Insane: Ware in Ring of Honor not Jimmy

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If the time ever comes I hope Jimmy says, “it’s a great honor, but no thank you.“
I hope he does and this fan will declare well rooty toot toot.

Jerry was for overcoming social stigmas with players and supporting their welfare. YOU ought to be giving more of his actually earned respect and not for a whipping boy for someone else's lack of applied integrities. He worked, negotiated, and provided what was necessary for the team successes.

Jimmy already has two Lombardis that he received with NO other owner. That he was provided the opportunity to be a Hall of Famer that he did not pay for beyond what opportunities he was provided, is a fact as well.

You thinking that he was actually the best Head Coach in the entire history of the NFL? Or even shown poor defining treatment? Crap, I don't.

You have ridden the whipping boy of Jerry Jones for long enough and claiming the high ground that are being claimed as one's own now as well!

Rewards and acclaim are given, not demanded.
 
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Tex Schramm, Gil Brandt and Tom Landry; all deserving non coaches who are in the ring.
There one goes, Jimmy deserve equal achievements respect...respect, but not above the foundations to the franchise that provided a strong beginning as well.
 

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I agree...the ROH to me no longer is for the worthy and deserving, but for friends of Jerry. If Jerry has to like you to be in it...then it is not a ROH for the fans...but a FOJ...(friends of Jerry).. So Bullcrap......:thumbdown: who cares anymore.
exactly, the roh is another toy for jerry to play with, and if he doesnt like you , your not getting in.
He drafted ware, liked ware, even though ware left and won his ring in denver.
I do find it odd he picked ware, and not romo.

To me the ring is more about the fans and what they would like to see as far as who goes in, but this makes it clear
jerry does not care about us fans or what we think. Us fans should just shut up and accept what jerry gives us, which isnt much lol.

Jerry does not care what we think, just shut up and buy tickets and merch, go to the games and give jerry more $.
To jerry cowboy fans = Peasants !

I think many fans (not jumbo lol) want to see jimmy in the ring with a big ceremony for us to enjoy, while I think jimmy is no longer interested,
and knows/ knew it wont happen. My point is the fans want it more than Jimmy.

I decided 2 years ago that from what jerry had said it meant he wasnt ever putting jimmy in, so I gave up on that.

Jerry is such a foul person, it has taken me from a diehard fan to the point of I now just find the team interesting, and hope they never get
to another SB as long as jerry is alive. He doesnt deserve to ever hold up another trophy.

And jerry is like the mean ol english king in braveheart lol.
 

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The funny thing is if we somehow stumble to a SB Jerry thinks he's going to get the credit after 30 years. McCarthy and Quinn are going to get the credit for leading this team to a SB in spite of Jerry and his idiot son. Now that would be impressive.
 

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Jerry is going to put Ware into the Ring of Honor but not Jimmy Johnson. What an idiot !

I do not blame Dak or the players. Jerry Jones is the ONLY constant for the 30 years of not even getting to a NFC Conference game. Not winning it the damn game, just getting there. Not Jerry wants to put Ware into the ROH and winning a ring with the Broncos, while Jimmy wins 2 titles with Dallas. The bible clearly states: Pride goes before destruction. Jerry's PRIDE has killed the Cowboys--ON THE FIELD
Jerry states ANY coach could have won the Superbowl with the players Jerry put on the field. Sorry idiot Jerry, you proved, for the past 30 years, you can not put a team together to even get to a NFC Conference game.
Right now, Jimmy is getting just what he went out of his way to earn...oh, he'll eventually get there, but as deserved. That is also part of a true American pride element as well as hero worship.
 

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The funny thing is if we somehow stumble to a SB Jerry thinks he's going to get the credit after 30 years. McCarthy and Quinn are going to get the credit for leading this team to a SB in spite of Jerry and his idiot son. Now that would be impressive.
Jerry could give a damn, he is committed to the pride of trying to always win.
 

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When I see the argument made above using analogies comparing an ex wife cheating to the JJ’s split up it illustrates the type of egos and other narcissistic behaviors we’re dealing with in this forum.

I’d be curious to hear those 3 children’s take on this. Perhaps mom wasn’t getting what she needed at home . From what I’ve seen over the years there probably wasn’t much room for her input

In the end the marriage was probably further gone than dad ever realized and being so consumed with himself and his career, etc didn’t even see her needs not being met until it was too late seeking her needs elsewhere.

I’d never want to condone infidelity but there are usually signs that lead up to such behavior. And if this was the case of simply evil or mischievous behavior on her part then the judgement of selection initially of such partner needs to be called into question as well. Not only initially but not seeing it unfold until was too late for reconciliation. I don’t want to launder other fans dirty clothes but when you present in such fashion makes it fair game .

It always takes two to tango. If they have three wonderful children then they both did something right. And with the JJ’s together they did much right and there is blame on both sides for their breakup . We knew Jimmy wasn’t a long term answer but he probably would have stayed long enough to try to win a couple more rings with the team they’d assembled.

The way it ended has fueled our owners ambition to prove he can build another championship team . I’m not sure if this is how Jethro had always intended to run Cowboys Football. Initially I thought he would do anything within his power to win and I credit him for bringing Jimmy on. .

