Interesting Elliott stat, yards after contact

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Will Zeke Elliott match or better Emmitt Smith?

There is a lot of football to be played before this conversation starts having serious meaning, but let’s just put a pin in it for now. Zeke will break DeMarco Murray franchise rushing record and it may happen sooner versus later. When Elliott is running wild over the league, winning the MVP, and hoisting that Lombardi trophy over his head, it won’t take too long before he starts drawing comparisons to a Cowboys legend. And when fans start seeing this and jump on the Zeke train make sure you give me a little wave - I’ll be the guy sitting in the front.

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We grabbed a gem in the 4th round that offsets the cap concerns of drafting a RB 4th overall.

I wanted Zeke to wear the star since he was a sophomore... totally ecstatic that he's a Cowboy.

Packaged with Dak, the two young Superstars have the fan base excited and hopeful to experience
the ecstacy of being a dynasty... like the 90s. Fingers crossed.

Somehow Jalen Ramsey, talented as he is, doesn't have that type of spark for the team and fans.
Translation- Zeke will be worth every penny.
 

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Now Zeke is Emmitt Smith.

He may be more talented. He also needs to stay healthy for over a decade. Which if you're a betting man...you'd argue against relative to the risk of injury at corner.

Zeke also doesn't appear to be the hardest worker. OTA reports from earlier in the offseason mentioned he had to work himself into shape. He concerns me.
I haven't seen any saying he was out of shape. Last year but not this year.
 

Toruk_Makto

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We grabbed a gem in the 4th round that offsets the cap concerns of drafting a RB 4th overall.

I wanted Zeke to wear the star since he was a sophomore... totally ecstatic that he's a Cowboy.

Packaged with Dak, the two young Superstars have the fan base excited and hopeful to experience
the ecstacy of being a dynasty... like the 90s. Fingers crossed.

Somehow Jalen Ramsey, talented as he is, doesn't have that type of spark for the team and fans.
Translation- Zeke will be worth every penny.
Getting Dak doesn't mean we didn't make a suboptimal choice in the 1st round. Mutually exclusive decisions especially since we couldn't know who would be avaialble in the 4th yet alone that Dak would be as good as he is.
 

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Getting Dak doesn't mean we didn't make a suboptimal choice in the 1st round. Mutually exclusive decisions especially since we couldn't know who would be avaialble in the 4th yet alone that Dak would be as good as he is.

So.

As it turned out. Your crisis has been averted.

Nobody knew Ramsey would prove worthy of the 4th or 5th pick either.
Your logic can easily work against you. Hey, I credit you with maintaining your stance.
You've been consistent in your opinion. But you're just wrong. It's okay.
 

Toruk_Makto

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So.

As it turned out. Your crisis has been averted.

Nobody knew Ramsey would prove worthy of the 4th or 5th pick either.
Your logic can easily work against you. Hey, I credit you with maintaining your stance.
You've been consistent in your opinion. But you're just wrong. It's okay.
I love now... The argument in using too many resources (and suboptimaly) on a running back is that 3 rounds later we found a qb. Nevermind when we took the rb we expected to have a very expensive qb playing.

The logical pretzel people build is truly astounding...
 

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There's no question but what Emmitt sets the standard for what running backs do now and probably well into the future. He demonstrated as much with talent, desire, guts and an uncanny ability to create yardage when none seemed to exist. Elliott is displaying many of those unique talents that made Emmitt so successful, although maintaining the special kind of durability that Emmitt had will be an accomplishment in itself. Godspeed in fulfilling that requirement, Zeke!:thumbup:
 

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I love now... The argument in using too many resources (and suboptimaly) on a running back is that 3 rounds later we found a qb. Nevermind when we took the rb we expected to have a very expensive qb playing.

The logical pretzel people build is truly astounding...

Just imagine we took Dak in the 1st round and Zeke in the 4th round and get over it already.

We procured two players who each have legit potential to be great, and they play important positions in our offense. We are in a great spot.

Yet you insist on rolling through here with your condescending nonsense, sounding butt-hurt and looking for reasons to dog Zeke.

Super lame.
 

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Curious on how many yards after contact came from the two Bills games and the Pitt game for Ajayi?
He had a lot of long runs those games and I'm curious if they count a halfassed arm tackle as contact.
Not knocking Jay, just curious.
 

