Irvin to have 7am Wed press conference - Video in post 113

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He mentioned drinking as reason he couldn’t remember. Period.
and like I just told someone else....he never once said he was drunk, and Id bet my life those witnesses will testify he wasnt drunk. You guys try to act like his brief words to some reporter were like being cross examined under oath.
 

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And you say this when you've just gotten through stating what the accuser should or shouldn't have been offended with regarding touching on the very same page of this thread? Or better yet, on what was said where no one even knows what is claimed to have been said? Wow, bro. How do y'all do this and then turn around and say something completely opposite only a few posts later?
you keep saying "No one knows," what was said..... stop saying that. It is not a fact no on eknows what was said.


Yes, I can say noboy shold be offended by someone touching your elbow, but I can accept the fact some people can be offended by that. Then I would say if you were offended, you should have left the conversation, not stayed there laughing with him for another 45 seconds. I can say that as someone that is going to be like a juror that will have to decide this case.... and if that video shows what was described today, there i sno way Id be siding with the lady that was so disturbed by Irvin's actions.... again, I can say that as a person that has interactions with people.

What I can not say is what it is like to have things of people approach you every day at every location you go to for the past 30 years. So thats how I can say those things.
 

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Well he said he had been drinking and didn’t remember talking to anyone and going straight to his room. So yeah you can imply that. He even jokingly implied it. Not saying he did what he was accused of but it’s there
again.... some of you take his interview with some reporter about this incident as like it was in some court room. This is some jovial tye interview... Mike kind of laughing about the whole thing, kind of like friends would say... hey, yea I had a few...LOL, CHUCKLE, LAUGH. Hardly the seriousness that you would be telling that story if you were under oath in a court room.

If this goes to court, you can guarantee that those witnesses will be asked if Irvin appeared to be drunk, if he had trouble walking outside to take pics, if he slurred his speech at all when they spoke with him.
 

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This is why we have lawyers... I had a few drinks and I was drunk are two different things. You think the witnesses will testify if Mr. Irvin was "Drunk," if this goes to court?
Do we know for certain the inappropriate behavior was against this employee which reported it?

So much we still don’t know about the employee , their position with Marriott and the content of the complaint.
 

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and like I just told someone else....he never once said he was drunk, and Id bet my life those witnesses will testify he wasnt drunk. You guys try to act like his brief words to some reporter were like being cross examined under oath.
Man oh man. Dude, the word drunk is irrelevant. Michael himself said he drank enough alcohol that it impaired his ability to remember the conversation. Try to elevate and follow the pertinent info.
 

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Man this thread is weird ...... from Irvin being drunk or not........ to Irvin calling a press conference for no reason ....... to posters calling the girl a virgin nun to a pirate hooker ...... to a Cowboyszone mod hating the best WR the Cowboys ever had and calling him mush mouth.


weird.
 

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So here is more information of the motion filed by Irvin's attorney and the response by Marriott just today:

IRVIN'S MOTION FILED TODAY
So among the things in here, Irvin got all the reports and other things the judge ordered including written reports and witness statements on Monday. The video was a scheduled viewing at a law office within a 3-hour window on 3/7 where Irvin's team could view it, and no more than 3 people were permitted (letter to them was dated 3/3). Irvin's lawyer also claims that while there Marriott's folks told them there was more video that they were not allowed to see. Irvin's lawyer also asserts that Marriott has also already shared a copy (not a viewing) with a 3rd party (the NFL). The motion also says if Marriott was concerned about accuser/guest privacy, they could seek a protective order on the video before handing over a copy.
MARRIOTT'S RESPONSE TO IRVIN'S MOTION TODAY
Marriott says they invited Irvin to see the video and he refused yet claimed he couldn't see it today at the press conference. Marriott stated that they didn't allow copies to be made of the video because the judge told them in his order they could take "reasonable measures" to protect accuser's identity. Marriott's lawyer says they reached out to Irvin's team several times about conferring with Marriott to provide a copy to Irvin's team or the NFL under a protective order (citing Irvin's lawyer's very mention of a protective order above) and Irvin's team ignored them and filed their motion today to coincide with their press conference. They claim they complied with the order which didn't say a copy was required to be provided (the order says "produce") and actually cites several cases (one by this same judge Mazzant) stating that production is ordered only when a party refuses to allow inspection - and that Marriott allowed inspection here. They close by saying if they have to produce a copy, they want to do it under a protective order only for use in the case with no public disclosure allowed.
So this is interesting that Irvin's team has all the reports of the incident and Marriott's witnesses' accounts but didn't mention what the allegation was exactly, especially as to any words exchanged. Just today Irvin's lawyer said that they didn't know who the accuser was or what Irvin was accused of "until just yesterday" but didn't specify what that was exactly at this press conference while he and Mike asserted that Marriott isn't telling anyone what Mike is accused of. Wouldn't the reports they received show that along with witness accounts? And why didn't they say what it was if they now know? Irvin's team also says the NFL has a copy of the video but Marriott seems to indicate the NFL doesn't have a copy and would only give out copies under a protective order. Both parties debate Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to interpret in their favor, of course.
 
