In the 4-3 is Carp our Urlacher?

[Cliff]

don't remember exactly which year, just remember reading that he was getting engulfed by Olinemen when his tackles suffered injuries

'03 - AFTER chi lost ted washington and keith trailor - two HUGS bodies on the d-line

 

[Cliff]

141 tackles all in space...right. His responsibility isnt to rush the passer, how hard is that to understand?

it's not his responsibility because he CAN'T do it.... sure, the occasional stunt, his speed will get him through - otherwise, NOTHING GOING

 

[firehawk350]

no he's not.... he's the most hyped/marketed....

Ahem... Peyton Manning...

 

[firehawk350]

don't remember exactly which year, just remember reading that he was getting engulfed by Olinemen when his tackles suffered injuries

So does any LBer in the league... Ray wasn't that great when he didn't have two great tackles in front of him.

 

[Cochese]

'03 - AFTER chi lost ted washington and keith trailor - two HUGS bodies on the d-line

116 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 4 passes defended, pro bowl birth. Hardly a down year.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So does any LBer in the league... Ray wasn't that great when he didn't have two great tackles in front of him.

no shhh Sherlock, try following the thread to see why I stated it in this case Norman

 

[Cliff]

116 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 4 passes defended, pro bowl birth. Hardly a down year.

not sayin' he's NOT a player.... just sayin' there's a significant amount of hype involved.... what's funny, this town (chicago) was quite ready to send him packin' just a short four seasons ago.... funny, lovie comes to town, realizes b.u.'s limitations and taa-daa, b.u. becomes the nfl's poster boy

 

[Cochese]

it's not his responsibility because he CAN'T do it.... sure, the occasional stunt, his speed will get him through - otherwise, NOTHING GOING

Or it could be guys like Mark Anderson, Alex Brown and Adewayle Ogunleye get to the QB so guys like Urlacher dont have to and only has to do his job covering the deep zones. All three of those guys I mentioned were in the top 15 in sacks in the NFC.

 

[Cochese]

not sayin' he's NOT a player.... just sayin' there's a significant amount of hype involved.... what's funny, this town (chicago) was quite ready to send him packin' just a short four seasons ago.... funny, lovie comes to town, realizes b.u.'s limitations and taa-daa, b.u. becomes the nfl's poster boy

I doubt you even live in or are associated with Chicago, people here love him and always have.

 

[Cliff]

Or it could be guys like Mark Anderson, Alex Brown and Adewayle Ogunleye get to the QB so guys like Urlacher dont have to and only has to do his job covering the deep zones. All three of those guys I mentioned were in the top 15 in sacks in the NFC.

dude!.... b.u. doesn't have rush responsibility BECAUSE HE CAN'T PRODUCE IN THAT ARENA OF THE GAME!!!!.... check out bear "d" stats the last 4/5 games of reg season AFTER tommie harris (HEART AND SOUL of the bear "D") went down - TERRIBLE.... funny, if b.u. was such the stud, that fall off NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.... they never would have missed a beat.... but they did.... this town's biggest worry is the "d," NOT rex grossman

 

[Cochese]

not sayin' he's NOT a player.... just sayin' there's a significant amount of hype involved.... what's funny, this town (chicago) was quite ready to send him packin' just a short four seasons ago.... funny, lovie comes to town, realizes b.u.'s limitations and taa-daa, b.u. becomes the nfl's poster boy

You talking about the 2002 season? 151 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 1 int, 4 passes defended, 2 fumbles forced, 2 recovered? Yea, they were sick of him in Chicago after THAT disgraceful season.

 

[Cliff]

I doubt you even live in or are associated with Chicago, people here love him and always have.

dude! - bridgeport - 34th and normal....

 

[Cliff]

You talking about the 2002 season? 151 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 1 int, 4 passes defended, 2 fumbles forced, 2 recovered? Yea, they were sick of him in Chicago after THAT disgraceful season.

what are you, 13?

 

[Cochese]

dude!.... b.u. doesn't have rush responsibility BECAUSE HE CAN'T PRODUCE IN THAT ARENA OF THE GAME!!!!.... check out bear "d" stats the last 4/5 games of reg season AFTER tommie harris (HEART AND SOUL of the bear "D") went down - TERRIBLE.... funny, if b.u. was such the stud, that fall off NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.... they never would have missed a beat.... but they did.... this town's biggest worry is the "d," NOT rex grossman

Read up on the tampa 2, his job is NOT to get after the passer, for the last time! Its not like he cant produce in it when he is forced to, 6 sacks last year ring a bell? Its so hard to discuss this matter with someone who has no idea what they are talking about. Learn how to punctuate while you are at it.

 

[Cochese]

what are you, 13?

You said they were sick of him before Lovie came, that was the season before Lovie came, no one was sick of him then or ever.

 

[Cliff]

Read up on the tampa 2, his job is NOT to get after the passer, for the last time! Its not like he cant produce in it when he is forced to, 6.5 sacks last year ring a bell? Its so hard to discuss this matter with someone who has no idea what they are talking about. Learn how to punctuate while you are at it.

you're the only mope in this God-forsaken town who believes b.u. CAN rush the passer/play at the line.... funny ****e!.... you make me giggle.... go get your shinebox:laugh2:

 

[Cliff]

You said they were sick of him before Lovie came, that was the season before Lovie came, no one was sick of him then or ever.

never leave the basement, eh, tiger?

 

[Cochese]

never leave the basement, eh, tiger?

Stick to the football discussion, even though you aren't even good at that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

what are you, 13?

never leave the basement, eh, tiger?

lamest digs...ever

and JustSayNotoTO, you better stop saying no to things, cuz the 1st thing you did say no to, came true, and we all definitely don't want Bob Stoops coming into town

 

[Cochese]

not sayin' he's NOT a player.... just sayin' there's a significant amount of hype involved.... what's funny, this town (chicago) was quite ready to send him packin' just a short four seasons ago.... funny, lovie comes to town, realizes b.u.'s limitations and taa-daa, b.u. becomes the nfl's poster boy

Its funny you mention Lovie making Urlacher a good player, when in the seasons before Lovie came to Chicago, he had 21 sacks and 507 tackles in four years. Yea, he cant play near the LOS..:bang2: