I'm starting to get a gut

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WarC;2777605 said:
It's really a crime because in the Victorian era a man with a little beer gut was seen as fashionable and sexy. It implied that he was well-to-do and enjoyed a large, healthy diet.

unfortunately women were the same. probably why all these period dramas the bbc produce the evil fat lord is sleeping with all the servant girls ;)
 

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JerryAdvocate;2777216 said:
ugh, I hate vegetables

was thinking about taking up running, now I will definitely/probably do it

Definitely start running, you'll see see noticeable changes within 2 weeks. You could also try alternative workouts, like kayaking or rowing, something that keeps your heart rate up while also working your upper body. Swimming is great too.
 

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Another thing that will help you shed the gut is to eat oatmeal about 3-5 times a week. The kind you actually have to cook for about 5 minutes, not the instant stuff. This is a good source of fiber and it will purge all the crap in your guts. Also boil some green tea 3-5 times a week around 7-8 pm, drink about 3-4 cups. The hot liquid will stimulate your metabolism and green tea is good for you to.
 

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ShiningStar;2777646 said:
This is why i brought up genetics and people dont comprehend it. You, not you personally, but the human body needs a certain amount of calories every day.

You can streamline your diet and eat and do whatever you want in moderation, but to think because you eat Jerky and skip some meals means you arent due for a heart attack. IN fact, its starting to become clear some heart attacks are related to the brain more than the heart. So it doesnt matter what you skip or think, whatever is going to happen is going to happen.

Genetics is king when it comes to the body and all other is just a guideline.

Swimming does work Jerry, it works every muscle and it keeps you more fit than bulk than anything.

I agree with this and always have.

There's no heart disease or trouble in my immediate family (mom, dad, grand parents, etc....) and I happen to believe that THAT'S the most dominant barometer. More than diet and/or exercise. That's of course not to say that because there's no hereditary reason for concern, that I'm gonna' drink beer and eat bacon slathered in butter every day either. But I do believe in the hereditary stuff.

MY BIGGEST THING is my wife. She looks better at 44 than she did the day I married her. Don't take this the wrong way, but it's an "Oriental" thing. She's Japanese/Filipino-American, so she's not prone to being "big boned" to begin with. And, she doesn't have to work at it either! She just stays pretty and in shape and (by all accounts, not my bias) she's just a total knockout!

So I've got this "curse" in that I have to keep up with her. I do my best to retain "the guy she married", however a losing battle it is! She got CARDED four months ago! REALLY! The bartender wouldn't get her a drink until he saw her I.D.!!! I'm standing there and saying "what am I, some old spinster or something??" You CARD her but you don't card me?!?!?! That's enough to get you to skip breakfast and lunch, and dine on pretzels and Jerky for a while.................just trying to keep up appearances.
 

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bbgun;2777197 said:
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OMG.....:lmao:
 

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the kid 05;2777225 said:
my buddy told me its the fastest and most effective way to get rid of your stomach

And the absolute best way to ruin your knees, unless its a treadmill.
 

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PullMyFinger;2777757 said:
And the absolute best way to ruin your knees, unless its a treadmill.

Concrete wreaks havoc on them. Running is just torture to me.

I'll tell you what, get The Perfect Pushup. That will burn some fat. It works out every major group in your upper body. I've gotten to where I can do 50 in a row. It's the only exercise I do.
 

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PullMyFinger;2777757 said:
And the absolute best way to ruin your knees, unless its a treadmill.

No idea if it was running that ruined my knees or not...it was probably skateboarding and snowboarding....but my knees absolutely kill me after a short 2 mile run these days. I used to run up to 50 miles a week in my early twenties...now I'd be lucky to get in 10.

...and vta....did you really say you won't by regular grocery store celery? Am I the only one that can't taste celery? I only eat it with wings, peanut butter, or ranch....it's just crunchy water otherwise. :D
 

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tomson75;2777770 said:
No idea if it was running that ruined my knees or not...it was probably skateboarding and snowboarding....but my knees absolutely kill me after a short 2 mile run these days. I used to run up to 50 miles a week in my early twenties...now I'd be lucky to get in 10.

...and vta....did you really say you won't by regular grocery store celery? Am I the only one that can't taste celery? I only eat it with wings, peanut butter, or ranch....it's just crunchy water otherwise. :D

Ya it is. Pretty good to slice up a piece and put it in some tuna.
 

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...and I highly recommend p90x.

I've lost 10lbs. Significantly reduced my body fat %. Increased my pushup max to about 65 (100 is my goal) from a paltry 35...I was shocked how much this hurt my shoulders when I started...I used to do hundreds a day when I was younger.

Increased my pull up max to 16-17 (30 is my goal).

