In Case You Forgot Who This Team Once Was

Alexander

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Good post. People apparently forget only 1 team can win the Superbowl each year. So if all were equal it would take 32 years to reach a SB win for each team. Too may Cowboys fans still feel entitled just because we bucked the trends and won so much in the past it is our right to do so now as well. We at least have a viable QB when healthy so at least we have some hope of being competitive next year. I'll take that myself.

How exactly have the Cowboys bucked trends? Since the free agency era, teams that reached multiple Super Bowls prior to that and "bucked trends" like Pittsburgh and San Francisco got there again, Dallas has not even come close.

I don't think many people are lamenting the lack of SB appearances anyways. Yes, it is extremely hard to make a post season run and get to the game.

It is the lack of a sustained contender that is frustrating. In the last decade Dallas has exactly four playoff appearances and two wins. You can go back two decades and it does not get any better.

If you are a consistent contending team like New England, Pittsburgh, Green Bay etc. your chances of making that run are greater, but you have to get to the playoffs first and consistently at that. Otherwise you are waiting for one lucky year, which apparently was 2014 from the looks of things.
 

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How exactly have the Cowboys bucked trends? Since the free agency era, teams that reached multiple Super Bowls prior to that and "bucked trends" like Pittsburgh and San Francisco got there again, Dallas has not even come close.

I don't think many people are lamenting the lack of SB appearances anyways. Yes, it is extremely hard to make a post season run and get to the game.

It is the lack of a sustained contender that is frustrating. In the last decade Dallas has exactly four playoff appearances and two wins. You can go back two decades and it does not get any better.

If you are a consistent contending team like New England, Pittsburgh, Green Bay etc. your chances of making that run are greater, but you have to get to the playoffs first and consistently at that. Otherwise you are waiting for one lucky year, which apparently was 2014 from the looks of things.

Pretty much. Some fans seem to be happy with an occasional playoff win every few years. That's not contending. Not really.
 

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That isn't the current team. And you know this.

Crawford, Scandrick, Lee, Hitchens, Romo, Dez, TWill, Beasley, Fred, Martin, Free, Tyron, Witten, and Hanna were all main pieces that have returned.

They are joined by Zeke, Jones, DLaw, Gregory, Thornton, and other new guys.

It is only one year removed not 30 years ago. Nostalgia bores me.
 

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History is full of guys that deserved to have rings. Tarkenton, Marino and Jim Kelly just to name 3. I wish I could say it was in the cards for Romo and Witten but I just don't see it. There's just too many distractions with this team and too many strong teams above them. My biggest fear right now is that the Steelers are going to win another 1 or 2 SB's in the near future. They have the players and coaching to do it. I'd hate to be 3 behind them.....


I would love to see romo and witten get rings too but romo can only blame himself sometimes as the reason why this team has not made a championship game in the ten years he has been the starter. now I know it is a team game but some of his mistakes through the years have contributed to this team not making the playoffs and getting that chance to win another championship or even competing in one. now I am a big romo fan so I am not blaming romo as the only reason why this team cannot get to another superbowl. I think that it is going to be until the next generation of core players to win.
 

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That however is the league.

Is Cincy contending? Minnesota?

Yep. It's the Cincinnati and Minnesota argument again. You old fans were spoiled....yea I heard that before. I'll just quote my signature " Since 1996 only 3 NFC teams have failed to make at least the championship game. Dallas, Detroit and Washington." I'm not even talking SB's. I just want to be in a meaningful game that leads to something. Being mediocre and then having one good season every 7 years isn't enough for me. I don't even know if I would put us up with Cincinnati. Sure we have 2 more playoff wins than they have since Marvin Lewis has been their coach but they play in a much tougher division or at least have been for the most part. They've also been to the playoffs for 5 straight years. I can't believe I'm debating between Dallas and Cincinnati.....Forget it . We should be better than them. Minnesota doesn't contend because they have no franchise QB. We do.
 
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Yep. It's the Cincinnati and Minnesota argument again. You old fans were spoiled....yea I heard that before. I'll just quote my signature " Since 1996 only 3 NFC teams have failed to make at least the championship game. Dallas, Detroit and Washington." I'm not even talking SB's. I just want to be in a meaningful game that leads to something. Being mediocre and then having one good season every 7 years isn't enough for me. I don't even know if I would put us up with Cincinnati. Sure we have 2 more playoff wins than they have since Marvin Lewis has been their coach but they play in a much tougher division or at least have been for the most part. They've also been to the playoffs for 5 straight years. I can't believe I'm debating between Dallas and Cincinnati.....Forget it . We should be better than them.

