Interesting tidbit on the Ticket this morning about our offense

CowboyChris

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i can believe this, thats why we Romo would target Witten more times than not.
 

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Nate has been saying this for weeks. He said that Romo spends too much time on the line of scrimmage directing the wideouts, (Roy & TO), before the snap, that he has very little time to read the defense.

He said that he knows for a fact that TO only studied the plays coming to him, in the game plan and didn't run hard when he knew the ball was going elsewhere. Nate suggested that TO and Roy sit and use Austins, Crayton and Witten, until the other two Bozos learn the offense.

I really can't blame Romo or Garrett for this mess. Garrett called the right plays, Romo knew where he needed to go with the ball......the problem was that the Wr wasn't where Romo wanted to go with the ball. They never executed the plays properly.............
 

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lcharles;2555736 said:
I guess the easy way is to blame Coaching. Primarily Garrett, however I did hear Micheal say that he was not gonna blame Garrett fully for the offensive woes because he saw a lot of shabby routes being run.

The coach IS to blame because he should be telling them to either run the right routes or sit the bench.

But Wade doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to say that; neither does Garrett.

And even if they did, Jerry Jones would simply overrule them.

As Juke has said over and over, this is a dysfunctional team which won't get any better until there's a change at the top. And that is going to be very frustrating to us fans because at least you can replace coaches. Owners are here to stay unless the expire or sell the team.
 

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I'll say it again. The year after T.O. retires, the Cowboys return to the Super Bowl.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
 

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tyke1doe;2555916 said:
I'll say it again. The year after T.O. retires, the Cowboys return to the Super Bowl.

I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.



I hope you are right.


I hope it's next year too! :D
 

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Mr Cowboy;2555913 said:
Nate has been saying this for weeks. He said that Romo spends too much time on the line of scrimmage directing the wideouts, (Roy & TO), before the snap, that he has very little time to read the defense.

He said that he knows for a fact that TO only studied the plays coming to him, in the game plan and didn't run hard when he knew the ball was going elsewhere. Nate suggested that TO and Roy sit and use Austins, Crayton and Witten, until the other two Bozos learn the offense.

I really can't blame Romo or Garrett for this mess. Garrett called the right plays, Romo knew where he needed to go with the ball......the problem was that the Wr wasn't where Romo wanted to go with the ball. They never executed the plays properly.............

Spags also mentioned this and said that Roy and TO don't adjust their routes when the defense blitzes.
 

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lcharles;2555736 said:
I guess the easy way is to blame Coaching. Primarily Garrett, however I did hear Micheal say that he was not gonna blame Garrett fully for the offensive woes because he saw a lot of shabby routes being run.

At sometime the players have to take responsibilty.

But hey, it can't possibly be MeO everyone knows he walks on water. ;)
 

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So, we're supposed to believe that TO ran the correct routes last year, but not this year, even though our offense was more simple this year?

LOL @ anyone who believes this.
 

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dmq;2555543 said:
So TO suddenly couldn't figure out where to line up and where to run his route when he didn't seem to have any problem last year? I would believe it about Roy, but it seemed like Roy ran the same route every play and from the same location.

Maybe the fact that he was playing a new position for the second half of the season has a little bit to do with it.
 

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theogt;2555972 said:
So, we're supposed to believe that TO ran the correct routes last year, but not this year, even though our offense was more simple this year?

LOL @ anyone who believes this.

Again. He switched spots when Roy came in.

I have no idea if this is true at all and if it is I don't think it was the case on 100% of the plays.

But you have to admit Romo was constantly directing traffic when they were breaking the huddle.
 

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keep having dj's at practice and letting the players not take it seriously.
 

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Arch Stanton;2555934 said:
Spags also mentioned this and said that Roy and TO don't adjust their routes when the defense blitzes.

Which would explain a lot about the apparent tendencies of Garret to call 30 yard pass plays with what looked like 24 LBers running free in our backfield every play. No adjustments by Thing 1 and Thing 2.
 

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Beast_from_East;2555449 said:
Coach Tecmo doesnt believe in practice, he likes to call plays on the fly!!!!

OCs don't create practice schedules (or lack therof), Head Coaches do.

We saw from camp through the bye week through the entire season Wade give days off, have light 'walkthroughs' for practices and avoid anything too physical. There's no way you can not draw a correletion between that and what happened on the field this year, and this is just another glaring example.