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Man this thread is weird ...... from Irvin being drunk or not........ to Irvin calling a press conference for no reason ....... to posters calling the girl a virgin nun to a pirate hooker ...... to a Cowboyszone mod hating the best WR the Cowboys ever had and calling him mush mouth.


weird.
Weird indeed. Just goes to show, In the morning they yell hosanna, Later on they yell CRUCIFY. Mike never came off as the most eloquent brother in the world, but mush mouth ? He'll never see the post from this person

but I wish he and indeed ALL players would see the post. They do indeed turn on you quick, it's like they lay in wait.
 

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Do we know for certain the inappropriate behavior was against this employee which reported it?

Is it possible this employee was Mgmt Staff or Security personnel who was reporting Irvin’s behavior ?

This might explain a more cordial encounter with Irvin that ended with a handshake. And it’s also possible the alleged inappropriate behavior didn’t happen on this encounter?

So much we still don’t know about the employee , their position with Marriott and the content of the complaint.
Given that the hotel showed Irvin's lawyer the video, it would imply that the interaction in the lobby is the one in question.

That said, it would be interesting if Marriott knew that was not the video where it happened so they only resisted showing it as a stall or diversionary tactic.
 

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Did the lying female go to jail for making those kids' lives hell??
Of course not. The DA wasn’t interested in justice being meted out. He was interested in furthering his career.

Thank God the boys had the means to get excellent attorneys and sue Durham County and other entities. The DA was disbarred and given a sentence as I recall……of course that doesn’t happen these days with the current 2 tier justice system
 

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So here is more information of the motion filed by Irvin's attorney and the response by Marriott just today:



So this is interesting that Irvin's team has all the reports of the incident and Marriott's witnesses' accounts but didn't mention what the allegation was exactly, especially as to any words exchanged. Just today Irvin's lawyer said that they didn't know who the accuser was or what Irvin was accused of "until just yesterday" but didn't specify what that was exactly at this press conference while he and Mike asserted that Marriott isn't telling anyone what Mike is accused of. Wouldn't the reports they received show that along with witness accounts? And why didn't they say what it was if they now know? Irvin's team also says the NFL has a copy of the video but Marriott seems to indicate the NFL doesn't have a copy and would only give out copies under a protective order. Both parties debate Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure to interpret in their favor, of course.
They close by saying if they have to produce a copy, they want to do it under a protective order only for use in the case with no public disclosure allowed.
to protect the accuser, I guess from us, the public who might try and do something to her lol.

So reading this means "we" may never see this video, and it makes sense now why they dont want to release the video or copies, it is for court only.
 

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you keep saying "No one knows," what was said..... stop saying that. It is not a fact no on eknows what was said.


Yes, I can say noboy shold be offended by someone touching your elbow, but I can accept the fact some people can be offended by that. Then I would say if you were offended, you should have left the conversation, not stayed there laughing with him for another 45 seconds. I can say that as someone that is going to be like a juror that will have to decide this case.... and if that video shows what was described today, there i sno way Id be siding with the lady that was so disturbed by Irvin's actions.... again, I can say that as a person that has interactions with people.

What I can not say is what it is like to have things of people approach you every day at every location you go to for the past 30 years. So thats how I can say those things.
Ah, the ole “they should have acted this way” routine.

Brilliant.
 

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They close by saying if they have to produce a copy, they want to do it under a protective order only for use in the case with no public disclosure allowed.
to protect the accuser, I guess from us, the public who might try and do something to her lol.

So reading this means "we" may never see this video, and it makes sense now why they dont want to release the video or copies, it is for court only.
It is perfectly understandable why they would want to protect the identity of their employee. First, she is an employee of theirs so they probably don't want her career ruined especially if they don't feel she did anything wrong. Second, you can take a look at some of these posts over the last few weeks and see what happens to any woman who comes forward with claims like these. There are people calling her every name in the book without knowing anything about her and wanting her (and I quote) sued into poverty, life destroyed etc. Yes of course there are women that have made false claims, but there are also myriads of women who are terrified to come forward because they see what happens to anyone who tries to take on rich and powerful abusers. It's why this judge agreed with protecting her identity. It's common practice.

It's funny - for all the accusations that she's just another ho trying to make money out of this there is literally not a single indication of that. In fact it's quite the opposite she seems to be trying very hard to remain anonymous. But of course her little life is not important we have to "save the Playmaker".

