Is Bill Parcells the NFL's best coach?

theebs

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wayne_motley;1178206 said:
NO...he's certainly not.

If we are sitting here at 5-5, he's just another guy who has improved some talent but is nearing retirement.

We're 6-4, and this question is being asked???

LIke the team in general, great props for winning a huge game, but a ridiculous question in my mind.

Take his career out of it, and going only on the team we've seen this year and the fact that he put it together, I'm not sure I'd even have him in my top 5.

Win the superbowl with this team, and it's still unlikely he'll get coach of the year....it's a very talented team that has underachieved till last Sunday...imo.

well coach of the year has nothing to do with it.

Mike Nolan is going to run away with that, or at least he should and mangini should be second, but nolan without question is the coach of the year.
 

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People can argue all they want about is Parcells the NFL best coach or not but in the end he is a HC who will one day be in the Hall Of Fame and in my opinion has done a great job of getting this franchised turned around from a big mess that we were in not long ago. Myself I love having a coach like Parcells running this team
 

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theebs;1178208 said:
well coach of the year has nothing to do with it.

Mike Nolan is going to run away with that, or at least he should and mangini should be second, but nolan without question is the coach of the year.

has nothing to do with it????

That award is usually for the guy who is the best coach during a particular year, isn't it?
 

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theebs;1178208 said:
well coach of the year has nothing to do with it.

Mike Nolan is going to run away with that, or at least he should and mangini should be second, but nolan without question is the coach of the year.

I think Payton may be in the running and would not be suprised to see him win it. He not only took over a poor saints team but he got rid of any player who did not want to be on that team and replaced them and now has NO winning that division. If I had a vote on coach of the Year Payton would be the guy
 

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Stautner;1178195 said:
All NFL coaches are involved in draft and FA decisions - as is the GM. The GM typically defers to the coaches on talent and concerns himself with whether an acquisition makes financial sense. Make no mistake, however, Jerry Jones is right in the middle of these decisions as well.

Of course all coaches are involved but not to this degree. Just ask Marty S who wanted to keep Brees or Jeff Fisher (who has almost no say). I would be willing to bet Jerry gets about 1 of his guys a year (like TO this yr) and that the draft and undrafted FA's are almost exclusively Bill's calls. The turnaround in acquiring talent is too dramatic to say anything other than Bill calls the shots.
 

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Yep , he's the best in the league . No doubt in my mind . More importanly there is no doubt in his players minds . Just ask Tony Romo . He said that Bill put together a brilliant plan against the Colts last week , and the media should never doubt him .

Now all the couch coaches can rewind their Tevo and relive there highschool championship days all they want , but they still have no idea what goes on in practice , in the film room , and on the sidelines . His ex players say he's the best coach in the league , his current players think he's the best coach in the league and in the end that's all that really matters .

Being a great coach isn't always about your winning % ! It's about having players believe in you so much that they will follow you through the gates of hell if you tell them the best thing to do . Right now I think Parcells could convice these guys to sneak through the gate and thump Satan on the *** !
 

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Parcells has made some questionable decisions during his tenure, but I have continued to support him in spite of some strong arguments (Juke99, Iceberg, and others) to the contrary. But if we are talking about Parcells being the best coach in the NFL right now, I think that's debatable. You've got Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren, and certainly Belichick to think about. Mike Shanahan is no coaching slouch either.

Based on the overall career of the active coaches, I think one would have to have to go with Parcells, Belichick, or even Joe Gibbs. While Belichick hasn't had a lengthy Head Coaching tenure, his three SB Championships elevates his status. I'll go w/ Parcells overall because he has turned around four different franchises along with his two SB wins. Plus I'm biased.
 

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ZeroClub;1178204 said:
He was the best coach in the league this past Sunday.


And if he continues to string these kind of performances together through February 4th, he'll be the undisputed king.

And if we drop one to the Bucs he'll be the worst.

For one thing I dont think a person can prove who the best coach is in the first place and for another thing I dont know if it really matters if you have the best (or something close to it) coach or not in this day and age of the NFL anyway.

I'm not sure what the goal of any team can be other than to get to the Show to give yourself a chance to take home the trophy.

But look at some of the coaches that have gotten that far in the last number of years. Martz, Billick, Fassel, Callahan, Gruden, Fox, Reid.. etc

That make all those guys top coaches? Then throw in the fact that many of them couldnt even get their teams back to .500 the following year.

Or BP.. takes a rag-tag outfit to 10-6 the first year... which most would argue was pretty miraculous.. only to become decidedly mediocre ever since even though the talent has got progressively better. Did he go from a genius to a stooge in one off season?
 

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Waffle;1178216 said:
Parcells has made some questionable decisions during his tenure, but I have continued to support him in spite of some strong arguments (Juke99, Iceberg, and others) to the contrary. But if we are talking about Parcells being the best coach in the NFL right now, I think that's debatable. You've got Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren, and certainly Belichick to think about. Mike Shanahan is no coaching slouch either.

Based on the overall career of the active coaches, I think one would have to have to go with Parcells, Belichick, or even Joe Gibbs. While Belichick hasn't had a lengthy Head Coaching tenure, his three SB Championships elevates his status. I'll go w/ Parcells overall because he has turned around four different franchises along with his two SB wins. Plus I'm biased.

Mostly what I was thinking was as a gameday coach, which surprisingly is what people have seemed to take issue with. (IMO, because they take the blanket of coaching to lay the blame at, ignoring players performance on the field. When players are put in position to make plays and don't, that's not coaching) But I see every year the Cowboys do something no other team can do. Stop Steve Smith. Stop LT. Stop Alexander. Stop the Colts. That's good coaching. Great coaching. Add to it the stamp he has put on in building the team, and I don't think anyone is clearly better. It's all speculative and subjective, of course, just my two cents.
 

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I think he's one of the best coaches ever, and that wouldn't have changed if Dallas hadn't beat the Colts. The guy knows what buttons to push to motivate his players, and he consistently takes bad situations and makes them good.

While I'm thinking about it, one of the my biggest pet peeves is when I hear someone compare Parcells record in Dallas to Dave Campo. Parcells has been twice the coach that Campo was according to the record, and he's rebuilt the team in the process. There is absolutely no comparison.
 

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Best Xs and Os coach only? Probably not. Bellchick is probably better. Best game day coach only? Holmgren is probably better. Best overall coach as far as the Xs and Os, finding talent, game day, psychologically preparing the team, building an organization for the future and putting it back on track to winning? I can't think of anyone who is better.
 

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theebs;1178203 said:
so his past doesnt factor in?

I mean your precious gibbs gets all his respect from his past.

if i was factoring in his recent past, he would move down a notch on my scale, numbnuts. as it is, he is doing a very good job currently, which happens to be superpunks question.

and who is talking about gibbs? i could have sworn we were talking about parcells....
 
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