Interesting tidbit on the Ticket this morning about our offense

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JordanTaber;2557768 said:
False.

Owens moves around and plays every receiver position. Always has.

Romo has been directing ALL the receivers ever since he moved into the starting lineup. That's just his style.

So let me get this right. It's Romo's style to have wideouts line up in the wrong spot and then direct them to the right spot before the snap?

Good to know.
 

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Ozzu;2557786 said:
So let me get this right. It's Romo's style to have wideouts line up in the wrong spot and then direct them to the right spot before the snap?

Good to know.

No, it's Romo's style to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage based on what he sees (or thinks he sees).

You think all of the receivers just miraculously forget every play in the playbook?
 

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JordanTaber;2557779 said:
Wade's comments don't make any sense given the fact that the receivers are constantly moved around in this offense. You can see this just by watching the games. Sometimes Owens goes in motion from the Z (flanker) position. Sometimes he's lined up at X (split end). He plays on both sides of the field. He also plays in the slot. This didn't change when Roy was inserted, though I suppose the number of times he played in one position versus the other may have shifted.

Nonetheless, it shouldn't affect his knowledge of the offense given the fact that he's played in each spot so often in this system.

The only team I know of that leaves their receivers in the same spot pretty much every down is Indy.

Good lord...
 

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CoCo;2555526 said:
And the broken record plays on.

Ok, we get it. You blame Garrett for everything wrong this side of global warming. Even when someone suggests the WR's aren't executing their routes properly there is no mention of accountability from the WR's themselves, nor from the WR coach, nor the HC.

Nope, its all on Coach Tecmo. :rolleyes:

No sir, you are 100% wrong that it is all on Garrett.


I would have fired Cupcake in the Eagle's lockerroom after the game.

I would have fired our ST coach after watching our probowl punter get carted off the field in Zona.

I am praying that our WRs coach gets hired in St. Louis because he freaking sucks as well.

Garrett (a.k.a. Tecmo) is responsible for the entire offense as the OC and highest paid assistant coach in the NFL. If the WRs coach sucks, it is GARRETT's responsibiltiy to fix it, that is why he is making $3 million. If the WRs dont know the routes to run, it is GARRETT's responsibility to teach them or sit their arse on the bench if they are that frigging dumb.

Bottom line.......Garrett is responsible for the performance of the offense and Wade is responsible for the performance of the overall team and they both freaking suck.

NOBODY GETS A PASS FROM BEAST!!!
 

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Aikmaniac;2555551 said:
The only direction the receivers had was to run with a zig-zag motion after the ball was caught.

Ready, down, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut, hut....
:lmao2:
 

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wileedog;2556027 said:
OCs don't create practice schedules (or lack therof), Head Coaches do.

We saw from camp through the bye week through the entire season Wade give days off, have light 'walkthroughs' for practices and avoid anything too physical. There's no way you can not draw a correletion between that and what happened on the field this year, and this is just another glaring example.

If there is a shred of truth to this, and honestly there is so much smoke its hard to deny the fire, (even SPAGS is saying it), then its all on the Big Guy.

I would have fired Cupcake in the Eagle's lockerroom, so the big guy is not getting a pass from Beast!!!

Cupcake and Tecmo both need to get their arse out of Dallas.

I guarantee that if Mike Shannahan is calling the plays, the WRs dam well better know the route to run or their arse will be riding pine.

Shanny dont play that.
 

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Bottom line..........none of us really know why our WRs are running wrong or poor routes. Maybe since they didnt practice they really didnt know the plays, maybe switching the X and Z receivers caused confusion, maybe our WRs are doing it on purpose because they felt they were being "frozen out" by Romo and Witten, or maybe they are just that freaking dumb.

The more serious issue is the fact that we are actually having a discussion about why receivers for a profootball team cant run correct routes.

Doesnt a player usually learn how to run routes in Jr. High????

This is just freaking sad that at this level you have to teach basics like route running!!!!!
 

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Beast_from_East;2557843 said:
Bottom line..........none of us really know why our WRs are running wrong or poor routes. Maybe since they didnt practice they really didnt know the plays, maybe switching the X and Z receivers caused confusion, maybe our WRs are doing it on purpose because they felt they were being "frozen out" by Romo and Witten, or maybe they are just that freaking dumb.

The more serious issue is the fact that we are actually having a discussion about why receivers for a profootball team cant run correct routes.

Doesnt a player usually learn how to run routes in Jr. High????

This is just freaking sad that at this level you have to teach basics like route running!!!!!

You're assuming that this stuff is actually true.

It isn't.

No NFL scout has ever accused Owens of being a poor route runner. He's classified by virtually everyone as an "average" route runner, like most elite receivers. Route running is largely a lost art form.
 

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JordanTaber;2557845 said:
You're assuming that this stuff is actually true.

It isn't.

No NFL scout has ever accused Owens of being a poor route runner. He's classified by virtually everyone as an "average" route runner, like most elite receivers. Route running is largely a lost art form.

If none of this stuff is true, then what was the problem the last month of the season???

Why were receivers turning left and Romo was throwing to their right???

Why were the receivers running hook routes and Romo was throwing post routes???

The offense looked like the first day of summer camp back in Jr. High............SO WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE PROBLEM???
 

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AMERICAS_FAN;2555471 said:
It's the WR Coach's responsibility to make sure that his roster understands whrere to line up on each play, as well to know what route to run and how to adjust it based on the defense. Either that didn't happen, or it did, but the WR Coach was as confused as his players about what Garrett was expecting on each play.

You can't rule either possibility out. But Garrertt DID meet with his WRs to iron this stuff out - as it is his job to ultimately do so - and unfortunately after the meeting the passing offense regressed further.

When you're an offensive coordinator and your offense is broken, then that speaks to your ineffectiveness; but when you're an offensive coordinator and you take that broken offense head-on and the effect is that you break it even more, then that speaks to your incompetence.

I think you miss the point. The receivers know where to go and both have worked in far more complex offenses than ours. The issue is that they were going rogue. A guy isn't happy about the play call so he gets schoolyard and just tries to beat the defender flat out, or if he's convinced it isn't coming to him, he just breaks off his route.

It is Garrett's job to fix that stuff. But when the owner is supporting TO and RW, it makes Garrett's task much harder.
 

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JordanTaber;2557768 said:
False.

Owens moves around and plays every receiver position. Always has.

Romo has been directing ALL the receivers ever since he moved into the starting lineup. That's just his style.

So as they break the huddle Romo has assessed the defense in 0.5 of a second and starts directing the WR's? Riiiiiiight.
 
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