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[Doomsday]

Blame Jerry for sticking with QC and company, not BP for bringing in the best QB option available. If Drew is able to perform for 3 years than now is the time to find his replacement so we dont repeat the foolishness.

 

[TSquare]

My other point is that this is a playoff caliber team, and if not for a few bad breaks and an injury or two, it would be solidly in the playoffs right now. Probably not so with a rookie QB in there. If the Cowboys don't make it, hindsight is 20/20, I guess. I also believe this team is positioned to be solidly in the playoffs next year if they make a couple good moves in the offseason. I believe the team BP had envisioned was the one we saw last week, with JJ running for 194 and a solid performance from the passing game. Add some depth at OL, and it looks really good.

 

[big dog cowboy]

My other point is that this is a playoff caliber team, and if not for a few bad breaks and an injury or two, it would be solidly in the playoffs right now. Probably not so with a rookie QB in there. If the Cowboys don't make it, hindsight is 20/20, I guess. I also believe this team is positioned to be solidly in the playoffs next year if they make a couple good moves in the offseason. I believe the team BP had envisioned was the one we saw last week, with JJ running for 194 and a solid performance from the passing game. Add some depth at OL, and it looks really good.

one word........kicker.

 

[TSquare]

one word........kicker.

That too! Damn. I always forget about those little buggers.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I am in favor of grooming a young quarterback.

I believe we tried that with Quincy.

He failed.

Romo brings nothing to the table for me. Short and weak armed, this is Clint Stoerner 2, in my opinion.

In football, you take the starting job by performance. Not because you looked good when you were a collegiate player five years ago.

I am not sold on Henson as I was.

Fact is, I think this guy is eating salary for no reason. If he was as talented as some seem to make out in this thread, then why is he #3? Because he isn't absorbing the offense, or cannot function at this level.

If it was me, and Brady Quinn came out, I would do whatever it took to move up to get this guy. Provided we have the ammo to do so. That might require next year's first.

He could work toward being a starter as Bledsoe finishes his career.

But this idea that Henson somehow has the talent and the old man is ignoring it because of some ego thing is ridiculous.

It has been my experience watching this game for more years than I wish to admit that coaches tend to play the best players and not sit them.

And exactly how well would this and any other board have taken another 4-12 season with Henson under center. Just the games we lost this season caused a firestorm of people calling for Parcell's head.

Henson is a wasted pick. The sooner we accept this and move on, the better this team will be.

 

[rcaldw]

I am in favor of grooming a young quarterback.

I believe we tried that with Quincy.

He failed.

Romo brings nothing to the table for me. Short and weak armed, this is Clint Stoerner 2, in my opinion.

In football, you take the starting job by performance. Not because you looked good when you were a collegiate player five years ago.

I am not sold on Henson as I was.

Fact is, I think this guy is eating salary for no reason. If he was as talented as some seem to make out in this thread, then why is he #3? Because he isn't absorbing the offense, or cannot function at this level.

If it was me, and Brady Quinn came out, I would do whatever it took to move up to get this guy. Provided we have the ammo to do so. That might require next year's first.

He could work toward being a starter as Bledsoe finishes his career.

But this idea that Henson somehow has the talent and the old man is ignoring it because of some ego thing is ridiculous.

It has been my experience watching this game for more years than I wish to admit that coaches tend to play the best players and not sit them.

And exactly how well would this and any other board have taken another 4-12 season with Henson under center. Just the games we lost this season caused a firestorm of people calling for Parcell's head.

Henson is a wasted pick. The sooner we accept this and move on, the better this team will be.

The simplest way for me to answer this is to simply acknowledge that we completely disagree about coaches sometimes having it in for a player. In fact, sometimes it isn't even the coach, it is the owner. Would that happen in the NFL?

I don't know, ask Marcus Allen about Al Davis. That was purely a matter of Allen not having talent when he was rotting away on a Raiders sideline, wasn't it?

I DO believe that Parcells has a problem with Henson, and I don't think its all about talent either.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Parcells had a problem with Hutchinson.

Was that about talent?

During his stint in the NFL, please cite for me the irrefutable proof that Henson has it.

Show me the game, the series, or even the pass which signals his abilities.

You seem to think he has this talent. I want to see what you see.

Right now I see a kid that cannot beat out an undrafted player.

And in no case, regardless of what you perceive as Parcells begrudging attitude toward this player, he would not put Clint Stoerner ahead of a more talented guy.

Let's pretend we are in Missouri.

Show me.

 

[Waffle]

The simplest way for me to answer this is to simply acknowledge that we completely disagree about coaches sometimes having it in for a player. In fact, sometimes it isn't even the coach, it is the owner. Would that happen in the NFL?

I don't know, ask Marcus Allen about Al Davis. That was purely a matter of Allen not having talent when he was rotting away on a Raiders sideline, wasn't it?

I DO believe that Parcells has a problem with Henson, and I don't think its all about talent either.

If it isn't all about talent,then what is it?

 

[MS17]

Not understanding clearly "what his role is" on the team. :

 

[rcaldw]

If it isn't all about talent,then what is it?

What was it with Marcus Allen?

 

[Waffle]

What was it with Marcus Allen?

