Interesting Stephen Jones quote on Ware

[Alexander]

Last year I didn't see how they'd get Free to take a pay cut, but they did. I like our chances.

I do not think Doug Free and Ware are nearly in the same situation. One is a perennial fixture and all timer coming off an injury filled year, the other was an average player coming off a poor season with a competitive free agency market. He was being paid left tackle money and took a pay decrease to what a right tackle would likely get. It is not like he took some bargain basement deal, he still made out with good money and did not have to go look for employment.

Ware could hit the street and make good enough money regardless. I do not think he is fearing being cut.

 

[Zordon]

This is what is newsworthy. Not that Ware's career is coming to a close, but that the Cowboys "cap genius" is tacitly admitting that the cowboys have a "cap situation."

Seems a long ways, at least for him, from the "always makes me chuckle," comment he made a couple of offseasons ago:



http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4690891/cowboys-not-worried-about-cap-penalties

that chuckle comment still ticks me off. the idiot was so cocky and brash that offseason too.

 

[Alexander]

that chuckle comment still ticks me off. the idiot was so cocky and brash that offseason too.

"'Room' always makes me chuckle," Jones said. "That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage. All I can tell you is we can make the moves that we need to make, hopefully to get prepared for the draft, to make us the type of football team we need to be."

And that, my friends, is how you basically achieve the perfect recipe for mediocrity. In a perfect world without the impact of bad luck and those darn injuries, this man has it all figured out.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

And that, my friends, is how you basically achieve the perfect recipe for mediocrity. In a perfect world without the impact of bad luck and those darn injuries, this man has it all figured out.

Of course he does. He has the secret sauce. It's his formula!

 

[Nirvana]

I do not think Doug Free and Ware are nearly in the same situation. One is a perennial fixture and all timer coming off an injury filled year, the other was an average player coming off a poor season with a competitive free agency market. He was being paid left tackle money and took a pay decrease to what a right tackle would likely get. It is not like he took some bargain basement deal, he still made out with good money and did not have to go look for employment.

Ware could hit the street and make good enough money regardless. I do not think he is fearing being cut.

Granted, their situations are different, but it was still a sign of competence and skill in negotiations by the Cowboys front office that a new deal for Free was able to get done. I actually see signs in Ware's recent comments that they are again winning the negotiation battle. I'll think we'll see a pay cut and new deal for Ware in the near future.

 

[Alexander]

Granted, their situations are different, but it was still a sign of competence and skill in negotiations by the Cowboys front office that a new deal for Free was able to get done. I actually see signs in Ware's recent comments that they are again winning the negotiation battle. I'll think we'll see a pay cut and new deal for Ware in the near future.

The one thing we did right with Free was letting it string out until the last minute and the fact that Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston playing the market to tighten the picture. That will likely not work with Ware.

 

[Section446]

Clean house. Start over.

I'm all for cleaning house. Get rid of Witten, Ware, Spencer, Austin, Carr, draft a QB early this year, and let Romo walk next year. We have to get younger, and start creating a new winning culture, we can't do it with guys who have never been winners.

 

[Alexander]

I'm all for cleaning house. Get rid of Witten, Ware, Spencer, Austin, Carr, draft a QB early this year, and let Romo walk next year. We have to get younger, and start creating a new winning culture, we can't do it with guys who have never been winners.

That is nice, but not practical. We have not been able to find "winners" regardless and since that is the case it is not wise to do a complete flush. But I do agree you need to start sometime. Austin would be the first one I would let go. Spencer is a free agent and he needs to be an afterthought to us, regardless of health. Ware is the trickiest one. Carr is a bank, so is Romo. But 2015 needs to be an offseason of real reckoning for the future. I cannot see Jones "starting over" with Garrett. He is going to hang onto whatever he can to give him a shot.

 

[casmith07]

Ware said his agent, Pat Dye, has not been approached by the team yet about their plans, and he did not want to discuss specifics. Those discussions could come next week at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis.

