Interesting tidbit on the Ticket this morning about our offense

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the sad part about it, this is a professional football team... all this other stuff is just coffee house BS!
 

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wileedog;2556109 said:
I don't buy that completely. Parcells ran tough camps and practices, but its not like they were so far and away tougher than anyone in the league that only our team was tired in December.

I think Parcells got outcoached most Decembers, quite frankly. By the end of the year teams had him figured out, but he preferred to stick with his game plan and try to execute rather than adjust, and that just doesn't work well in the modern game, as many pointed out at the time.

Brady James didn't look like he didn't know what planet he was from in the 2006 Lions game because he was tired - the Lions saw his weaknesses on tape and exploited the heck out of him.

All that said, I think Inman said it best on this thread "At least they were running the wrong routes on fresh legs." Give me a fundamentally sound 'tired' player over the undisciplined 'fresh' bunch we have every time.

I am not asking you to buy anything.
I am merely telling you what the media, fans and the team was stating as Parcells exited.

And it was that the team was too worn down from the workload of the season.

So ultimately what I am saying is, if you don't win then you did it wrong. If you practice 1 day a week or have 2 a days all year it is perfectly right so long as you win.

Dallas had a lot of guys hurting, a lot of guys playing through injuries and all this whining about preparation is just the opposite of what we saw when we flamed out in season's under BP.
 

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jterrell;2556362 said:
I am not asking you to buy anything.
I am merely telling you what the media, fans and the team was stating as Parcells exited.

I'd wager it was mostly coming from the players, which was parroted by the media and fans. The same players who were the ones looking for any excuse they could find as to why they collapsed in December, and were ecstatic they weren't going to have to work hard anymore.

Again, there are plenty of taskmasters in the NFL. Parcells Dolphins with his handpicked coach won out 5 straight games down the stretch, including a must win on the road in NY to make the playoffs. No one was "tired".

I don't believe anything coming from this group of players, especially when it concerns work and accountability.
 

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....but the four talking heads, three of which work out of VR, make statements about this team that are "moronic".
 

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wileedog;2556548 said:
I'd wager it was mostly coming from the players, which was parroted by the media and fans. The same players who were the ones looking for any excuse they could find as to why they collapsed in December, and were ecstatic they weren't going to have to work hard anymore.

Again, there are plenty of taskmasters in the NFL. Parcells Dolphins with his handpicked coach won out 5 straight games down the stretch, including a must win on the road in NY to make the playoffs. No one was "tired".

I don't believe anything coming from this group of players, especially when it concerns work and accountability.

And Bill Belichick runs some of the most demanding and physical practices in the NFL. He's only gotten 3 rings out of it.
 

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theogt;2556041 said:
Switched spots?

Yes. T.O. went to the 'Z' spot and Roy took the 'X' when the trade went down.

Stupid move if you ask me.

And could have been a cause for some of the confusion.
 

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Im not buying this either, suddenly TO forgot how to run routes? It is the same group of WRs we had last season. I dont care what anyone says the Oline is the real problem with this team. Teams like the Eagles, Falcons, Ravens and Giants are able to move the ball offensively with out having a ton of top flight WRs, the reason is they control the LOS. We get way too caught up in the flashy players and lose sight of what really makes offenses go.

If you look at our top performances offensively this year they were all games vs teams with weaker front 7s like the Browns. When our Oline held up our offense was unstoppable.
 

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dcfanatic;2556619 said:
Yes. T.O. went to the 'Z' spot and Roy took the 'X' when the trade went down.

Stupid move if you ask me.

And could have been a cause for some of the confusion.
I didn't see this reported. And I didn't notice much difference (probably because neither were catching many balls) in terms of formation, etc.
 

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InmanRoshi;2556580 said:
And Bill Belichick runs some of the most demanding and physical practices in the NFL. He's only gotten 3 rings out of it.

He used video cameras to record the other teams signals though. In other words, physical practices and cheating was why he won three rings, with what probably should be more weight being given to the cheating aspect as the cause for success.
 

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SultanOfSix;2556952 said:
He used video cameras to record the other teams signals though. In other words, physical practices and cheating was why he won three rings, with what probably should be more weight being given to the cheating aspect as the cause for success.

:rolleyes:

What, did he forget to cheat on the Giants or something last year after they basically steamrolled over the rest of the league all season?
 