Significantly increased my flexibility, and likely my vertical as well.

I've been doing it off and on for about six months, the last month has been pretty regular....and I don't do it 6 days a week like they suggest. If someone had the time and determination to follow the program closely, they'd definitely get into INCREDIBLE shape. For most people, it'd be the best shape of their lives.

It's a total body workout, and I feel great. Very well thought out.
 

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Jon88;2777796 said:
What is a P90X?

It's a relatively intensive workout. The product itself consists of 12 dvds. All you need is a pull up bar, free weights or resistance bands, and a little bit of space.

Even the weight training aspects will get your heart rate up.

http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_programs/p90x.do


...and I'll tell you one thing...I'll never make fun of people that do Yoga again. The Yoga dvd for p90x is a ball buster.
 

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tomson75;2777770 said:
...and vta....did you really say you won't by regular grocery store celery? Am I the only one that can't taste celery? I only eat it with wings, peanut butter, or ranch....it's just crunchy water otherwise. :D

Yeah. I don't notice much of difference with potatoes and lettuce, but celery, carrots and apples from the regular supply are lousy. They all taste bitter. Give it a try, buy some from the regular stock and get some organic and you'll taste a difference.

Celery has plenty of flavor and I use it a lot in soups and like PMF said, chopped up in tuna salad, in place of raw onions like most people use.
 

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tomson75;2777770 said:
No idea if it was running that ruined my knees or not...it was probably skateboarding and snowboarding....but my knees absolutely kill me after a short 2 mile run these days. I used to run up to 50 miles a week in my early twenties...now I'd be lucky to get in 10.

...and vta....did you really say you won't by regular grocery store celery? Am I the only one that can't taste celery? I only eat it with wings, peanut butter, or ranch....it's just crunchy water otherwise. :D

It's called getting old :laugh2:
 

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Found this blog one day and kept it, although I didnt get a gut until after college, I like the article a lot.









"Fat guys kick ***"

If I ate less, I'd lose weight. But I don't, because I love food.

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That the world is run by fat guys is no secret (more on this later), yet Americans devote a tremendous amount of time, effort and money to losing weight without ever stopping to consider the advantages of obesity. And the advantages are many -- not least of which is that you can eat whatever you want.

I'm a fat guy -- always have been. I'm not "big-boned" (surprise, there's no such thing), I don't "carry it well," and I'm neither "husky" nor "just a little heavy." There's nothing wrong with any of my glands. I'm not a victim in any way. I'm a fat guy because I eat too much. If I ate less, I'd lose weight. But I don't, because I love food. I'm a fat guy, as in I could lose 50 pounds and still be fat, as in I'm 5-foot-10 and 250 very apparent pounds (plus or minus 10 pounds depending on what I ate that day). I'm a fat guy, and I'm not alone.

According to a study published in the May 29, 2008, issue of Science, 54 percent of American adults (and 25 percent of children) are overweight (and that figure is likely skewed downwards by all the people who crash-diet the week before their annual physicals because they know they're going to get weighed). We, the fat, are the rapidly expanding majority. (The fat population has grown by 33 percent since 1978.) It is the thin who are abnormal.

I enjoy being a fat guy, although I must confess I wouldn't want to be a fat girl. The societal deck really is stacked against them (unfairly, I might add, because fat girls are in many ways superior to skinny ones). But being a fat guy is great. I've never felt that my weight kept me from getting a job or a girl, or from gaining admittance to a club. And it has many, many advantages.

Fat guys are strong. Ask any bar owner who hires bouncers, or anybody who gets in a lot of fights, or any high school wrestler. They'll all tell you the same thing: Don't mess with fat guys.

Despite the propaganda of 10,000 suburban strip-mall tae kwon do "academies" and health-club self-defense classes, the simple truth is that victory in a fight is largely a matter of inertia. "The 300-pound tub-of-lard beats the 165-pound musclehead every time."

In competitive wrestling, if one guy outweighs another by a few pounds, they put him in a different weight class -- the match wouldn't even be fun. Every fat guy is inherently strong, but the ultimate weapon is the fat guy who knows how to fight (aka the sumo wrestler).

Fat guys aren't as slow as you think, either. I don't have time to explain all of Newtonian physics to you, but remember that a body in motion tends to remain in motion. Fat guys may have trouble turning on a dime, but they can move in one direction with great alacrity and effectiveness, as demonstrated repeatedly in every NFL game.

Still, the fat guy is essentially a peaceful creature. War is for the thin. Fighting requires effort, and minimum effort is the mantra of the fat guy. Efficiency and economy of movement are the fat guy's greatest allies. The thin think nothing of bounding up four flights of stairs, running to catch a bus or invading a Caribbean nation, but fat guys plan their days around avoiding these very situations.