“I don’t know what’s going to happen,” Ware said. “I’m going to let the guys run the numbers and handle that. My mentality is that I’m going to do what I need to do to try to help the team out the best I can where they’re going to win and I want to win.

“We need guys here to be on the team for next season to help me out, to help us out, so sometimes you can’t think about a whole bunch of money and then not have anybody there. You need somebody there by your side, a defensive tackle, a defensive end, a wide receiver. You need to figure it out because the time is now. We need to win. That’s what I get out of playing. I play hurt, bruised up. Some guys don’t play, but I still get out there and play because I don’t care about anything else.”

More: http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4724391/cowboys-yet-to-talk-about-wares-future

Encouraging.

 

[LatinMind]

It's time to move on from Ware. IF he checks out medically, sign Spencer to a 1 yr $5 mil deal and draft your other end.

what good what that do when he's still even struggling to walk with crutches. hes not going to be ready for 2014

 

[Bungarian]

Typical back and forth between team and agent during negotiations,

 

[daveferr33]

that chuckle comment still ticks me off. the idiot was so cocky and brash that offseason too.

The comment that still ticks me off is where he stated that the 18th spot was in the 2013 draft “too rich for him,” [i.e., Eric Reid].

Yep. too rich for a rookie who started 16 games on the No. 3 defense in the NFL and in doing so made 67 tackles, had four interceptions and recovered two fumbles.

 

[Alexander]

The comment that still ticks me off is where he stated that the 18th spot was in the 2013 draft “too rich for him,” [i.e., Eric Reid].

Yep. too rich for a rookie who started 16 games on the No. 3 defense in the NFL and in doing so made 67 tackles, had four interceptions and recovered two fumbles.

It just means they did not value the safety position that much.

In retrospect, a mild miscalculation even as good as Frederick and Williams were.

That said, I would still do that trade again but learn from it this time around. This is a good safety group. If Clinton-Dix or especially Pryor is there at our choice, we need to seriously think about taking them and putting a bandaid on that sore that has been festering since Woodson retired and Williams mentally checked out. Joyner in the second would be just as fine as well since he is so flexible.

 

[Common Sense]

The comment that still ticks me off is where he stated that the 18th spot was in the 2013 draft “too rich for him,” [i.e., Eric Reid].

Yep. too rich for a rookie who started 16 games on the No. 3 defense in the NFL and in doing so made 67 tackles, had four interceptions and recovered two fumbles.

It's amazing that we got as much production as we did out of the 2013 rookie class considering how off our scouting was.

 

[bsheeern]

that chuckle comment still ticks me off. the idiot was so cocky and brash that offseason too.

Company line talk

 

[TwoCentPlain]

It's time to move on from Ware. IF he checks out medically, sign Spencer to a 1 yr $5 mil deal and draft your other end.

Why would anyone pay Spencer $5M for one year? My guess is that no other team will offer Spencer much more than vet min. And $5M for a guy who can barely walk as of last month! It would be a colossal waste of money with Spencer and his agent laughing all the way to the bank. No, we don't need any more idiotic Jay Ratliff-like contracts. Spencer wasn't even in shape at the beginning of camp after signing his $10M franchise tag last year.

 

[SDCowboy]

If you want to win in the NFL today say thank you DW for the great years and best of luck.

This. It's time to move on. Period.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

That's interesting, Stephen.

Hey, with the "cap situation that we're in", do we also have to look at the guy running our cap?

Just promise me you'll talk to yourself in the mirror.

Wait a min...I thought getting under the the Cap each year was a joke....according to one hell of a personnel director.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

It's time to move on from Ware. IF he checks out medically, sign Spencer to a 1 yr $5 mil deal and draft your other end.

I agree on Ware . I disagree with Spencer 5 million ? Why honestly Selvie is a better player at this point . Release ware , don't sign Spencer and just hit good on two DL in the draft .

 

[Alexander]

Why would anyone pay Spencer $5M for one year? My guess is that no other team will offer Spencer much more than vet min. And $5M for a guy who can barely walk as of last month!

Mumble, mumble--can't prove that--mumble, mumble--Dr. Broaddus--mumble.