I'm sick of all the whining about running up scores

[Dave_in-NC]

As Roger Goodell would say "coaches are held to a higher standard than players."

Chad Johnson, imo, does not disrespect the game at all, celebrations are part of the game. what else has he done?

Owens on the other hand, yes, he has somewhat disrespected the game when he was with the eagles. But he wanted a more money, he was playing at a hall of fame caliber for the eagles and was not getting paid for how well he was playing. He literally took that team and put them over the hump.

Oh ok. What about when he was a niner? What about last season when he disrespected coaches. I was brought up not to do that. Coaches and teammates are part of the game. Maybe Goodell should have a heart to heart with BB.

 

[VietCowboy]

This is real simple, if one team doesn't want the other team running up the score on them, then they need to stop them from doing it. If they can't stop them from doing it, then that's just tough, take your butt kicking like a man and don't freakin' whine about it.

well then, don't mess with a dying dog too often...it might with it's last breath hurt you. that's why dominant dogs during a fight don't kill a defeated dog (unless of course, they were breed to be violent killers).

 

[Royal Laegotti]

You are totally disregarding the word "respect".

"esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability"

That word does pertain to sports.

I am not complaining about running up the score, I'm just mad about how they are completely brushing off the respect of the game.

They respected the Commanders all week long, they respected them so much not to take them lightly and then go kick their hiney's all over the field and then say good things about the Commanders before and after the game.

I can't stand NE but all this whining about running up the score is silly, we're talking about PRO FOOTBALL here.

I loved it when we killed Buffalo in SB 27 and 28, but I bet nobody on this board who is a Cowboys fan was complaining when we scored 52 on them and should've been 59 if not for Leon Lett's bone head celebration and we ended up beating them by 35.

BTW it was that same Buffalo team that came back from 32 points down to beat Houston.

 

[ajk23az]

Oh ok. What about when he was a niner? What about last season when he disrespected coaches. I was brought up not to do that. Coaches and teammates are part of the game. Maybe Goodell should have a heart to heart with BB.

Last season? Owens disrespected coaches last season? He's been a model teammate since hes been with the Boys'.

TO said that he has changed, and he has, past is past, its done with.

Just goes back to respect of the game. BB should show respect to other players and coaches, and if you don't agree with that, then I would not like to have you as a friend.

But i guess if BB wants to destroy his relationships with other players, fine with me, karmas a b***c.

 

[ajk23az]

They respected the Commanders all week long, they respected them so much not to take them lightly and then go kick their hiney's all over the field and then say good things about the Commanders before and after the game.

I can't stand NE but all this whining about running up the score is silly, we're talking about PRO FOOTBALL here.

I loved it when we killed Buffalo in SB 27 and 28, but I bet nobody on this board who is a Cowboys fan was complaining when we scored 52 on them and should've been 59 if not for Leon Lett's bone head celebration and we ended up beating them by 35.

That was 2 games, and more importantly the most important games of the year, and for some their careers. But to not show any sportsmanship week after week in the regular season when you have the game won, is more silly.

 

[adbutcher]

What Bill Parcells did against the Bucs last year -- and what the Dolphins did against New England last year -- is showing class and respect for your opponent. Some coaches have it, some don't. And that's true whether people complain about it or not.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

But i guess if BB wants to destroy his relationships with other players, fine with me, karmas a b***c.

He doesn't have relationships with other players, atleast ones that matter, only the relationships with the players on his team matter to him. And I have no doubt that if any of those Commanders players from today, in the near future have a chance to go to NE and have the chance at a SB ring they'd sign on.

 

[ajk23az]

He doesn't have relationships with other players, atleast ones that matter, only the relationships with the players on his team matter to him. And I have no doubt that if any of those Commanders players from today, in the near future have a chance to go to NE and have the chance at a SB ring they'd sign on.

Please enlighten me how you know he doesn't have relationships with ANY other player. I would love to know.

