I'm sorry Wade Phillips

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Doomsday101 said:
I have stood by Wade side from the get go.

LOL

Of course you have. You stand by everything Jerry does - Gailey, Campo, Wade.

Good you finally got one right.
 

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I never thought Wade would turn it around even enough to win a playoff game so I have to admit I was wrong.

I also kinda get the sense Wade went along with Jerry bringing it Zach Thomas last year but when that didn't work he went out and got a guy he knew would work in Brooking.

Also look no further than the Philly coaching booth last night for one of Wade's best moves; Brian Stewart.

Wade unsaddled Dallas of Stewart and he ended up on Philly's defensive staff. The staff whose defense gave up 900 yards of offense to Dallas in the last two games.

If no one knew how much Jim Johnson would be missed, they sure do now.
 

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Chief;3216877 said:
My opinion of Wade hasn't changed.

I like him as a person and think he's a great defensive coordinator. He has the defense playing at a very high level right now.

But I still believe he isn't cut out to manage an entire football team. I honestly believe Jerry is doing a lot of that for him.

Wade is running the defense, Garrett is running the offense, and Jerry is overseeing the entire operation. Plus, some key players (Romo and Brooking in particular) have provided great leadership this year.

I loved Jerry's quote after the game. This isn't about winning one playoff game. Their goals are higher than that. Let's win the next one, then another, then another. That's the way you have to think.

The problem with this take and ones like it are they do not realize what a huge compliment this is.

Wade ALLOWS players to be leaders by stepping back. He ALLOWS Jerry to be heard by recognizing Jerry is the GM and his boss. He ALLOWS Garrett to call the offense with minimal input.

As any grown adult who has ever had a job will tell you, boss that allow you to get the job done while supporting you make the BEST bosses. Micro-managers make things worse not better. They drive off plenty of really good resources.
 

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jterrell;3217689 said:
Wade ALLOWS players to be leaders by stepping back. He ALLOWS Jerry to be heard by recognizing Jerry is the GM and his boss. He ALLOWS Garrett to call the offense with minimal input.

I think Jerry is the one allowing here. He's in charge. He told Wade that Garrett is your offensive coordinator. He told Wade, these are your players. He told Wade, you take over the defense.

Wade allows Jerry to be heard by recognizing Jerry is the GM and his boss?

That's mighty benevolent of Wade to give Jerry room to operate.

Something tells me that Jerry will do whatever the hell he wants and he doesn't need Wade to allow it. :laugh2:
 

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hawklegion;3214402 said:
I'm not sorry, he is a good DC, bad HC and is getting lucky. I hope the luck lasts but this is a real case where Jerry's "500 guys could have coached this team" is dead on.
Uh, uh, ok.:cool:
 

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Chief;3217776 said:
I think Jerry is the one allowing here. He's in charge. He told Wade that Garrett is your offensive coordinator. He told Wade, these are your players. He told Wade, you take over the defense.

Wade allows Jerry to be heard by recognizing Jerry is the GM and his boss?

That's mighty benevolent of Wade to give Jerry room to operate.

Something tells me that Jerry will do whatever the hell he wants and he doesn't need Wade to allow it. :laugh2:
Pretty sure Spencer, Jenkins, Brookings, Olshansky and other moves have Wades fingerprints all over them. Jerry has always had control. That's part of a GMs job description. But I'm loving that people like you are being proven wrong.
 

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hawklegion;3214402 said:
I'm not sorry, he is a good DC, bad HC and is getting lucky. I hope the luck lasts but this is a real case where Jerry's "500 guys could have coached this team" is dead on.

QFPS!!!!
(quoted for pure stupidity)
 

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I didn't think there was any way Wade Phillips would get this team to the playoffs, much less win a playoff game, much less stomp the Boids into the ground twice in a row, much less beat the previously undefeated Saints at their place.... but he sure did. I wanted him gone, the sooner the better, but he has this team playing to prove something and playing great. I'm sorry I didn't believe in Wade Phillips, and for wanting him fired. He has made me a believer.

GO COWBOYS!
 

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I don't mind, at all, admiting I thought Wade was the wrong guy for the job and was holding this team back.

I was wrong.

You've earned yourself and extention Wade and I couldn't be more happy to have been wrong.
 

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A couple of my boys were lamenting the fact that it looks like Wade will be back and I had to set them straight! No matter what you personally think of WP, he obviously has his team's support and they're ballin' for him! Why anyone would want him gone because of his supposed happy-go-lucky demeanor is beyond me. As long as he has the team's support and their improving under his leadership, I'm all for him manning the headset. I know we've been spoiled by the cerebral calmness of Landry and the intensity & fire of Jimmy J., but we should use those two as examples of how success can be achieved by different means and realize there is no one way to win in the NFL!
 

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I have to admit it, Wade is a good coach, finally getting that monkey off his back and that of the Cowboys. While the SB is still the goal. He has been a good coach. I wrote about possibly missing out on a great coach (Shanahan), which may be true, but in his 3 years he has 2 East Titles and that elusive playoff win. Regardless of what happens, he has proven he is a good coach!! The Boys have been competitive and successful over his tenure. Frustrating at times yes, but we have no fall back, we expect SB or nothing. Which is the only way to go...Go get em Wade....

Now if we lose to Minny I will change my mind?? Kidding of course!!
 

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theogt;3217810 said:
Pretty sure Spencer, Jenkins, Brookings, Olshansky and other moves have Wades fingerprints all over them. .

Right.

And Jerry allowed Wade to do that, not the other way around.
 

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BehindEnemyLinez;3217872 said:
A couple of my boys were lamenting the fact that it looks like Wade will be back and I had to set them straight! No matter what you personally think of WP, he obviously has his team's support and they're ballin' for him! Why anyone would want him gone because of his supposed happy-go-lucky demeanor is beyond me. As long as he has the team's support and their improving under his leadership, I'm all for him manning the headset. I know we've been spoiled by the cerebral calmness of Landry and the intensity & fire of Jimmy J., but we should use those two as examples of how success can be achieved by different means and realize there is no one way to win in the NFL![/quote]
:nono2:
Careful...you are sounding WAY too logical here.
 

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Some interesting and surprising takes. I wonder what the natives are going to say after we whoop the Viqueens?
 

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Chief;3217909 said:
Right.

And Jerry allowed Wade to do that, not the other way around.
Same can be said of Parcells, Jimmy, etc. Not sure this is a point worth making, but if it's all you have to fall back on, I guess it does speak to your position.
 

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I was initially on board with Jerry hiring Wade.

After the way the season ended in 07 I really felt like he was way too soft and should of been fired at that point regardless of his 13-3 regular season record.

Since that point I have been all about counting the days until he was finally released.

I have to eat my words and say the team seems focused on the task at hand and appears to be peaking when it counts. Congrats to Wade for sticking to his style and getting this team headed in the right direction. Sorry for doubting you.
 

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theogt;3217966 said:
Same can be said of Parcells, Jimmy, etc. Not sure this is a point worth making, but if it's all you have to fall back on, I guess it does speak to your position.

What are you talking about?

JT said Wade allowed Jerry to be the GM. That's what I was responding to.
 
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