Interesting note from Mickey Spagnola

[Maikeru-sama]

the eagles stopped blitzing against the saints.

dont ask me why.
they just did.

For Real?

The Game I saw the Eagles were blitzing like crazy and were extremely close to getting to Brees, but Brees would always find the open receiver and punish the Eagles for Blitzing.

The same exact thing happened to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. They were blitzing and Weis made key adjustments (mainly the screen pass) and started moving the ball against them.

 

[tecolote]

The most efficient way to avoid a sack is to get rid of the ball.

Hopefully someone from your own team catches it.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

There is a difference between the occasional rush and the constant ability to move when things break down. He might be able to move like Carson Palmer, who can get you a few yards if he has some room, but this isn't a McNabb, McNair or even Plummer type of athlete.

He is far more moble then Carson Palmer, and I would easily say he is as much as a Plummer and McNair at this point in his career...not as much as McNabb.

He will surprise you...he did an amazing job of avoiding at least two sacks against the Hawks, and showed many more times the ability to side step to get a good pass.

If you don't get the feel he is mobile, then you have a nice surprise coming when he finally gets his chance.

 

[tecolote]

I think a lot of people play the "he is more mobile than Bledsoe" card when they say Romo should start, but the thing is Parcells is probably more mobile than Bledsoe.

What Romo brings to the table that is more important than mobility in my opinion, is the ability to recognize a defense and get rid of the ball faster wich in turn helps you avoid sacks and beat blitzes.

I´m not saying that Romo is not mobile, he is, I just think there are other more important reasons why he should start.

 

[Stash]

Maybe this was posted earlier, or in another thread.

He said funny how the Eagles sacked Bedsoe, what 7 times. And everyone screaming for a mobile QB in Romo. Which if he played may have been sacked 5 times.

Well Micheal Vick got sacked 7 times by the giants. Uhhh....isn't Vick supposed to be the most mobile QB? I know, the Giants have a better pass rush than the Eagles, but it isn't that much better.

The Eagles did not sack Drew Brees at all.

any analysis on this.

I think Mick is missing the real point here.

It's not a question of mobility (obviously), but a question of proper playcalling.

Apparently it doesn't occur to the Mickster that:

The Eagles had 0 sacks vs Green Bay (Favre - not mobile)

The Eagles had 7 sacks vs Dallas (Bledsoe - not mobile)

The Eagles had 0 sacks vs New Orleans (Brees - not mobile)

Play design - or lack thereof - is a key contributor to success or failure vs a pass rush

Dallas doesn't have enough quick-hitting plays to defeat a blitz when they see it.

Green Bay did
New Orleans did

And Monday night Arizona did too - against a far superior defense.

Bledsoe is slow-footed for certain, but the offensive playcalling doesn't do him or the linemen any favors.

 

[Alexander]

I think Mick is missing the real point here.

It's not a question of mobility (obviously), but a question of proper playcalling.

Apparently it doesn't occur to the Mickster that:

The Eagles had 0 sacks vs Green Bay (Favre - not mobile)

The Eagles had 7 sacks vs Dallas (Bledsoe - not mobile)

The Eagles had 0 sacks vs New Orleans (Brees - not mobile)

Play design - or lack thereof - is a key contributor to success or failure vs a pass rush

Dallas doesn't have enough quick-hitting plays to defeat a blitz when they see it.

Green Bay did
New Orleans did

And Monday night Arizona did too - against a far superior defense.

Bledsoe is slow-footed for certain, but the offensive playcalling doesn't do him or the linemen any favors.

It's not just the play design. It is the decision maker as well.

 

[KingTuna]

Maybe this was posted earlier, or in another thread.

He said funny how the Eagles sacked Bedsoe, what 7 times. And everyone screaming for a mobile QB in Romo. Which if he played may have been sacked 5 times.

Well Micheal Vick got sacked 7 times by the giants. Uhhh....isn't Vick supposed to be the most mobile QB? I know, the Giants have a better pass rush than the Eagles, but it isn't that much better.
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SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Don't stir everyone up......That is WAY to much logic and sense.....

SILENCE........................................

Bledsoe is the Antichrist remember???

You REALLY should not say those things that might be looked at as "Positive" regarding Drew.....

This new revolution is all about change and incorporating the new "Romo" movement among us weak minded fans unable to think for ourselves.

I must say that if you post anything highlighting Bledsoe's attributes or successes or any other "propaganda" that will in anyway suggest Bledsoe is still capable of leading us to the playoffs and beyond, you are risking a great lynching among the "Higher evolved" football minds that post here.

You have been WARNED!!!

Don't let it happen again

 

[Charles]

Maybe this was posted earlier, or in another thread.

He said funny how the Eagles sacked Bedsoe, what 7 times. And everyone screaming for a mobile QB in Romo. Which if he played may have been sacked 5 times.

Well Micheal Vick got sacked 7 times by the giants. Uhhh....isn't Vick supposed to be the most mobile QB? I know, the Giants have a better pass rush than the Eagles, but it isn't that much better.

The Eagles did not sack Drew Brees at all.

any analysis on this.

Mickey the "Tool" strikes back. Stupid analogy

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Mobile is a misleading description. Vick is a RB playing QB, and has a ten cent head to go along with his million dollar arm and legs. If you can confuse him, and play contain, and have the personnel to keep his scrambling under control, the Falcons are ridiculously beatable, because he cannot win with his head.

Romo looks to have some escapability as well as good decision making. That's a big leg up on a Vick.

Along these lines. I think there's a difference between "mobile QB" and a "scrambling QB."

Scrambling QB's typically get sacked more as there's often times they are looking to run with the ball and they get tackled or knocked out of bounds for a minimal loss of say 1 or 2 yards. That still counts as a sack.

Brees has more mobility than Bledsoe as he's able to move his feet around the pocket and avoid pass rushers. But, he's by far and away not a scrambling QB.


YAKUZA

 

[superpunk]

Along these lines. I think there's a difference between "mobile QB" and a "scrambling QB."

Scrambling QB's typically get sacked more as there's often times they are looking to run with the ball and they get tackled or knocked out of bounds for a minimal loss of say 1 or 2 yards. That still counts as a sack.

Brees has more mobility than Bledsoe as he's able to move his feet around the pocket and avoid pass rushers. But, he's by far and away not a scrambling QB.


YAKUZA

I was so sad on Sunday. Brees was amazing against the Eagles. Absolutely amazing. His anticipation was unreal, most passes were indefensible. He threw 2 picks, but he was outrageous.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I believe it is more of quick reads and releasing the ball.....that is what Brees did such a great job of.

 

[JMead]

I will admit that Bledsoe took sacks that game that he couldn't help. But I say that when they are blitzing that way, you have a hot receiver on a slant and you throw the ball IMMEDIATELY. When they blitz you, if you know your hot route, no reads are necessary - you get the ball otut and make them pay.

That and the dreadful snap count.

I didnt see any of those against the Eagles. They may have been covered well or not even called. It was like Dallas was trying to force a big play all game with the plays they used.

 

[JMead]

For Real?

The Game I saw the Eagles were blitzing like crazy and were extremely close to getting to Brees, but Brees would always find the open receiver and punish the Eagles for Blitzing.

The same exact thing happened to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. They were blitzing and Weis made key adjustments (mainly the screen pass) and started moving the ball against them.

You must have imagined watching the game then. The Eagles blitzed 1 time in the first half and maybe 3 or 4 times the second half and they only blitzed 1 time on the Saints last drive.

 

[percyhoward]

It's not just the play design. It is the decision maker as well.

In our case it's a lot of both, and I'm not a Bledsoe apologist. We either can't or won't do two things that could make opponents think twice before blitzing--use the shotgun, and throw to our backs.

Look at how the last 3 OC's who faced the Eagles addressed their blitz. (Actually I guess that's 2 OC's, since we don't have one )

Percentage of Plays from Shotgun (vs Phi)
GB: 30% (0 sacks)
Dal: 5% (7 sacks)
NO: 10% (0 sacks)

Using the shotgun gave Favre and Brees a little extra time. Supposedly Bledsoe hates the shotgun, or Gurode can't aim his snaps, or both. For whatever reason, we didn't believe the shotgun would help us, and we hardly used it. And hardly use it.

Passes to RB's on 1st and 2nd down (vs Phi)
GB: 9
Dal: 4
NO: 11

We are dead last (or very close to it) in the league in percentage of completed passes that go to our RB's. Green Bay and especially New Orleans use their backs as receivers often, and this also helped them beat and/or discourage blitzing by the Eagles.

JJ has two catches all year. If Bledsoe can't throw a slant, then why do we try it? It seems like we've had success with screens, but we don't like to use them.

 

[Apollo Creed]

There is a difference between being mobile, and not standing still. Bledsoe needs to realize that taking a step up or back could work just as well as taking off out the pocket. Is # 11 immune to coaching at this stage in his career? These are things that CAN be worked on.

 

[thekavorka]

I remember that long TD to Joe Horn. Brees was able to escape the immediate rush and moved out of the pocket to buy some time. He found an open Joe Horn. That's the kind of mobility I want to see in a QB, and that's the kind of mobility I think Romo can bring.

And I agree with the above poster. If we want to beat the blitz, we should also try more screens.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I remember that long TD to Joe Horn. Brees was able to escape the immediate rush and moved out of the pocket to buy some time. He found an open Joe Horn. That's the kind of mobility I want to see in a QB, and that's the kind of mobility I think Romo can bring.

And I agree with the above poster. If we want to beat the blitz, we should also try more screens.

When McNabb hit LJ Smith on the long TD he just made a quick move to step past the diving DE and hit him in stride. Same play with us and we would've been looking at 3rd and a mile, followed up by a Marion Barber draw play for 15 yards, then a great punt by McBriar. no seriously, thats exactly what would happen.

 

[thekavorka]

When McNabb hit LJ Smith on the long TD he just made a quick move to step past the diving DE and hit him in stride. Same play with us and we would've been looking at 3rd and a mile, followed up by a Marion Barber draw play for 15 yards, then a great punt by McBriar. no seriously, thats exactly what would happen.

Haha. I don't doubt that at all.

 

[rcaldw]

One of the most annoying things in the world is to have someone try, through statistics, to tell us we aren't seeing what a blind man could see.

IS DREW BLEDSOE SLOW FOOTED AND AN EASY TARGET FOR A SACK?

Yes

How do we know that?

Because he gets sacked like crazy wherever he goes.

End of discussion.

Now, does that mean he isn't the best QB for the team right now? THAT is worthy of debate. But what isn't debatable is that the guy gets sacked alot and isn't mobile.

 

[percyhoward]

rcaldw

You just got annoyed for no reason, because I specifically said the blame lies with Bledsoe as well as with the plays. Maybe if you read more carefully, you won't get annoyed so often.