 

[VietCowboy]

Last season? Owens disrespected coaches last season? He's been a model teammate since hes been with the Boys'.

TO said that he has changed, and he has, past is past, its done with.

Just goes back to respect of the game. BB should show respect to other players and coaches, and if you don't agree with that, then I would not like to have you as a friend.

But i guess if BB wants to destroy his relationships with other players, fine with me, karmas a b***c.

yep, you can still be good and show sportsmanship (ex. Colts this season).

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Last season? Owens disrespected coaches last season? He's been a model teammate since hes been with the Boys'.

TO said that he has changed, and he has, past is past, its done with.

Just goes back to respect of the game. BB should show respect to other players and coaches, and if you don't agree with that, then I would not like to have you as a friend.

Well that hurt
B]But i guess if BB wants to destroy his relationships with other players, fine with me, karmas a b***c.

I often wonder how many Cowboy players wouldn't jump ship to be a part of that team when these tirades appear every Sunday. Seems to me I hear allot of players say they would like to go to this team or that team because they are doing some thing special.

 

[ajk23az]

I often wonder how many Cowboy players wouldn't jump ship to be a part of that team when these tirades appear every Sunday. Seems to me I hear allot of players say they would like to go to this team or that team because they are doing some thing special.

If the any Cowboys players want to leave this up and coming team, Please, let them go.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Thanks for editing my post, and taking out "and coaches".

Please enlighten me how you know he doesn't have relationships with ANY other player. I would love to know.

I said atleast ones that matter, and what I said was that the only relationships that matter to him now are in his locker room. And it's obvious he doesn't care about pissing off other coaches.

The whole cheating scandle and the folks calling them cheaters is probably the best thing that could've happen to the NE players and coaches because they've seemed to rally around each other with a us against the league/world mentality and it's working. We'll see how it holds up against the Colts now.

 

[ajk23az]

I said atleast ones that matter, and what I said was that the only relationships that matter to him now are in his locker room. And it's obvious he doesn't care about pissing off other coaches.

The whole cheating scandle and the folks calling them cheaters is probably the best thing that could've happen to the NE players and coaches because they've seemed to rally around each other with a us against the league/world mentality and it's working. We'll see how it holds up against the Colts now.

Yeah. Hopefully the tide turns and the Colts run up the score on them. Even though there is hardly a chance that it will be a blowout.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Yeah. Hopefully the tide turns and the Colts run up the score on them. Even though there is hardly a chance that it will be a blowout.

I'd like to see Manning throw about 6 td passes and the Colts win. But I am proud of the Cowboys because they've been the only team to hang with NE for almost 4 quarters so far.

 

[Doomsday]

In baseball teams do NOT steal bases when up by 10 runs in the 8th inning. You play the games to win, not to embaress the other team, this isnt college football where teams are dependant on polls or votes to secure ratings. Hell Ive seen Dungy pull Manning at halftime on more then one occassion. It is just disrespectful and uncalled for to chuck bombs down the sideline in the 4th quarter of 38-0 game. Shows once again the Patriots are classless.

PS. If they did steal in that situation, someone is going to get hit with a fastball before the night is over. Too bad the Skins have no pride or they would of put a lick or 2 on someone.

 

[ajk23az]

Its been a good argument tonight, kept me busy for a while, but I gotta ska-daddle. But dont you think I'm backing down from my opinions

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Its been a good argument tonight, kept me busy for a while, but I gotta ska-daddle. But dont you think I'm backing down from my opinions

I don't have a problem with folks have different views and I don't think you're backing down. But whether the Pats are classless or not is really immaterial IMO, if teams don't want to get kicked around by them late in the game then they should stop them on the field.

I don't think the league or society's concensus should rise up and make a rule or anything to make teams stop running up the score or anything. I know nobody's suggested that but if the Pats continue to do what they are doing it wouldn't surprise me if the league made some kind of blow out rule like they've done in High Schools in some states and I'd hate to see that. But since it's not the Cowboys going around running up the score on teams then they probably won't make any rules against it.

