 runs in the final inning, does anyone expect the batter to simply stand there and take all the pitches? Why are we okay with batters still trying to hit the ball or pitchers still trying to strike someone out in a blowout in baseball?

in baseball, it is different, and isn't dependent on time. a team in the lead cannot just sit down quietly because any given inning, a team can score as many points as possible until 3 outs. a game is over in the 9th inning if the team that is losing strikes out, not because the winning team strikes out.
 

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Teams getting mauled should be more embarassed.

Gibbs did an onside and was throwing till the end. He deserved all he had fed down his cakehole.
 

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I'm tired of the complete lack of class and sportsmanship from the Pats and any person that supports that kind of fooball.


There, now we're both tired of something.
 

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I dont have a problem with it either...the fact is they are good and playing better than everyone else right now

but if Brady goes down, they go from being a likely Super Bowl team to a team that might not even make the playoffs or would be 1 and done if they did get in...playing him late in these blowout games is just stupid

David
 

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Rack;1733885 said:
I'm tired of the complete lack of class and sportsmanship from the Pats and any person that supports that kind of fooball.


There, now we're both tired of something.
Are you tired of the steady drip, drip, drip of gonorrhea?


Sorry, slipped back to an old Cheech and Chong routine.
 

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Hostile;1733891 said:
Are you tired of the steady drip, drip, drip of gonorrhea?


Sorry, slipped back to an old Cheech and Chong routine.

Never had that problem, Hos, but I'd recommend you see a doctor about that. :D
 

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Nors;1733881 said:
Teams getting mauled should be more embarassed.

Gibbs did an onside and was throwing till the end. He deserved all he had fed down his cakehole.

Yep and that what you get.
 

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wayne motley;1733878 said:
Actually, You're right, I do...and I really want to see football played for the entire 60 minutes.

However, I really don't see running the ball on 4th and 1 as running up the score.

Honestly, if you're the coach, do you kick the fg, run the ball, or just kneel down and say "here Mr. Gibbs, put your starters back out there against my backups and try to score again"?

Not that I didnt love the Pats rubbing the Skins nose in it, but there are several things you left out.

1. Brady was throwing bombs to Moss up 38-0. The backup didnt come in until the Pats final drive. The Pats were running the score up with STARTERS not backups.

2. I dont really care what level of organized football it is, when you go for it on 4th down with a 5 TD lead......its is classless, sorry.

3. The Colts pulled Manning with a MUCH SMALLER LEAD. Dungy actually has some class and does not run the score up.

As far as the argument that the other team is still trying to score, when it is 38-0 and you have dominated the other team the entire freaking game, the odds of a 6 TD comeback is laughable. I think 35-3 was the largest deficit ever overcome in an NFL game.

The Pats were padding stats, thats all.:)
 

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Rack;1733885 said:
I'm tired of the complete lack of class and sportsmanship from the Pats and any person that supports that kind of fooball.


There, now we're both tired of something.

You didn't have to click on the thread Rack :rolleyes:;)
 

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What Bill Parcells did against the Bucs last year -- and what the Dolphins did against New England last year -- is showing class and respect for your opponent. Some coaches have it, some don't. And that's true whether people complain about it or not.
 

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Anyone old enough to remember when Jimmy did it to Notre Dame and Gerry Faust in Faust's last game? Jimmy said he taught his team to be aggressive and he couldn't tell his back ups to not make plays. Although I don't agree with going for it on 4th down and passing the ball, I think the whining makes the opposing team look weak. The rest of the NFL needs to improve and do something about slowing them down.

Also, the rest of the NFL is just now waking up to the fact that they were STUPID to let the Pats acquire Randy Moss to team up with Tom Brady for the cost of a measly 4th round pick. Why no one else in the NFL wanted him for that ridiculously low price is beyond me!
 

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smarta5150;1733902 said:
You didn't have to click on the thread Rack :rolleyes:;)

Where in my post did I say "Maybe these Whining threads will stop now?"

Did I mention that anywhere in my post?

Go look again.

See anything like that in there?


Ok then. Next time use that "comebac" (the sad attempt it was) on a post that actually mimicks then one you made in that other thread.

K, Chico?
 

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Hostile;1733905 said:
But I don't like needles.

Didn't even know needles were involved.


Sounds like you've had this problem before, Hos. :D


Have you been hanging out with Brittney Spears or Paris Hilton? :D
 

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CaptainAmerica;1733904 said:
Also, the rest of the NFL is just now waking up to the fact that they were STUPID to let the Pats acquire Randy Moss to team up with Tom Brady for the cost of a measly 4th round pick. Why no one else in the NFL wanted him for that ridiculously low price is beyond me!

he can give credit to officials turning a blind eye to some of his blatant push offs for that too though...he's had at least 4 or 5 tds as a direct result of pushing off...

David
 
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