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Ozzu;2555424 said:
I was listening to D&M on the Ticket this morning and George had an interesting tidbit about our offensive problems. George is the PA guy there at Texas Stadium and he works for the Ticket which is of course the flagship station of the Cowboys.

He said he heard from very reliable sources inside the organization that the major issue with the offense going down the stretch is that as an offense, they had absolutely no idea where our top two WRs were going on each play. Now, I know some people here were saying that, but it was interesting to hear it from people inside the organization.

That brings me to a question. What in the WORLD do we do each week in preparation for games that both of our freaking wideouts have absolutely no idea where they're supposed to line up or what routes they're supposed to run?

This really worries me. That's basic preparation. Garret should be all over that. I truly hope the WRs and Romo take it upon themselves this year to get together sooner rather than later and practice every single route until they're running it all crisply and clicking with Romo. The WRs and Romo need to develop a good feel for each other and now is the perfect time to do so. They should do this well ahead of TC. Trust has to be established somewhere. Hopefully RW11 subscribes completely to the theory of working with his QB in the offseason to establish that trust while there's plenty of time to do so... There's still hope for him.
 

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theogt;2556943 said:
I didn't see this reported. And I didn't notice much difference (probably because neither were catching many balls) in terms of formation, etc.

Wade talks T.O. switching to the Z

Come on Theo, get with it!

We talked about this on the show last Monday and I know you are one of our biggest fans! LOL.

It was a dumb move IMO.

Instead of having one WR uncomfortable, you then had two WR's somewhat uncomfortable. Even if T.O knows this offense inside and out it's still an adjustment for him moving spots.

And for the people telling me that it's just 'routes being run' save it.

There is a lot more to being a WR than running routes.

Switching positions means you are also going to run into different coverages depending on 'strong and weak' side adjustments, plus you also may run up against different CB's because most defense have a LCB and RCB.

Different blocking assigments. Different head adjustment when looking back at the QB on occasions. Difference of where you stand presnap depending on the hash and LOS. These little things are now having to be thought about.

Not to mention the fact that the QB is now looking at a different WR in that 'X' spot now as well. Now he has to find his comfort in T.O. being in the 'Z' position. As does Witten and the other TE's when they are on the field.

And I get the notion of trying to find some opportunties to get T.O. open, I just don't want to change his position in the offense.

I can't say it enough. Dumb move.

I wonder if Wade and Garrett are second guessing themselves on doing this today? I would hope so because even if it wasn't a problem, it sure didn't help either.
 

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wileedog;2556960 said:
:rolleyes:

What, did he forget to cheat on the Giants or something last year after they basically steamrolled over the rest of the league all season?

I guess so, or perhaps Karma is *****.
 

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dcfanatic;2555986 said:
Again. He switched spots when Roy came in.

I have no idea if this is true at all and if it is I don't think it was the case on 100% of the plays.

But you have to admit Romo was constantly directing traffic when they were breaking the huddle.

False.

Owens moves around and plays every receiver position. Always has.

Romo has been directing ALL the receivers ever since he moved into the starting lineup. That's just his style.
 

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JordanTaber;2557768 said:
False.

Owens moves around and plays every receiver position. Always has.

Romo has been directing ALL the receivers ever since he moved into the starting lineup. That's just his style.
You should really listen to Wade Phillips' comments about Owens and Williams changing positions which can be found in the link he included within his post.
 

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DallasEast;2557772 said:
You should really listen to Wade Phillips' comments about Owens and Williams changing positions which can be found in the link he included within his post.

Wade's comments don't make any sense given the fact that the receivers are constantly moved around in this offense. You can see this just by watching the games. Sometimes Owens goes in motion from the Z (flanker) position. Sometimes he's lined up at X (split end). He plays on both sides of the field. He also plays in the slot. This didn't change when Roy was inserted, though I suppose the number of times he played in one position versus the other may have shifted.

Nonetheless, it shouldn't affect his knowledge of the offense given the fact that he's played in each spot so often in this system.

The only team I know of that leaves their receivers in the same spot pretty much every down is Indy.
 

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How CAN anyone know what they are doing? They don't put the pads on all week, then they skip the walk throughs. I mean, how the heck can anyone know what they are doing?

We need a HC who knows how to be a HC.
 
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