interesting emmitt smith vs. reggie bush comparison

[ABQCOWBOY]

Upper body strength doesn't mean much for a running back.

I thought you were implying that he ran with strength, which I haven't seen him do, and which his YAC suggests he doesn't do.

I don't know. I never played the position at any level higher then HS but I do know that it sure helped to be able to get a hand out and stiff arm a guy coming at you from an angle. I think it's important but I do agree with you, it's not the end all, be all. If I was faster, maybe I wouldn't have needed it as much, who knows? Be it as it may, Bush doesn't exhibit the over all lower body strength required to be an every down back in the NFL. Everything that he does is done off speed and ellusiveness, which is fine, but you'll never be a great RB if you can't run through tackles or get the extra yards needed after contact.

Bush is a fine player but he's a product of the Press more then then anything at this point. At least, that is my opinion. There have been other players with his kind of quicks and speed. There have been other players that could catch the football like he can. He's unique because young people haven't seen a player like him but for people who have seen a bit more football, I think it's safe to say that he is uncommen in his ability but certainly not unique IMO.

 

[theogt]

Out of the 67 running backs who had at least 38 carries last season, Reggie Bush had the lowest average Yards After Contact, according to STATS -- 1.53.

That may be true, but his outliers really seem to stick in people's minds. That's the typical "home-run hitter" style for you.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You guys are missing the point when it comes to Reggie Bush.

Hes not there to be a Rusher hes there to make big plays and thats what he does.

His running got better and better as the season went on as well and I believe he'll be even more complete down the road.

Reggie Bush is a pure Phenom.

I think it is you who is missing the point. There have been other players in the NFL who have done simular things. He's a great player in todays game, for a young player, but he's not unheard of.

 

[joseephuss]

You guys are missing the point when it comes to Reggie Bush.

Hes not there to be a Rusher hes there to make big plays and thats what he does.

His running got better and better as the season went on as well and I believe he'll be even more complete down the road.

Reggie Bush is a pure Phenom.

He may be a future phenom. He did some very good things and had some good moments. All in all he did not live up to the hype coming in. Of course that is hard to do because he was hyped up more than any player I have seen in a while.

Bush provied more total all purpose yards Emmitt's did his rookie season, but the impact is not the same as Emmitt's. Bush played a lesser role to several players on the Saints. Drew Brees brought quite a bit to the QB position. A healthy Deuce McCallister returned from injury and shouldered much of the running load. When healthy Joe Horn was his regular steady self and Coston and Henderson emerged as young threats. Bush was a piece of the puzzle.

Emmitt was the one who really got the team going his rookie year. Sure Irvin was good and Aikman was coming around, but it was Emmitt who ignited the offense.

 

[CATCH17]

I think it is you who is missing the point. There have been other players in the NFL who have done simular things. He's a great player in todays game, for a young player, but he's not unheard of.

Im saying the way he does it is unheard of.

As a Rookie he is already showing signs of Greatness.

The sky is the limit for Bush because unlike those other guys he really can play the WR position.

He wouldve been a 1st round pick at that position.

Bush is on another level.

Your judging him as a runningback and im judging him as a all around football player.

 

[joseephuss]

Im saying the way he does it is unheard of.

As a Rookie he is already showing signs of Greatness.

The sky is the limit for Bush because unlike those other guys he really can play the WR position.

He wouldve been a 1st round pick at that position.

Bush is on another level.

Your judging him as a runningback and im judging him as a all around football player.

I disagree. He would not be drafted in the 1st round as just a receiver. He is a good receiving threat out of the back field or spread out and mismatched going against a linebacker, but that is not the same as going up against a cornerback every down. They said the same things about Marshall Faulk. Herschel Walker also put up great receving numbers his first year in the league, but that did not make him a wide receiver.

He has to improve his running to be a truly all around football player. He is valuable to the Saints with what he currently does. Maybe he will improve other areas of his game to remain valuable.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Im saying the way he does it is unheard of.

As a Rookie he is already showing signs of Greatness.

The sky is the limit for Bush because unlike those other guys he really can play the WR position.

He wouldve been a 1st round pick at that position.

Bush is on another level.

Your judging him as a runningback and im judging him as a all around football player.

Well, again, your wrong. To me, he is not a RB. I'm judging him as a Wing Back, if you will, which is really what he plays. He is not unheard of. He is not unique. He is a good player but there have been others. He may turn out to be like nothing any of us have ever seen but I doubt it.