But they don't avoid dating. Dating is eating. Nearly every date centers around a meal, and fat guys are far and away the best dining companions. They are uninhibited eaters, they know all the best restaurants and they know how to cook. Therefore, fat guys are the best dates.

The thin choose restaurants based on ambiance; fat guys choose restaurants because the food is good. The thin may know how to operate a grill (badly) and make breakfast (badly), but every fat guy intuitively knows how to truss a capon, bake a wedding cake and roast a whole hog.

The fat guy's love life is inextricably linked to his love of food. For the fat guy, food and sex are two points on a continuum. No fat guy would ever dream of making a move on a girl without first feeding her a nice meal -- it's just not done. And when you're out with a fat guy you don't have to worry about looking like a pig. You can eat whatever you want, because nothing makes a fat guy hornier than a girl who can devour a big steak (although fat guys also appreciate skinny girls because they represent leftovers). As an aside, fat guys can hold their liquor. This is a simple biological fact. Remember those charts they show you in driver's ed? How much you can drink is a direct function of how much you weigh.

And who better to bring home to mom than a fat guy? Mothers, especially immigrant mothers who speak little English and have yet to be co-opted by American neuroses, love men who can eat. They (correctly) equate eating prowess with intellect and potential for success.

The fat guy wages a stealthy seduction. The woman sees the fat guy as a confidant. She thinks the relationship is platonic. Eventually, she marries the fat guy. Sound familiar?

When it comes to sexual prowess, women in the know prefer fat guys because fat guys are better in bed. The thin and the fit like to demonstrate their manliness by getting on top and banging away, but no fat guy in his right mind would do the equivalent of 100 push ups when he has the opportunity to lie on his back. Plus, do you know what the odds are of a girl getting off in the missionary position? If I have to tell you, you're obviously not a fat guy. But do you know what the odds are of a girl getting off when she's on top? Pretty damn good. And with minimal effort (i.e., reach down and help out with your fingers), you can make that a virtual lock (if that doesn't work, it's her problem -- not yours). For every hard-bodied two-pump-chump out there, there's a fat guy ready to lie back and provide an erect instrument for as long as need be.

Fat guys are particularly well-suited to being passive sex partners for fit-and-trim athletic girls who have the stamina to ride all night. You've seen the couples; now you know why. If you want a man who will make the earth move, a fat guy is still your best candidate (see inertia and Newtonian physics, above). Remember when Chris Farley and Patrick Swayze had a dancing contest on "Saturday Night Live"? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

The best thing is that fat guys sincerely appreciate women who deign to sleep with them, because every fat guy harbors the deep-seated fear that he's unattractive. And really, what many women want (more so even than great sex) is to be appreciated. Fat guys are particularly appreciative of fellatio, because it's the ultimate in minimum-effort sex, even less strenuous than masturbation. And fat guys are themselves masters of oral sex, because their mouths are so agile and in such good shape from all that eating (and because all they think about is sex, food and maybe Seven of Nine on "Star Trek: Voyager").

There was a time in history when, to get respect, you had to be fat. It meant you were affluent. It meant you were healthy. Now it's all twisted around: You can never be too thin or too rich, they say. But while it's possible nowadays for anybody on food stamps to maintain an impressive body weight by eating potato chips and Entenmann's chocolate doughnuts, the fat-as-healthy stereotype is making a comeback -- at least in the gay community -- and it's only a matter of time before straight people catch on.

It's simple: As my friend David, they gayest guy I know, put it to me, "Everybody knows fat guys don't have AIDS. In the gay community, fat is in."

I pity the thin. They spend their lives fighting the inevitable weight gains that come with age, butting heads with their chubby destinies. When they finally get fat, which they all do, they become inconsolable. Their spouses and partners, terrified by this harbinger of what is to come for them, are likely to up and leave. The formerly thin die miserable and alone, raging against the injustice that has befallen them.

The lifelong fat guy experiences no such problems. He's a rock, a source of stability for all around him. He was fat as a child and remains fat. He looks no worse in middle age than at age 20, and therefore his lifetime of fatness keeps him looking young (plus, it is well-known in the dermatological community that fat equals fewer wrinkles).

I wasnt a fat kid, I got fat after college and I took some flak for it. But now, as I enter my 40s, all my formerly svelte friends are getting fat -- and I'm having the last laugh.

Now, I'm enjoying my life, whereas my slowly ballooning friends are consumed by the battle against fat. They climb pretend stairs, "spin" on pretend bicycles and run for dear life on treadmills. They deprive themselves of bodily pleasure, engage in self-indulgent and self-righteous fad dieting (no meat one month; no carbohydrates the next) and are otherwise miserable companions. They are particularly insufferable at the dinner table, because they are driven by an irresistible impulse to deliver a running commentary on the nutritional and medical ramifications of every bite they (and I) eat.

