Is Bledsoe a Hall Of Famer?

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VT Played what 20 seasons to get 44,000. He also led the NFL in Interceptions and never won a Championship Game.

Bledsoe has won two AFC Championship games. Those aren't Big games?
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Drew Bledsoe is not a Hall of Fame Quarterback. I cant even name a year that he played where you could definitely say, yeah he is the best quarterback in the game.

The Hall of Fame is for the very ELITE players of their time. The Best of the Best and Drew Bledsoe is not there.

Good Quarterback, but not a GREAT quarterback.

This isnt even a question that warrants any thought...

- Mike G.


I agree with you completely, don't think it's close.

He would have to put up some mighty dominant play towards the end of his career here to even have a shot.

In other words Bledsoe would have to play like someone other than Bledsoe to get in ... the very definition of not being deserving of that honor.
 

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if he keeps playing like the first game, yes he will make it regardless of whether we actually win the Lombardi or not. his numbers will be too hard to ignore if he continues for a couple more years.
 

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It is very simple IMO. If Drew Bledsoe can win a Superbowl here in Dallas he should (with the stats he has for the rest of his career) be a shoo in to the HoF. If he does not win a Superbowl he will never make it. He doesn't have the single season stats of a Dan Marino to put him over the top but his lifetime stats are more than respectable. He led his team to one Superbowl and come off the bench to win the Championship game and put them in another. He is on the verge of making it to the HoF and a SB win should put him over the top.
That's my feeling, too. If Bledsoe's career were to end today, then no, he isn't in the HoF. But what he does here in Dallas is key. If he wins a Superbowl here, then he's a lock to get in. If he gets close, but continues to put up big numbers, he's real borderline.
 

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Nors said:
VT Played what 20 seasons to get 44,000. He also led the NFL in Interceptions and never won a Championship Game.

Bledsoe has won two AFC Championship games. Those aren't Big games?

I don't know how you could let a guy like Jim Kelly in and then not let Bledsoe in. He owns all the passing records in Buffalo and he was only there for 3 yrs.
 

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da_boyz_mk said:
i posted this in the buy or sell thread but haven't gotten a response yet

He's been to a super bowl helped another team get there..thrown for over 40,000 yards and still has a couple of good seasons in him...

so what do ya'll think....is drew a hall of fame caliber QB? :star:
If his career were to end right now I'd say he is on the bubble. By the time he does retire if he hasn't been relegated to the bench for several years I'd say his chances are pretty good. A Lombardi would help.
 

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Cowchips said:
I don't know how you could let a guy like Jim Kelly in and then not let Bledsoe in. He owns all the passing records in Buffalo and he was only there for 3 yrs.


It's easy. Kelly had an 84.4 passer rating over his career and Bledoe's is 77.

That is a huge difference in passing efficiency.

Plus Kelly got his team into 4 straight SB's.

Cowpie you are such a homer.
 

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Modern Day QB's in the HOF vs Drew Bledsoe:

Terry Bradshaw- No comparison
John Elway- No comparison
Dan Fouts- Didn't win a SB but he was MVP; led the league in passing ydg four consecutive seasons; AFC player of the Year; 6 time pro bowl player and simply a great great passer...to a degree, he revolutionized the modern passing game.
Bob Griese- 2 time super bowl winner;
Jim Kelly- Better numbers in nearly every category; In 11 seasons he lead the Bills to the playoffs 8 times; unprecedented consecutive 4 Super Bowl appearances; at the time of his retirement his career QB rating was the 6th All Time...and 2nd among Hall of Fame QB's
Dan Marino- no comparison
Joe Montana- no comparison
Roger Staubach- no comparison
Fran Tarkenton- when he retired, he owned every significant passing record; 9 pro bowls; 3 Super Bowl appearances
Steve Young no comparison


With the exception of Fouts, these guys has multiple super bowl appearances AND outstanding numbers.

The only one on the list without great career stats is Griese..but his two super bowl wins and I think, 9 winning seasons, put him in the Hall.

The other thing to remember, these guys all had better career ratings than Bledsoe, some in an era when a rating of 80 was exceptionally good.

Read the above list outloud and at the end, add Bledsoe's name...and then sing that song "Which one of these is not like the other? Which one of these doesn't belong?"

He had a great first game here. I wish people would relax.
 