 

[CATCH17]

I disagree. He would not be drafted in the 1st round as just a receiver. He is a good receiving threat out of the back field or spread out and mismatched going against a linebacker, but that is not the same as going up against a cornerback every down. They said the same things about Marshall Faulk. Herschel Walker also put up great receving numbers his first year in the league, but that did not make him a wide receiver.

He has to improve his running to be a truly all around football player. He is valuable to the Saints with what he currently does. Maybe he will improve other areas of his game to remain valuable.

Thats not what NFL GM's were saying. They were saying he would go in the 10-20 range as a receiver.

 

[AdamJT13]

The sky is the limit for Bush because unlike those other guys he really can play the WR position.

Maybe he could, but his average catch this season came 0.24 yards downfield, so he wasn't catching many passes on downfield patterns. And he never caught one at least 20 yards downfield.

He also finished seventh in the NFL in dropped pases.

 

[citysaint]

Actually I think Deuce is more comparable to Emmit than Reggie. Emmit wasn't a speedy or shifty guy. I remember him being one of the best tackle breaking running backs ever. He was more of a pound it out guy than a speedster.

 

[Rampage]

#1 reggie is soft. 2 emmitt was a rb. reggie is a decoy/wr playing rb

 

[romo4pres]

one thing u guys seem to miss is what reggie brings to his offense. Reggie is a part of what everyone else manages to do as well. Whenever he is on the field teams have to account for him. The maurice jones drew comparison is way unfair because theres no way teams gameplanned for drew the same way they gameplanned for reggie in his rookie year. I think more teams gameplan centered on bush this year than maybe any rookie ive ever seen.

 

[rubrink]

You want a complete back, how about Maurice Jones Drew? He had similar rush attempts to Bush, only he rushed for almost 400 more yards, and about 2 yards per carry more. He had about half the receptions, but had a full yard per reception higher than Bush. And he was fantastic on kick returns. And scored twice as many TDs as Reggie.

I'm just not understanding the love.

Agree wholeheartedly

Jones-Drew had a better season than Reggie, but noone is even talking about him. Reggie just had all the media love.

Not saying he wasn't great, but the media's in love with the guy. Maybe I'll just never like him because of the interview I heard saying "I dont think the NFL is too fast for Reggie Bush, I think Reggie is too fast for the NFL." Still havent gotten over that.

I don't think he'll ever be the complete package that LT is. LT is one of the best backs I've ever seen, top to bottom.

 

[Timbo2st]

Can we see a clip of him getting Jacked Up!

Anyone?

 

[Biggems]

Bush may have tons of natural ability and talent....but he isn't the smartest player out there...

against UT....he tries a lateral after getting deep inside UT territory and it becomes a turnover...had he simply accepted the tackle, USC gets the ball with a first at like the UT 20 or 15. They probably would have scored at least a FG on that drive. He cost his team a golden opportunity at points by being stupid.

against Chicago...he gets a break away TD to bring the Saints within 2. Instead of scoring with dignity and class......he showboats and mocks the Bears defense. The entire Bears team was lethargic and basically dead at that point. Momentum was definitely with the Saints. However, as soon as Bush did that nonsense, the Bears seemed to wake from the dead and completely took over the game on both sides of the ball....Bush and his antics woke up a sleeping giant. Once again he cost his team.

Oh and last but not least.....there is the scandal going on at USC right now. Bush was into some shady stuff and as soon as the NCAA is done investigating, The school could be stripped of their National Titles and Bush could be stripped of his Heisman.....

One thing I can always count on with Reggie......when there is a big game, he will make a bonehead decision or play that will inevitably be a huge factor in his team's loss.

 

[CATCH17]

Bush may have tons of natural ability and talent....but he isn't the smartest player out there...

against UT....he tries a lateral after getting deep inside UT territory and it becomes a turnover...had he simply accepted the tackle, USC gets the ball with a first at like the UT 20 or 15. They probably would have scored at least a FG on that drive. He cost his team a golden opportunity at points by being stupid.

against Chicago...he gets a break away TD to bring the Saints within 2. Instead of scoring with dignity and class......he showboats and mocks the Bears defense. The entire Bears team was lethargic and basically dead at that point. Momentum was definitely with the Saints. However, as soon as Bush did that nonsense, the Bears seemed to wake from the dead and completely took over the game on both sides of the ball....Bush and his antics woke up a sleeping giant. Once again he cost his team.

