Interesting tidbit on the Ticket this morning about our offense

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BrAinPaiNt;2555579 said:
Don't know about TO not knowing, but it seemed pretty obvious with Roy Williams. Heck there were times they were telling him where to line up right before a play after coming out of the huddle.

Troy Aikman made a point to call him out about that and his route running every game he called.
 

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Brad Shamm has also said the same things ... but he was caught saying them off the air before The Cult of Terrell accuses of him of media assassination (as if the radio announcer of the Cowboys has any incentive to smear one of the Cowboys players). And yeah, the WRs are not only supposed to know their routes but also know their adjustments on the fly based on coverages. Those are the types of things covered in team meetings, also known as "nap time" for TO.
 

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Ozzu;2555424 said:
I was listening to D&M on the Ticket this morning and George had an interesting tidbit about our offensive problems. George is the PA guy there at Texas Stadium and he works for the Ticket which is of course the flagship station of the Cowboys.

He said he heard from very reliable sources inside the organization that the major issue with the offense going down the stretch is that as an offense, they had absolutely no idea where our top two WRs were going on each play. Now, I know some people here were saying that, but it was interesting to hear it from people inside the organization.

That brings me to a question. What in the WORLD do we do each week in preparation for games that both of our freaking wideouts have absolutely no idea where they're supposed to line up or what routes they're supposed to run?

I am asking this seriously, not sarcasticly. I thought TO has always practiced hard? Is this not the case? I also don't understand how they didn't know where the 2 WR's were going on every play? That just doesn't makes sense? So, Romo calls a play or draws it out in the grass or whatever, and they just run any rout they want to? This is hard to believe. I understand if one of the WR's, RW, doesn't know a play or two but.....
 

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What looked very wrong to me about this offense was the OL not blocking worth a damn.
 

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I don't think they meant that the WRs literally don't know what routes to run. It's that they run them so poorly, Tony "doesn't know where they're going to be".

And IMO a lot of it is also what IR said -- the adjustments they make on the fly.

But Owens has always been a poor route runner. Look at how many of his big plays come when Tony buys extra time -- because that's a time when freelancing actually works.

Again, as IR said, Sham said Owens is a great athlete but could be a lot better (I believe Sham actually said terrible) as a professional wide receiver -- meaning precise routes, proper timing, and sure hands.

What's really troubling is how observers like Laufenberg see this, people inside the organization see this, but Jerry either doesn't know it or, much more likely, simply ignores it.
 

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I simply cannot believe that walk throughs and practicing without pads aren't enough to prepare a team for each weeks games and ever so slowly I wipe the tears from my eyes.
 

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From TO's perspective, the QB is supposed to watch TO all the time and throw him the ball at the best possible time and ignore all the other receivers.

Whatever route, if any, he chooses to run is obviously the right one and all routes by all other potential receivers are clearly wrong.
 

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dmq;2555440 said:
I don't believe this.

Perhaps you should listen to Aikman, Irvin and a lot of others who actually played in the NFL who all say that Roy11 runs crappy routes . . .
 

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Daudr;2555666 said:
Perhaps you should listen to Aikman, Irvin and a lot of others who actually played in the NFL who all say that Roy11 runs crappy routes . . .

T.O. doesn't run particularly crisp routes either. Of all the receivers on our team, Witten is the best route runner, which is pretty funny.
 

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Ozzu;2555424 said:
I was listening to D&M on the Ticket this morning and George had an interesting tidbit about our offensive problems. George is the PA guy there at Texas Stadium and he works for the Ticket which is of course the flagship station of the Cowboys.

He said he heard from very reliable sources inside the organization that the major issue with the offense going down the stretch is that as an offense, they had absolutely no idea where our top two WRs were going on each play. Now, I know some people here were saying that, but it was interesting to hear it from people inside the organization.

That brings me to a question. What in the WORLD do we do each week in preparation for games that both of our freaking wideouts have absolutely no idea where they're supposed to line up or what routes they're supposed to run?

I believe it.

It's not hard to figure out that this team did not practice well otherwise they would have been much more polished and error free on Sundays.

Fair or unfair, Tony Romo needs to step up and become a leader in the locker room. First, he needs to take his job seriously and second, he needs to hold his teammates accountable. Easier said than done.
 

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I believe this.


How many times did Romo have to motion someone in place just before the snap? It seemed like every play there was confusion. We already know that other teams talked about how confused our defense was at times, yelling out to each other right before the snap.


That probably explains some of Romo's turnovers as well, some of them, not all of them.


Micheal Irvin said that Roy wasn;t running good routes, others have commented on T.O. giving up on routes, rounding off routes.


I guess the easy way is to blame Coaching. Primarily Garrett, however I did hear Micheal say that he was not gonna blame Garrett fully for the offensive woes because he saw a lot of shabby routes being run.
 

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I believe it.

And how many respected voices need to say it before others start believing it too?

Hey, wonder why Romo seems to look for Witten all the time?
 

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I don't believe anything unless it comes from Ed Werder.

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Chocolate Lab;2555631 said:
I don't think they meant that the WRs literally don't know what routes to run. It's that they run them so poorly, Tony "doesn't know where they're going to be".

And IMO a lot of it is also what IR said -- the adjustments they make on the fly.

But Owens has always been a poor route runner. Look at how many of his big plays come when Tony buys extra time -- because that's a time when freelancing actually works.

Again, as IR said, Sham said Owens is a great athlete but could be a lot better (I believe Sham actually said terrible) as a professional wide receiver -- meaning precise routes, proper timing, and sure hands.

What's really troubling is how observers like Laufenberg see this, people inside the organization see this, but Jerry either doesn't know it or, much more likely, simply ignores it.

Bingo. When other players are where they're supposed to be, you can sustain drives and then get the ball to TO for big plays when he's able to beat coverage. When you've got more than one guy not running routes carefully, you don't always have options to sustain drives. Add to that that the OL often wasn't picking up stunting linemen or blitzing LBs, and your offensive production dips.
 

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Alexander;2555462 said:
Why on earth not?

You will never hear either receiver fess up, so you can give up on getting "proof". But the smoke around this is too hard to ignore. It would explain a great deal.

The smoke is very real but the proof on the field is as real as it gets. After what we all got to see the last 4 weeks I don't think we needed the media to enlighten us in this regard although I am happy it is coming out.
 

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InmanRoshi;2555589 said:
Brad Shamm has also said the same things ... but he was caught saying them off the air before The Cult of Terrell accuses of him of media assassination (as if the radio announcer of the Cowboys has any incentive to smear one of the Cowboys players). And yeah, the WRs are not only supposed to know their routes but also know their adjustments on the fly based on coverages. Those are the types of things covered in team meetings, also known as "nap time" for TO.

:lmao:

Man, you're on a roll. :D
 
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