 

[EPL0c0]

It's stupid. I'm sick of people whining about the Patriots scoring with their backups or running the ball on 4th and 1 with a big lead.

Get real. When did the NFL become a freakin' Sunday School Picnic or a Pansy League where you give a damn about the other team's feelings?

This is professional athletics! When the Red Sox are up by 10 runs in the final inning, does anyone expect the batter to simply stand there and take all the pitches? Why are we okay with batters still trying to hit the ball or pitchers still trying to strike someone out in a blowout in baseball? Why are we okay with NBA teams still playing defense and still dunking the basketball when the game is a blowout? Yet in the NFL these days we think the team with the lead should just start taking a freakin' knee.

Personally, I agree with the fans in England who were booing the G-men today for kneeling down the last few plays. I'd love to see the victory formation outlawed and teams required to actually run a play every play till the game is over.

NE puts in their backups...should the coach tell his second and third string guys to NOT try to score? Please...these are professional athletes...they are trained to try and score. So it's 4th down...the choice was kick a fg and run up the score or run a play and give the Skins a chance to be men and stop you...or do you think they should have taken a knee and just handed the ball back to the Skins who were still playing their starters and trying to score?

These are professional athletes. It's up to the losing team to freakin' play the game and stop someone. The Commanders never ran up the white flag and quit, putting in scrubbs and running every play to kill the clock and go home, so why should the Patriots do it? Just to let the score be a little closer and save a grown man playing a professional sport feel better about his putrid performance?

Sorry...I don't have a problem with kicking a FG, like Dallas did a few years back with a big lead, in order to let a guy set a record, and I don't have a problem with the winning team handing the ball to a running back with a huge lead on 4th and one instead of kicking a FG or kneeling down so the other team can try to score some points. Maybe I'd have a problem with it if the winning team was up by 52 points and ran play action on 4th and 1 to throw a td pass and laugh it up on the sidelines, but even then I'd get over it quickly because the other professional team is supposed to do a job too.

Maybe Joe Gibbs ran off the field more out of embarrassment for the team he's responsible for and their pathetic effort than because NE hurt his feelings...I hope that's true, because if it was because he got his feelings hurt, then I have even less respect for him. Grow some stones and put together a better game plan or face the music.

I'm an old man, but I really don't get this whole "running up the score" and "classless" crap, no matter who the two teams are. Philly once faked the kneeldown in the final seconds of a game in order to throw a TD pass against us so Buddy Ryan could rub it in Tom Landry's face...a fake kneel down after a real kneel down...now that's a little classless...but the defense still could have made a freakin' play.

Running the ball on 4th and 1 is not unsportsmanlike. This is not little league and we're not talking about 7 year old boys.

Speaking as a fan of the game:

If the Patriots (or any team) were at the 1yard line and there were :02 and went for it...ok, that's classless. But despite being up by 38pts, when there's still 15 minutes left, you continue to play the game. What do people want? Should they have just taken a knee on every posession in the 2nd half?

The real gripe should be that the other team (Commanders in this case) appeared to give up; now there's giving the fans what they want.

I may not like the Patriots and Bilichick's a cheater, but they did what we all expect of our team: play whistle to whistle. This sounds like the mamby-pambies that support not keeping score for kids' soccer games so nobody gets their feelings hurt...too frickin' bad.

 

[badleelee]

Well i was always taught that if u want something done, U do it yourself. So stop them from scoring.

 

[tyke1doe]

This is real simple, if one team doesn't want the other team running up the score on them, then they need to stop them from doing it. If they can't stop them from doing it, then that's just tough, take your butt kicking like a man and don't freakin' whine about it.

Isn't that a contradiction? If they could stop it it wouldn't be a blowout now would it?

Hhhmmmm!