If there is a shred of truth to this, and honestly there is so much smoke its hard to deny the fire, (even SPAGS is saying it), then its all on the Big Guy.
 

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dcfanatic;2555986 said:
Again. He switched spots when Roy came in.

I have no idea if this is true at all and if it is I don't think it was the case on 100% of the plays.

But you have to admit Romo was constantly directing traffic when they were breaking the huddle.
Switched spots?
 

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No offense to anyone particularly but this is just moronic.

I saw the same games everyone else did and Tony Romo missed Jason Witten at least 3 times in the last couple of games because of disconnects.

Teams have "read" plays where a WR chooses a route based on coverage and the QB should read the same thing.

Now it may be that T.O. and RW "read" things as they saw fit a bit but Witten and Crayton also had issues where Romo was throwing to a spot they didn't go to. Considering it was evident with a multitude of WRs it is rather cheap to try it land it all at the feet of 2 guys.

The biggest issues with the offense were:
a) Romo stopped having as much time to pass and combined with his injuries no longer made Houdini like escapes.
b) We lost any semblance of a power running game as Kosier and Barber were out.
c) We lost a ton of speed threat with Felix and Austin being out.
d) Witten and RW were a shell of their healthy selves at the end of the year.
 

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wileedog;2556027 said:
OCs don't create practice schedules (or lack therof), Head Coaches do.

We saw from camp through the bye week through the entire season Wade give days off, have light 'walkthroughs' for practices and avoid anything too physical. There's no way you can not draw a correletion between that and what happened on the field this year, and this is just another glaring example.

If there is a shred of truth to this, and honestly there is so much smoke its hard to deny the fire, (even SPAGS is saying it), then its all on the Big Guy.

And under Parcells the team was too tired and beat up to finish strong.

Bottom line is if you don't win you did it wrong.
There is no right way to lose.
 

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The fact that they could be running very poor routes, and this I don't doubt at all could be the case (not saying it is but I wouldn't be shocked if it is) would easily give just another reason why Romo is far more comfortable looking for Witten all the time cause with Witten 98 percent of the time he's going to be right where he's supposed to be, when he's supposed to be, and that makes it much easier for Romo.

If anyone has ever watched the Americas Game DVDs there is an extra segment in there where Aikman was talking about Jay and the connection he had with Jay to the point that he didn't even have to worry about what Jay was doing cause he knew Jay would be thinking the exact same thing that he would be, and he'd be right where he was supposed to be all the time. Aikman said that made his job so much easier knowing he had a guy like that out there.

Of course it didn't hurt Aikman, either, that he had a HOF WR out there who not only caught the ball well, but ran great routes, and took great pride in making sure that even on plays that he wasn't going to necassarily be able to catch the ball that the defender didn't get a chance to make a play on it either.

But, none the less, it was pretty interesting to listen to Troy talk about Jay and what he meant to his success.
 

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jterrell;2556072 said:
And under Parcells the team was too tired and beat up to finish strong.

Bottom line is if you don't win you did it wrong.
There is no right way to lose.

I don't buy that completely. Parcells ran tough camps and practices, but its not like they were so far and away tougher than anyone in the league that only our team was tired in December.

I think Parcells got outcoached most Decembers, quite frankly. By the end of the year teams had him figured out, but he preferred to stick with his game plan and try to execute rather than adjust, and that just doesn't work well in the modern game, as many pointed out at the time.

Brady James didn't look like he didn't know what planet he was from in the 2006 Lions game because he was tired - the Lions saw his weaknesses on tape and exploited the heck out of him.

All that said, I think Inman said it best on this thread "At least they were running the wrong routes on fresh legs." Give me a fundamentally sound 'tired' player over the undisciplined 'fresh' bunch we have every time.
 

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theogt;2555972 said:
So, we're supposed to believe that TO ran the correct routes last year, but not this year, even though our offense was more simple this year?

LOL @ anyone who believes this.

TO's alleged deficiencies as a route runner may stem less from ignorance and more from pigheadedness. It certainly wouldn't be the first time in his career.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2556155 said:
TO's alleged deficiencies as a route runner may stem less from ignorance and more from pigheadedness. It certainly wouldn't be the first time in his career.

You forgot arrogance.:p:
 
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