Oh and last but not least.....there is the scandal going on at USC right now. Bush was into some shady stuff and as soon as the NCAA is done investigating, The school could be stripped of their National Titles and Bush could be stripped of his Heisman.....

One thing I can always count on with Reggie......when there is a big game, he will make a bonehead decision or play that will inevitably be a huge factor in his team's loss.

Wow thats a hater post. What a bunch of horrible points.

The only bad play the effected his College team on the field was the one you mentioned against Texas.

Nothing else has effected his team in anyway other than good on the field.

I dont think him breaking out for 88 yards and scoring that TD was a huge factor for there loss.

 

[Biggems]

scoring the TD wasnt....but taunting a proud team on their home field, while they are still winning, and knowing the defense they can bring is STUPID.........he pulled a stupid move.

Just score the TD, give the ball to the ref and then go back to the sidelines......once u take the lead and have the game in the bag, then dance and celebrate.....his premature ejaculation of a celebration looked foolish.....it reminded me of when McNugget scored that TD on us in the first half last year and danced like he was on Soul Train....only to throw the game losing INT to Roy Williams later.....he sure wasnt dancing then was he.

what a hater post? forgive me if i dont allow myself to get Teabagged by the Reggie Bush hype...I will admit I do not like the guy. I think he has questionable character and is selfish (his actions in college could cost his team their national titles). I think he is way overhyped, I mean ESPN and the national media gave him the freakin Heisman after he got 500 yds on Fresno St. Fresno St has NO defense.

The guy may have great talent....but the guy was given the key to the league from day one without actually having to earn it. Just earn it first is all I am saying.

 

[CATCH17]

scoring the TD wasnt....but taunting a proud team on their home field, while they are still winning, and knowing the defense they can bring is STUPID.........he pulled a stupid move.

Just score the TD, give the ball to the ref and then go back to the sidelines......once u take the lead and have the game in the bag, then dance and celebrate.....his premature ejaculation of a celebration looked foolish.....it reminded me of when McNugget scored that TD on us in the first half last year and danced like he was on Soul Train....only to throw the game losing INT to Roy Williams later.....he sure wasnt dancing then was he.

what a hater post? forgive me if i dont allow myself to get Teabagged by the Reggie Bush hype...I will admit I do not like the guy. I think he has questionable character and is selfish (his actions in college could cost his team their national titles). I think he is way overhyped, I mean ESPN and the national media gave him the freakin Heisman after he got 500 yds on Fresno St. Fresno St has NO defense.

The guy may have great talent....but the guy was given the key to the league from day one without actually having to earn it. Just earn it first is all I am saying.

If he didnt earn any respect from you after he absolutely killed our defense then he probably wont because you have your mind made up already.

Regardless of what you think hes a game changer and has the ability to make an offense a lot more dynamic just by his presence.

Matchup Nightmare and you can plug him in just about anywhere on offense or in the return game and he is a major threat.

 

[romo4pres]

Bush may have tons of natural ability and talent....but he isn't the smartest player out there...

against UT....he tries a lateral after getting deep inside UT territory and it becomes a turnover...had he simply accepted the tackle, USC gets the ball with a first at like the UT 20 or 15. They probably would have scored at least a FG on that drive. He cost his team a golden opportunity at points by being stupid.

against Chicago...he gets a break away TD to bring the Saints within 2. Instead of scoring with dignity and class......he showboats and mocks the Bears defense. The entire Bears team was lethargic and basically dead at that point. Momentum was definitely with the Saints. However, as soon as Bush did that nonsense, the Bears seemed to wake from the dead and completely took over the game on both sides of the ball....Bush and his antics woke up a sleeping giant. Once again he cost his team.

Oh and last but not least.....there is the scandal going on at USC right now. Bush was into some shady stuff and as soon as the NCAA is done investigating, The school could be stripped of their National Titles and Bush could be stripped of his Heisman.....

One thing I can always count on with Reggie......when there is a big game, he will make a bonehead decision or play that will inevitably be a huge factor in his team's loss.

rubbish. I smell a bit of bias lol. The idea that the pointing is what caused chicago to win is the product of anti-celebration nutjobs. Nothing more. Where was the patriots fine for shoving it up the chargers *** after the game?

 

[jumanji]

already showing signs of greatness??? why...because he made a few plays. just about every nfl player did that this past season.

deuce should fell like crap. he had a great year and bush gets more acclaim than he does.