Is Bledsoe a Hall Of Famer?

[SkinsandTerps]

Warren Moon is NOT in the HOF. And he has over 49,000 career passing yards.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Warren Moon is NOT in the HOF. And he has over 49,000 career passing yards.

And he was one of the best "pure passers" I've ever seen. Marino, Fouts, Moon, Manning... just fantastic passers. Bledsoe doesn't hold a candle to any of them.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Yep. Juke, Mick and Miki have it right. Right now, Bledsoe isn't even close.

 

[Juke99]

Warren Moon is NOT in the HOF. And he has over 49,000 career passing yards.

Great point.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

And he was one of the best "pure passers" I've ever seen. Marino, Fouts, Moon, Manning... just fantastic passers. Bledsoe doesn't hold a candle to any of them.

I agree and I agree with your list of QBs too. We must be around the same age.

Those guys in the pocket were amazing.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I agree and I agree with your list of QBs too. We must be around the same age.

Those guys in the pocket were amazing.

Turned 43 in August. Hey Bledsoe is a good QB. Not great... not upper echelon, but good. He's better than most but he's not the passer any of those guys are or were.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And he was one of the best "pure passers" I've ever seen. Marino, Fouts, Moon, Manning... just fantastic passers. Bledsoe doesn't hold a candle to any of them.

Well, I agree with this. There have been some fine passers down through the years that are not in the HOF.

 

[Nors]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/FoutDa00.htm

Fouts only had 4000 yard seasons 3x as has Drew.
All Pro's will be similar
Bad TD/Inter rating
Never won anything


Similar player - who benefitted from serious weapons.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/FoutDa00.htm

 

[Cowchips]

It's easy. Kelly had an 84.4 passer rating over his career and Bledoe's is 77.

That is a huge difference in passing efficiency.

Plus Kelly got his team into 4 straight SB's.

Cowpie you are such a homer.

And friggin' lost all 4!!!

 

[Nors]

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=161


Namath gets in - Bledsoe wins a SB he deserves in. This guy completed only 50 % of his passes and threw more interceptions than td's.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=161


Namath gets in - Bledsoe wins a SB he deserves in. This guy completed only 50 % of his passes and threw more interceptions than td's.

Nors, even Jets fans will tell you that Namath doesnt deserve to be in the Hall.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

And friggin' lost all 4!!!

It's not all about "team" accomplishments in order to get into the Hall.

The fact is that Kelly is light years better as a QB than what Drew is. It's not even close.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/FoutDa00.htm

Fouts only had 4000 yard seasons 3x as has Drew.
All Pro's will be similar
Bad TD/Inter rating
Never won anything


Similar player - who benefitted from serious weapons.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/FoutDa00.htm

You have to take into consideration the rules changes here. Fouts did these things at a time when the passing game was no where near as easy to execute. Regardless, hes not in. Bledsoe will have to win a championship or two in order to secure a spot IMO.

 

[Nors]

You have to take into consideration the rules changes here. Fouts did these things at a time when the passing game was no where near as easy to execute. Regardless, hes not in. Bledsoe will have to win a championship or two in order to secure a spot IMO.

Fouts is in.

Namath is too!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=161


Namath gets in - Bledsoe wins a SB he deserves in. This guy completed only 50 % of his passes and threw more interceptions than td's.

Namath is in because of his win over Baltimore. Not saying it's right or wrong. Just saying the criteria in which he was selected will not come again. There can only be one first time and he was it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/FoutDa00.htm

Fouts only had 4000 yard seasons 3x as has Drew.
All Pro's will be similar
Bad TD/Inter rating
Never won anything


Similar player - who benefitted from serious weapons.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/FoutDa00.htm

Come'on Nors give me a break. Trying to compare numbers from the 70's to the passing numbers of today is very difficult. Fouts numbers look very good for any era but give him some extra benies for what he did during that time period and Fouts blows Bledsoe right out of the water. Dan Fouts could deliver two passes in the time it takes Bledsoe to deliver one.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Danny White was a better QB than Bledsoe.

 

[Juke99]

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=161


Namath gets in - Bledsoe wins a SB he deserves in. This guy completed only 50 % of his passes and threw more interceptions than td's.

Nope...sorry...Namath is an entirely different situation.

He was as responsible as anyone for the merger after the Jets win over the Colts in SBIII

Taking a look at his stats..yep, more int's than TD's..yep, he didn't complete 50%.

No West Coast offense back then. Take a look at his yds per pass attempt...take a look at his receivers yds per catch..heck, he had TE's averaging 18 yards per catch.

And more importantly, look at those stats within the era he played. Look at his contemporaries, they were all around 50% completion percentage. 55% was considered high. Different era. The AFL was a wide open league...Lamonica...Hadl..Namath... THey all had pretty bad QB ratings. It was a different game.

In fact, Namath threw downfield so often, that the Jets used that against the Colts in the superbowl. The Colts were SO aware of the deep ball that Namath threw once to a lame Don Maynard, who somehow had beaten Lennie Lyles...and for the rest of the game, he picked apart a Colts zone defense that was petrified of Namath's long game.

 

[STSINAZ]

no way he gets in

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Nope...sorry...Namath is an entirely different situation.

He was as responsible as anyone for the merger after the Jets win over the Colts in SBIII

Taking a look at his stats..yep, more int's than TD's..yep, he didn't complete 50%.

No West Coast offense back then. Take a look at his yds per pass attempt...take a look at his receivers yds per catch..heck, he had TE's averaging 18 yards per catch.

And more importantly, look at those stats within the era he played. Look at his contemporaries, they were all around 50% completion percentage. 55% was considered high. Different era. The AFL was a wide open league...Lamonica...Hadl..Namath... THey all had pretty bad QB ratings. It was a different game.

In fact, Namath threw downfield so often, that the Jets used that against the Colts in the superbowl. The Colts were SO aware of the deep ball that Namath threw once to a lame Don Maynard, who somehow had beaten Lennie Lyles...and for the rest of the game, he picked apart a Colts zone defense that was petrified of Namath's long game.

Nors really doesn't understand the game if he thinks you can compare stats from that era to the stats of this era.