Irving Set To Become Breakout Player

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He might be involved in a bit of violence against women, but he really does it in a way we can live with, so that's nice.
He's harder on Stop signs than women... who he only smacks around a little bit.
 

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Nobody has a choice. FO is gonna roll with what they've got. All we can do is sit back and hope for the best. I will admit that this off-season has been quite disappointing.
 

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Countless des breakout of nowhere, Irving and Tapper have the talent to do that. Just have to hope atleast 1 of irving, tapper, russell, or mayowa break out.
 

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The upgrade from Hayden to Thornton is fantastic.
Its going to be amazing to see a guy who actually commands a double team, Hayden was always 1 on 1 and Crawford was double teams constantly. Will be nice to see Thornton eating up space in the middle.
 

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He might be involved in a bit of violence against women, but he really does it in a way we can live with, so that's nice.

I read all about it, at least her side, and I just don't care. Sounds like two immature people acting like jackholes. No big deal to me.
 

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im going to say charles tapper is the guy who changes this front 4 for dallas. this guy wouldve been a round 1 talent if he played anywhere else but oklahoma, their scheme costed this kid millions

But at least it didn't costed him a college education. So there's that.
 

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Not even close. Especially inside.

Thornton is out of shape and Crawford isn't anything special plus he's coming off an Injury and is now dealing with a back issue. No proven de's either. Dlaw had a decent half year last year and is coming off a bad back injury and is suspended. I don't know what you're talking about?!
 

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40 inch vertical at 285 is elite athleticism. He was almost there several times in limited snaps last year. Hopefully the year working will make the difference.
 

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Not just technique. It is an innate ability to get leverage at his length... or more precisely, a knack for not losing the leverage battle even though his arms and height puts him at a disadvantage in the leverage department. His length gives him some natural advantages but that is typically offset by difficulties caused by losing the leverage battle. In Irving's case, he has the benefits of his length but unlike most, he is able to also maintain leverage. It allows him to get in the backfield better than most.

I wouldn't call him a JAG last year... I think our definitions for JAG probably vary. He showed a lot more promise than most DL rookies... much less for one we poached off of a practice squad (although he would have been drafted without the off field questions).

Anyway, our opinions just differ here. I have higher hopes for him than you do but that doesn't mean I'll be right about that. As is usually the case pro football personnel... time will tell who is right.

I hope I am.

It's not about having higher hopes. It's about understanding probabilities here.

He certainly has the talent to be very good but the probabilities are that our expectations for him should probably be a bit more tempered.
 

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Haha, this is exactly why I have some people on ignore. Same **** in every thread, come in with their "reality checks" but they simply want to be contrary.

It's a freakin' prediction, geniuses. Not set in stone, prediction. Everyone picks one every year, whether it's said out loud or not. Why do these simple things need to be explained lately? What is happening here?
 
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