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Just imagine we took Dak in the 1st round and Zeke in the 4th round and get over it already.
Pretend something didn't happen that did to try and justify poor decision making?

That's... Not smart.
 

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I love now... The argument in using too many resources (and suboptimaly) on a running back is that 3 rounds later we found a qb. Nevermind when we took the rb we expected to have a very expensive qb playing.

The logical pretzel people build is truly astounding...

We took Zeke and he won the rushing title as a rookie...a year later and you are still crying over your conceived spilt milk.
Time to get over it.
Too bad we also got a promising DT in Collins in the third, pretty good QB in the 4th and what appears to be a good CB in 6th round.
But...noooo still whining about not getting Ramsey and you want to talk about logical pretzels? Get over yourself.
 

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Yes I think we should have taken Ramsey. BTW he played corner last year and shadowed the other team's number 1s.

But thanks for playing.

I like how you didn't address the actual cost implications of taking Zeke and paying through the nose for RB production that is unnecessary across the league and most certainly in our offense.

Ramsey has proven to be every bit as worthy of being a number 4th overall pick as Zeke has to this point. The difference is...Ramsey plays a more important position and his rookie contract represents a bargain for his position. Zeke plays a less important position and his rookie contract represents a premium for his position.

Guys this isn't rocket science.

Can't believe we are still having this debate. Scoring more points than the other team wins games. Zeke scores points....at a much greater rate than any other RB we had or could've drafted last year which once again equaled more wins. Dieon Sanders himself playing CB for us last year would not have made as big a difference for us as far as points scored and games won. Could we have used Ramsey, sure but was he even in the ballpark of a difference maker for our team that Zeke was? Not even close. Would you also argue that Emmitt was a wasted pick? I mean he was also a first round pick.
Zeke plays a "less important" position for most of the league but a very important position for our team. In fact, his skill set opens up more options for the offense and his home run hitting speed changes entire games and game planning.
The other piece is that taking Ramsey at four was taking the best DB in a horrible DB draft. Ramsey may or may not have graded out in round one this draft.
How many INTs for Ramsey his entire life? How many TDs for Zeke this one season?
If Zeke had been a bust the argument may have some merit but the dude just had the second best rookie RB season in NFL history. We get it you love Ramsey. But it's over, we made the right choice and we will remind you of that when Zeke carries us to a SB while Ramsey ekes out 2-3 INTs a year.
BTW, we got Brown in the sixth round and his ability versus Ramsey's... okay Ramsey may be better but 4th pick versus sixth round....we got better value at the position there too.
 

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We took Zeke and he won the rushing title as a rookie...a year later and you are still crying over your conceived spilt milk.
Time to get over it.
Too bad we also got a promising DT in Collins in the third, pretty good QB in the 4th and what appears to be a good CB in 6th round.
But...noooo still whining about not getting Ramsey and you want to talk about logical pretzels? Get over yourself.
The thread was about Zeke and specifically mentioned two other rbs. I simply made a post comparing their relative costs and I was attacked. I don't make the Zeke threads but when I see one and have something to add I will. Zeke is a great player but he was suboptimaly acquired. This is irrefutable.

If you can't attack the message attack the messenger?
 

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Of the DBs that went in round one this year, where does he rack and stack?
Without the benefit of a year of NFL tape.... does someone take him over Hooker or Adams? Humphrey? Ramsey sure didn't have any stats coming out. Maybe over Adoree? I could see him in the mid or late or not at all. He sure isn't the fifth pick.
 

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For this team the way it is set up Zeke made sense. More than Ramsey. A top D back makes little difference if you do not have the pass rush. A top RB can do wonders with a top OL and can do nothing with a bad O line.
Your so called logic is deeply flawed.
 

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Of the DBs that went in round one this year, where does he rack and stack?
Without the benefit of a year of NFL tape.... does someone take him over Hooker or Adams? Humphrey? Ramsey sure didn't have any stats coming out. Maybe over Adoree? I could see him in the mid or late or not at all. He sure isn't the fifth pick.
Just one scout's opinion but in the breakout thread referencing Brown.... You should read what they wrote about Ramsey.
 
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