Introducing the Worked-Shoot Era of WWE

[Cowboy Brian]

If the Klic stuff comes back then I'd look for an eventual match between HBK and Punk. They laid the ground work for that a while back when Punk, leading the New Nexus, interrupted an HBK promo.

So I would definately be up for an HBK/Punk deal. That would be awesome.

Only way they are getting my money back. & it better be a feud over the title

 

[Ren]

Only way they are getting my money back. & it better be a feud over the title

Putting HBK in a title feud would be just as stupid as making Cena/Rock a title match. Even if he comes back he's not gonna be around so they would have to give it to Punk killing any possibilities of it being exciting

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Only way they are getting my money back. & it better be a feud over the title

I think the feud will eventually happen. I could see HBK doing some feuds here and there to help elevate talent. I don't know, actually I don't believe to be honest with you, that it will have anything to do with the title when it happens.

The reality is that an HBK/Punk feud doesn't need the title in it for it to be hot and important. They can use the title on someone elses program, that will need the belt in it to make it work, while HBK and Punk can work magic without a strap involved.

 

[zrinkill]

Only way they are getting my money back.

Still waiting .......

 

[zrinkill]

The reality is that an HBK/Punk feud doesn't need the title in it for it to be hot and important. They can use the title on someone elses program, that will need the belt in it to make it work, while HBK and Punk can work magic without a strap involved.

Agreed ......

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Putting HBK in a title feud would be just as stupid as making Cena/Rock a title match. Even if he comes back he's not gonna be around so they would have to give it to Punk killing any possibilities of it being exciting

Or HBK could retire the belt. That'd be something!

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I think the feud will eventually happen. I could see HBK doing some feuds here and there to help elevate talent. I don't know, actually I don't believe to be honest with you, that it will have anything to do with the title when it happens.

The reality is that an HBK/Punk feud doesn't need the title in it for it to be hot and important. They can use the title on someone elses program, that will need the belt in it to make it work, while HBK and Punk can work magic without a strap involved.

HBK still deserves a final run as champion, & I want to see it happen.

 

[zrinkill]

Putting HBK in a title feud would be just as stupid as making Cena/Rock a title match. Even if he comes back he's not gonna be around so they would have to give it to Punk killing any possibilities of it being exciting

This ......

 

[big dog cowboy]

Still waiting .......

Don't hold your breath.


:laugh2:

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Or HBK could retire the belt. That'd be something!

Ehhhh....retire it for what? Then have just the World championship or the WWE championship (Depending on which one you've got them working with at the time)?

I don't see that really happening and honestly there is no reason for it to happen. Very few guys ever retire as the champion, Edge being an immediate exception due to physical reasons.

I really don't see HBK ever even agreeing to such a thing. In the late 1990's, sure, because he was greedy for himself in a lot of ways and would have done it then as an F-U to all the guys who hated him.

Now HBK is much more mature, a better person, and I highly doubt you'd ever talk him into doing such a thing. He's a pro.

HBK still deserves a final run as champion, & I want to see it happen.

Perhaps he does. I'm not against an HBK run I'm simply saying at this point and time the guy doesn't need it and he knows it. HBK could come back 100 times in the next 20 years and NEVER win another match and you know what? He'll still be over. He'll still be huge. He'll still be thought of as one of, if not the, greatest superstars of all time.

That's the magic of being that guy in wrestling. And by that guy I don't just mean HBK I mean any and all who have that status.

Hogan, Foley, Austin, The Rock, HBK, HHH, Flair (and I wish he'd have learned this about 5 or 6 years ago for sure) are all guys who could come in and never win again, never do anything but put younger guys over, and it would never tarnish or hurt their legacy.

That's why when it comes time for Punk and HBK you won't be seeing HBK winning any titles and you'll be seeing Punk win out in the 'money' match in the end. Because HBK knows his place, knows he's where he can do anything he wants to help put someone else over, and will do it.

He's proven it over and over again for the last 5+ years. It's one of the major reasons he is thought of in that best ever platue.

 

[zrinkill]

Retiring as Champion for any reason other than health issues is considered very bad taste in the wrestling world.

Guys on the way out are supposed to work for the next generation, for the good of the business.


I am surprised PWI experts do not know that.

:laugh2:

 

[zrinkill]

PWI's (they are never wrong I have heard) Top 500 Wrestlers Of 2011 - Top 10 Revealed (plus number 24 : )

1. The Miz
2. Randy Orton
3. John Cena
4. Kane
5. Takashi Sugiura
6. Alberto Del Rio
7. Mr. Anderson
8. Rey Mysterio
9. Eddie Edwards
10. CM Punk
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24. AJ Styles


Looks like what I predicted came true again.

Hilarious ....... I cannot wait to see what is said if ADR is ranked higher than Styles

 

[DallasGirl50]

No Angle? Uh ok....

 

[zrinkill]

No Angle? Uh ok....

He was 18.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Very interesting list. I'm not surprised, really, by any of the rankings.

 

[DallasGirl50]

He was 18.

18? Ugh..to me he's the best working currently. In ring work I mean. I do not consider him the best performer though...and much is "performance".

 

[TellerMorrow34]

18? Ugh..to me he's the best working currently. In ring work I mean. I do not consider him the best performer though...and much is "performance".

If they'd ever let him go back to be the goofy heel, like he once was in WWE, then he could be big in the performance area too. Kurt is golden on the mic and can be downright funny.

 

[zrinkill]

Very interesting list. I'm not surprised, really, by any of the rankings.

I am surprised Kane is that high ...... just because he never gets a lot of respect from the Marks.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I am surprised Kane is that high ...... just because he never gets a lot of respect from the Marks.

Ignorance.

Much like Taker I've always really respected Kane because he does his job, does it pretty well, and you don't ever hear about him complaining, pissing, moaning.

He's a complete professional as well.

 

[zrinkill]

Ignorance.

Much like Taker I've always really respected Kane because he does his job, does it pretty well, and you don't ever hear about him complaining, pissing, moaning.

He's a complete professional as well.

I agree ......