But since he hasn’t done everything within his power to win continuing even at age 80 to remain as GM. If he’s willing to hire HC’s like Parcells and McCarthy then he should be willing to hire GM’s and VP’s with similar experience and credibility .

He could have been a great owner if he didn’t have the compassion to use his ownership as his ticket to be a celebrity football guy. He was on his way early in his career to set marks that may have not been broken. But his ego got in the way and we’ll never get that back.
 

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When I see the argument made above using analogies comparing an ex wife cheating to the JJ’s split up it illustrates the type of egos and other narcissistic behaviors we’re dealing with in this forum.

I’d be curious to hear those 3 children’s take on this. Perhaps mom wasn’t getting what she needed at home . From what I’ve seen over the years there probably wasn’t much room for her input

In the end the marriage was probably further gone than dad ever realized and being so consumed with himself and his career, etc didn’t even see her needs not being met until it was too late seeking her needs elsewhere.

I’d never want to condone infidelity but there are usually signs that lead up to such behavior. And if this was the case of simply evil or mischievous behavior on her part then the judgement of selection initially of such partner needs to be called into question as well. Not only initially but not seeing it unfold until was too late for reconciliation. I don’t want to launder other fans dirty clothes but when you present in such fashion makes it fair game .

It always takes two to tango. If they have three wonderful children then they both did something right. And with the JJ’s together they did much right and there is blame on both sides for their breakup . We knew Jimmy wasn’t a long term answer but he probably would have stayed long enough to try to win a couple more rings with the team they’d assembled.

The way it ended has fueled our owners ambition to prove he can build another championship team . I’m not sure if this is how Jethro had always intended to run Cowboys Football. Initially I thought he would do anything within his power to win and I credit him for bringing Jimmy on. .

But since he hasn’t done everything within his power to win continuing even at age 80 to remain as GM. If he’s willing to hire HC’s like Parcells and McCarthy then he should be willing to hire GM’s and VP’s with similar experience and credibility .

He could have been a great owner if he didn’t have the compassion to use his ownership as his ticket to be a celebrity football guy. He was on his way early in his career to set marks that may have not been broken. But his ego got in the way and we’ll never get that back.
A GM allows for a huge transfer of millions of dollars gone if a rebuild has to occur as initiated by someone outside of the franchise. An owner just doesn't like a bull in the china cabinet such as that in a coorporate owned enterprise...anywhere. Billions of dollars are that lose now? Not hardly...this is the real world along with the sporting basis. Ownership and a desire for a winning team are nurtured by today's ownership, and applies to Jerry now as well. He is a good owner and has been behind a very long period of analysis, research, player evaluations, and internal communications.

Jerry is top shelf on business integrated actions and spontaneous communications and analysis at a top corporate level. They are ontop of their business and we all shall see how that translates with the current coaches and staff...I'm looking forward to watching these applications.

I could care less if Jimmy or even fans want to hear a big attaboy instead of rooting for this team. This is football and not a routine of hero worship instead!
 

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Until we begin to see 30 other NFL teams follow the model Jethro has set for the Cowboys this era with his hands on “ socks to jocks” management style then we’ll know it’s acceptable .
 

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Until we begin to see 30 other NFL teams follow the model Jethro has set for the Cowboys this era with his hands on “ socks to jocks” management style then we’ll know it’s acceptable .
Responsibility starts at the top...Jerry accepts that fact.

Style.......smile. This is football and aggressive. Under the Joneses, they don't try to water the sport down and always try to promote stars as they should.
 

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Responsibility starts at the top...Jerry accepts that fact.

Style.......smile. This is football and aggressive. Under the Joneses, they don't try to water the sport down and always try to promote stars as they should.
Like I said when we see 30 other owners begin to manage their billion dollar entities as such then we’ll know it’s the wave of the future .

I’d suggest wearing both hats as GM and owner is a direct conflict of interest . An owner should be promoting their product . A GM should be taking a lower profile not exposing his hand .
 

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Like I said when we see 30 other owners begin to manage their billion dollar entities as such then we’ll know it’s the wave of the future .

I’d suggest wearing both hats as GM and owner is a direct conflict of interest . An owner should be promoting their product . A GM should be taking a lower profile not exposing his hand .
That part is not our call...and I seriously doubt prior to a sale of the team, would immediately be ignored if suggested to them.
 

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The Hall of Fame is the only thing that matters. Franchise honors are meaningless now. Jerry eroded them away to the point where it’s a joke to even mention the past and super bowls. That **** is soo far back in the past now.
 

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Honestly jerry should turn this over to a legion of fans to vote
 

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That part is not our call...and I seriously doubt prior to a sale of the team, would immediately be ignored if suggested to them.
Understood but we can continue to call it out. And we can hold their feet to the fire regardless if it falls on deaf ears. There’s always the possibility I could reach another fan.

If nothing else I sleep better at night knowing I’ve made an attempt to bring attention to what I believe is the major contributing factor for our beloved franchise lack of success this era despite how exhausting the subject matter is.
 

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I kind of think Stephen is supposed to put both Jimmy and Jerry in together after Jerry is gone. If Jimmy is alive to see it then fine but he isn't going in before Jerry. Jerry sort of eluded to putting Switzer in a few weeks back, so you know if Switzer was in and not Jimmy that would be insane. But I don't have an issue with HOF players going in before coaches.
 
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