Yet, self righteous though they may be, the joke's on them. Thinness is an unattainable goal. We've all seen the charts and tables -- you know, the ones that say the "ideal weight" for a 5-foot-7 man is 138 pounds. Maybe that's what people weigh in television fantasyland, but, according to Kathryn Putnam Yarborough, a therapist at the Center for Eating Disorders at St. Joseph Medical Center in Towson, Md., "Less than 5 percent of the population, healthfully and genetically, can expect to achieve the shapes and sizes the media portrays as ideal. The media holds this unrealistic goal up to us and suggests that we try to reach it. No wonder so many men and women are struggling with body-image dissatisfaction."

Never trust a skinny chef, even less a skinny restaurant reviewer. Would you believe it has now become commonplace for restaurant reviewers to negotiate gym memberships as part of their employment agreements? It's a latter-day myth of Sisyphus.

Speaking of myths, Western culture's belief that thin is better is a rejection not only of common sense but also of basic human instinct. Children and animals (the most anthropologically pure subjects available) love fat guys. Watch the baby's face light up when it sees a fat guy. Watch the dog beg for a fat guy's attention. They understand.

Non-Western cultures, which invariably have less emotional baggage than ours, revere fat guys. The fat Buddha is worshiped the world over. Only in self-flagellatory Western religions are our idols so anorexic.

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But, you say, being fat is unhealthy.

The thin see this as the trump card in any discussion of weight. But even if the statistics are true, even if being fat is unhealthy, can we really do anything about it? Despite the $35 billion a year that Americans spend on weight-loss programs, the Federal Trade Commission reports that 95 percent of the 50 million Americans who will go on diets this year will fail. Even better, according to the Center for Eating Disorders, "33-50 percent of these people gain to a higher weight," which means we're talking about a serious waste of money.

Although near-constant attention is paid to the health risks of being fat (the National Institutes of Health says that "someone who is 40 percent overweight is twice as likely to die prematurely as an average-weight person," and the American Heart Association calls obesity a "major risk factor" in heart disease), the consequences of the war on fat are largely ignored. Yet the unquestionable harms of eating disorders and diet-drug abuse surely must be weighed against the largely speculative harms attributable to weighing more than the "ideal" weight. For example, The Center for Eating Disorders' records indicate that 12 million Americans suffer from anorexia, bulimia and various other disorders -- and 20 percent of these people experience premature death.

Moreover, the one statistic glaringly missing from most mortality studies is quality of life. How much happier is the person who lives life free of the constant pressure of negative body-image and fad dieting? How many days, months or even years of life is that happiness worth?

Still, perhaps there is another explanation for the statistics.

Have you considered that the so-called evidence on weight and mortality has been fabricated? That a secret brotherhood of fat guys has engineered what can only be described as the most effective disinformation campaign in human history? That fat guys want to keep you thin, miserable, afraid and powerless so they can enjoy the fruits of your labor?

Think about it. Fat guys sit around and eat whatever they want. Meanwhile, they tamper with the statistics and use fear of obesity to sap the thin of their energy and will. They keep the thin exercising and distracted, like rats in a maze, like gerbils on a Habitrail.

This master plan also includes a carefully cultivated image that allows fat guys to manipulate the thin into doing their work. The fat guy sits behind a desk all day, most likely screwing his secretary, while the secretary's athletic husband is out fighting fires (fat guys have made it very difficult for themselves to pass the firefighters test), protecting democracy (fat guys have arranged it so that the military will not accept overweight recruits) or otherwise creating wealth for fat guys to exploit. The fat guy holds the ladder while the thin ascend, risking life and limb to do the fat guy's bidding.

Actors are thin; producers are fat. Candidates are thin; chiefs of staff are fat. The fat guy retreats from the spotlight, content to be served. Content to rule the world.

And so, the next time you see a fat guy eating a double cheeseburger or struggling up a flight of stairs, do not pity him. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
 

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vta;2777809 said:
Yeah. I don't notice much of difference with potatoes and lettuce, but celery, carrots and apples from the regular supply are lousy. They all taste bitter. Give it a try, buy some from the regular stock and get some organic and you'll taste a difference.

Celery has plenty of flavor and I use it a lot in soups and like PMF said, chopped up in tuna salad, in place of raw onions like most people use.

That's cool. I might have to try out some organic stuff then. I'm not a big veggie person either, but I'm not afraid to try.

I absolutely love peppers....have you noticed a big difference in organic peppers?
 
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