On that note we're hearing a lot about her possible delayed reaction being an indicator nothing happened and she's lying. What about Irvin's delayed reaction? 3 days after this went down he was hiding out and sounded rather calm and sheepish. Weeks later he's crying and angry and talking like he's in To Kill A Mockingbird. I suppose he's allowed to have a delayed reaction because once again he's the Playmaker
 

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Irvin played it exactly the way it needed to be played and guaranteed Marriott is quacking with his take, it’s the last look that they want! Well played Mr Michael Irvin!
 

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It is perfectly understandable why they would want to protect the identity of their employee. First, she is an employee of theirs so they probably don't want her career ruined especially if they don't feel she did anything wrong. Second, you can take a look at some of these posts over the last few weeks and see what happens to any woman who comes forward with claims like these. There are people calling her every name in the book without knowing anything about her and wanting her (and I quote) sued into poverty, life destroyed etc. Yes of course there are women that have made false claims, but there are also myriads of women who are terrified to come forward because they see what happens to anyone who tries to take on rich and powerful abusers. It's why this judge agreed with protecting her identity. It's common practice.

It's funny - for all the accusations that she's just another ho trying to make money out of this there is literally not a single indication of that. In fact it's quite the opposite she seems to be trying very hard to remain anonymous. But of course her little life is not important we have to "save the Playmaker".

On that note we're hearing a lot about her possible delayed reaction being an indicator nothing happened and she's lying. What about Irvin's delayed reaction? 3 days after this went down he was hiding out and sounded rather calm and sheepish. Weeks later he's crying and angry and talking like he's in To Kill A Mockingbird. I suppose he's allowed to have a delayed reaction because once again he's the Playmaker
So evidently a couple of palms were touched and a couple of elbows were touched. Is that the reason why someone would be told to move out of a hotel and be prevented from working? Maybe Irvin said something to the girl. Since when do words cause so much damage to a normal human being That a person again has to be fired from his job? The girl at some point has to come forward and advise what the problem is.
 

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Given that the hotel showed Irvin's lawyer the video, it would imply that the interaction in the lobby is the one in question.

That said, it would be interesting if Marriott knew that was not the video where it happened so they only resisted showing it as a stall or diversionary tactic.
My take on it is that they dont want any video being released for public consumption.
This is to protect their employee, and why they havent given her name.
Protect from what? Well the crazy people out there who might do something to her.
That makes sense to me , they want this all to take place in court in private.

The one thing I thought of is since they did send a copy to the nfl, and they pulled irvin so quickly, that their may indeed be something
on a video of him doing or saying something inappropriate.
If there wasnt why would they pull him so quickly? Evidently there was something ol Goodell didnt like on it.

I think if they had given irvin team the video they would have shown it to public, which is what they dont want for above reasons.
But at same time if nothing bad on it why would they care, and if there was then irvins team would not show that would they?
Best to just let it all play out and see what happens, as we may never see the video.
 

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My take on it is that they dont want any video being released for public consumption.
This is to protect their employee, and why they havent given her name.
Protect from what? Well the crazy people out there who might do something to her.
That makes sense to me , they want this all to take place in court in private.

The one thing I thought of is since they did send a copy to the nfl, and they pulled irvin so quickly, that their may indeed be something
on a video of him doing or saying something inappropriate.
If there wasnt why would they pull him so quickly? Evidently there was something ol Goodell didnt like on it.

I think if they had given irvin team the video they would have shown it to public, which is what they dont want for above reasons.
But at same time if nothing bad on it why would they care, and if there was then irvins team would not show that would they?
Best to just let it all play out and see what happens, as we may never see the video.
That's up to the judge, not them. You assume the video was sent to the NFL. Where's your source on that?
 

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My take on it is that they dont want any video being released for public consumption.
This is to protect their employee, and why they havent given her name.
Protect from what? Well the crazy people out there who might do something to her.
That makes sense to me , they want this all to take place in court in private.

The one thing I thought of is since they did send a copy to the nfl, and they pulled irvin so quickly, that their may indeed be something
on a video of him doing or saying something inappropriate.
If there wasnt why would they pull him so quickly? Evidently there was something ol Goodell didnt like on it.

I think if they had given irvin team the video they would have shown it to public, which is what they dont want for above reasons.
But at same time if nothing bad on it why would they care, and if there was then irvins team would not show that would they?
Best to just let it all play out and see what happens, as we may never see the video.
Her identity WILL come out so that whole protecting our employee crap is just that
 

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That's up to the judge, not them. You assume the video was sent to the NFL. Where's your source on that?
If they sent the video to the NFL, that sounds very much shaky as regards legality.
 
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