That was my point. Is Cincy a contender each year or are they not? They haven't won a playoff game since 91 or whatever but does that matter? Does it stop them in any way from being good this year?

I am not talking in anyway about Dallas past. I'm just asking a question.

and spare me the you old fans are spoiled. I became a big time fan as a kid in 83. From 83 to 91 they made the playoffs I think two times and lost both games......since 96 they have two playoff ins. I don't feel spoiled and I don't think a season that ends without a championship is a failed season essentially. I think I understand the league and how it works.

We have romo and a great offense. We have a shot.
 

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That was my point. Is Cincy a contender each year or are they not? They haven't won a playoff game since 91 or whatever but does that matter? Does it stop them in any way from being good this year?

I am not talking in anyway about Dallas past. I'm just asking a question.

and spare me the you old fans are spoiled. I became a big time fan as a kid in 83. From 83 to 91 they made the playoffs I think two times and lost both games......since 96 they have two playoff ins. I don't feel spoiled and I don't think a season that ends without a championship is a failed season essentially. I think I understand the league and how it works.

We have romo and a great offense. We have a shot.

Well they contend in a much tougher division and we contend in a mediocre division. Doesn't mean either one are going anywhere. I was pulling real hard for the Bengals last year in the playoffs against Pittsburgh and they just imploded. I never saw anything like it. I think they're cursed. Like I said 2 playoff wins and getting to a championship game would be something. 2 playoff wins in 20 years isn't much. We don't ever build off them. Romo's really been wasted here. When you have a franchise QB like him, you should do better.
 

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This is the reason they play. This is the goal from the first moment of the off-season.
Preaching to the choir. That Seattle game was a huge road win over a championship-quality opponent. In other words, it was just the kind of win that you must be able to pull off if you want to win a Super Bowl. The importance of that win had nothing to do with stats.

Stats help you understand the team's strengths and weaknesses, if you're interested in that kinda thing.
 

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Preaching to the choir. That Seattle game was a huge road win over a championship-quality opponent. In other words, it was just the kind of win that you must be able to pull off if you want to win a Super Bowl. The importance of that win had nothing to do with stats.

Stats help you understand the team's strengths and weaknesses, if you're interested in that kinda thing.

Did it bring a trophy?

Nope. It was one win that season. But not THE win.
 

Alexander

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Did it bring a trophy?

Nope. It was one win that season. But not THE win.

It was a lot like the wins in previous years against the unbeaten Colts and Saints when all was said and done.
 

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Meh.

I try not to live in the past.

And now that I'm nearing 40 I don't take this as seriously as I once did.

Now maybe i will take it more seriously and long for the good ol days once I get closer to 50.

But for now it's loose women and fast cars
 

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Too may Cowboys fans still feel entitled just because we bucked the trends and won so much in the past it is our right to do so now as well.

Wow, talk about the football fan equivalent of the
Stockholm Syndrome. We were good, primarily because our team was well managed and coached, unlike the present. "bucking the trend" - implies that our success was nothing more than a statistical outlier.
 
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They really should have just put all the Super Bowls up and allowed fans to vote on other games. Most of them probably are up, but the Steelers had to leave 3 off at least, and the 49ers and Cowboys had to leave 2 off. Would have been nice to see a few of our non Super Bowl classic games (can we combine our back to back schalackings (sp?) of the Eagles from a few years ago... not exactly classic... but fun lol) but whatever.
 

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Sad. I watched the entire parade on YouTube the other day.

I'll have to watch that.That is one thing that I've never seen, a Cowboy parade. If you were a Cowboy fan and lived outside of Dallas the networks didn't show parades back then.
 

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Pretty much. Some fans seem to be happy with an occasional playoff win every few years. That's not contending. Not really.

I don't think I've ever seen a Cowboys fan suggest that. I've seen a ton conclude that's what's going on when posters don't join in a good pity party.

For the most part, different fans will attribute the playoff or season ending losses to different factors. Some think it's scheme. Some think it's coaching. Some think it's a lack of talent, or the influence of Jerry Jones. Just because someone might disagree with your assessment of where the problems are, it doesn't mean they don't want to win more football games.

No matter how many times I point the finger at defensive talent or the meddling of Jerry Jones, for example, I still get people trotting out that they think they just have higher standards than I do, which is hilarious. What they really mean is they want to change something that I don't think is a significant problem, and it's easier crying standards than it is to make a case for real change on the topic.
 
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