With all due respect, who cares about Marcus Allen? I was asking about BP and this supposed "problem" he has with Henson? What is it????

It was one isolated incident that happened a decade ago, and we were dealing with AL DAVIS on that one...not Parcells.

Can you give me an incident where Parcells had it in for a player? I can't.

 

[rcaldw]

With all due respect, who cares about Marcus Allen? I was asking about BP and this supposed "problem" he has with Henson? What is it????

It was one isolated incident that happened a decade ago, and we were dealing with AL DAVIS on that one...not Parcells.

Can you give me an incident where Parcells had it in for a player? I can't.

With all due respect, I don't give a tator chip for Bill Parcells, I will be glad the day he is gone. I'm sitting here right now having to root for another team to lose so that my team can get into the playoffs. And if they do lose, I will get to watch another mid 30's to 40 year old QB's lead our team. That is thanks to the Bill Parcell's mindset. So if others want to think that Big Bill doesn't have favorites, go ahead, I think he does, and lets just leave it at that. I've stated my opinion, which effects nothing in real Cowboys land anyway, and in the mean time I'll just have to wait until Parcells retires to see another young QB at the helm. here is one guy hoping its after this season.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Bill does have his favorites. So did Jimmy Johnson and probably every other coach as well.

 

[Waffle]

With all due respect, I don't give a tator chip for Bill Parcells, I will be glad the day he is gone. I'm sitting here right now having to root for another team to lose so that my team can get into the playoffs. And if they do lose, I will get to watch another mid 30's to 40 year old QB's lead our team. That is thanks to the Bill Parcell's mindset. So if others want to think that Big Bill doesn't have favorites, go ahead, I think he does, and lets just leave it at that. I've stated my opinion, which effects nothing in real Cowboys land anyway, and in the mean time I'll just have to wait until Parcells retires to see another young QB at the helm. here is one guy hoping its after this season.

If you are going to complain about having to root for another team, you would have a stronger argument if you blamed Parcells for letting Hoffman go. Or how about a couple of last minute defensive collapses that led to losses?

I think it's clear you don't like Parcells and that's fine. But you failed to answer my question or the question from the other poster that wanted to know what exactly you've seen in Henson to think that having him at QB would have changed things?

 

[rcaldw]

If you are going to complain about having to root for another team, you would have a stronger argument if you blamed Parcells for letting Hoffman go. Or how about a couple of last minute defensive collapses that led to losses?

I think it's clear you don't like Parcells and that's fine. But you failed to answer my question or the question from the other poster that wanted to know what exactly you've seen in Henson to think that having him at QB would have changed things?

I have answered that question Waff. In the brief moments I've actually seen Henson on the field, I have liked what I saw of him. I DON'T think he would have changed our fortunes this year. I think we could have developed him these two years and at least if we were sitting outside the playoffs looking in, it would be with a young developing Qb and not another blast from Bill's past.

In terms of Hoffman, I have already posted here that whoever fired Hoffman should be fired himself. hmmmmm, I wonder who didn't want to retain him?

 

[Waffle]

I have answered that question Waff. In the brief moments I've actually seen Henson on the field, I have liked what I saw of him. I DON'T think he would have changed our fortunes this year. I think we could have developed him these two years and at least if we were sitting outside the playoffs looking in, it would be with a young developing Qb and not another blast from Bill's past.

In terms of Hoffman, I have already posted here that whoever fired Hoffman should be fired himself. hmmmmm, I wonder who didn't want to retain him?

I've personally liked what I've seen from Romo in the brief moments I've seen him on the field, but I'm not calling for him to be the starter simply because he's young.

Look, I was anti-Bledsoe when we signed him. But now, he is CLEARLY the better QB for our team right now. The guy is only 33, not 42 like Vinny.

Maybe Henson should try and get better and beat out Romo first. That would be a good start for him.

 

[rcaldw]

I've personally liked what I've seen from Romo in the brief moment's I've seen him on the field, but I'm not calling for him to be the starter simply because he's young.

Look, I was anti-Bledsoe when we signed him. But now, he is CLEARLY the better QB for our team right now. The guy is only 33, not 42 like Vinny.

Maybe Henson should try and get better and beat out Romo first. That would be a good start for him.

Your take requires me to believe that Romo is really the better quarterback, and that belief would have to be based on Bill Parcells infinite wisdom for the QB position. You will then tell me to look at this year's preseason where Romo outshined Henson, to which I will reply that they were requiring Henson, not Romo, to totally rebuild his throwing motion. By the way, probably a more conventional throwing motion, initially than Bledsoe has. So we will just go round and round on this.

1. I don't like Bill Parcells
2. I don't trust his judgment when it comes to how he has handeld our QB situation, any more than I trusted his judgment on Steve Hoffman, and I was right.
3. I don't think Tony Romo has the talent to be a starting NFL QB.
4. I think Drew Henson does

Any more discussion of it, on my part will be wasted finger energy (typing) , so I will close with this one. But I've enjoyed the debate. Thanks.

 

[TwoDeep3]

So pretty much, you cannot list any evidence which backs up your assertion that Henson has enough talent or that Parcells is purposely keeping him down.

And now you will decid3e anymore discussion would be wasted on your part.

If I had nothing, that might be the tactic I would use, as well.