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Juke99 said:
Modern Day QB's in the HOF vs Drew Bledsoe:

Terry Bradshaw- No comparison
John Elway- No comparison
Dan Fouts- Didn't win a SB but he was MVP; led the league in passing ydg four consecutive seasons; AFC player of the Year; 6 time pro bowl player and simply a great great passer...to a degree, he revolutionized the modern passing game.
Bob Griese- 2 time super bowl winner;
Jim Kelly- Better numbers in nearly every category; In 11 seasons he lead the Bills to the playoffs 8 times; unprecedented consecutive 4 Super Bowl appearances; at the time of his retirement his career QB rating was the 6th All Time...and 2nd among Hall of Fame QB's
Dan Marino- no comparison
Joe Montana- no comparison
Roger Staubach- no comparison
Fran Tarkenton- when he retired, he owned every significant passing record; 9 pro bowls; 3 Super Bowl appearances
Steve Young no comparison


With the exception of Fouts, these guys has multiple super bowl appearances AND outstanding numbers.

The only one on the list without great career stats is Griese..but his two super bowl wins and I think, 9 winning seasons, put him in the Hall.

The other thing to remember, these guys all had better career ratings than Bledsoe, some in an era when a rating of 80 was exceptionally good.

Read the above list outloud and at the end, add Bledsoe's name...and then sing that song "Which one of these is not like the other? Which one of these doesn't belong?"

He had a great first game here. I wish people would relax.
Nice post. If Bledsoe makes it it will be the same as Vinny, because of his career numbers. Some will look at them and nothing else.
 

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Hostile said:
Nice post. If Bledsoe makes it it will be the same as Vinny, because of his career numbers. Some will look at them and nothing else.


The guys on that list who made it because of their numbers had OUTSTANDING numbers...Marino...Tarkenton...Fouts...Kelly (plus 4 SB appearances)

Bledsoe simply isn't in that class.

And even if he put up huge numbers with the Cowboys and won two super bowls, he wouldn't get voted in because he's a Cowboy. ;)
 

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He'll have to win two Super Bowls in order to get in the Hall of Fame.

He was never really considered one of the top quarterbacks of his era. And he's never been considered a winner.

Hopefully, he changes that this year.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
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Hey Mick...

Bledsoe had a great first game.

Most athletes, in whatever sport, always settle into their career numbers.

The situation might be different here, although he did exhibit the same tendencies which have always gotten him into trouble in the past.

It would be nice to give him at least 4-5 games before we start talking about Drew Bledsoe in the Hall of Fame. :eek:
 

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tyke1doe said:
He'll have to win two Super Bowls in order to get in the Hall of Fame.

He was never really considered one of the top quarterbacks of his era. And he's never been considered a winner.

Hopefully, he changes that this year.


Excellent comment.

That's another thing those other guys all had in common. They were all considered the top guys in their era.
 

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Juke99 said:
Hey Mick...

Bledsoe had a great first game.

Most athletes, in whatever sport, always settle into their career numbers.

The situation might be different here, although he did exhibit the same tendencies which have always gotten him into trouble in the past.

It would be nice to give him at least 4-5 games before we start talking about Drew Bledsoe in the Hall of Fame. :eek:

Yes sir. I was an anti-Bledsoe guy and my stomach is all empty and ready to eat that bowl full of crow. But I aint even looking at that bowl until at least 5-6 games have been played.

After that, I will totally admit I was wrong about the guy which it seems I was.

But noway if he retired today would he sniff the Hall of Fame. I would say the only QBs playing today that are probably locks are Peyton Manning (his numbers are through the roof), Brett Favre and Tom Brady (he just needs to stick around a little longer).

- Mike G.
 

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It was either espn or nfl net, they showed qbs who have passed for over 40,000 yards. Everyone on the list were hofamers except two and those two aren't eligible yet. <scratch that, Favre was also on the list but they considered him a shoe in of course> Bledsoe and Testaverde.
 

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speedkilz88 said:
It was either espn or nfl net, they showed qbs who have passed for over 40,000 yards. Everyone on the list were hofamers except two and those two aren't eligible yet. Bledsoe and Testaverde.


So are you suggesting that Vinny is going into the Hall of Fame?
 

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Juke99 said:
Hey Mick...

Bledsoe had a great first game.

Most athletes, in whatever sport, always settle into their career numbers.

The situation might be different here, although he did exhibit the same tendencies which have always gotten him into trouble in the past.

It would be nice to give him at least 4-5 games before we start talking about Drew Bledsoe in the Hall of Fame. :eek:


Well said.

This is the same nonsense that was going in Buffalo the first 8 games of the 2002 season as Bledsoe was tearing up the league.

"Bledsoe is great"
"Bledsoe for the HOF"
"Bledsoe is God"

Funny thing is you didn't hear any of that stuff after the last 8 games were played in '02. ;)
 
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