Is Dak Prescott's contract actually that bad

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Great, another Dak contract thread. :rolleyes: I remember at least a couple of threads asking the same question after his first extension. I’m sure the responses will be the same. lol
 

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Great, another Dak contract thread. :rolleyes: I remember at least a couple of threads asking the same question after his first extension. I’m sure the responses will be the same. lol
Of course they'll be the same

Why change your opinion when it's clearly accurate?
 

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In terms of overall QB play this season the top 15 list would arguably look something along the lines of:

Lamar Jackson
Josh Allen
Jared Goff
Jayden Daniels
Joe Burrow
Jalen Hurts
Patrick Mahomes
Justin Herbert
C J Stroud
Kyler Murray
Sam Darnold
Baker Mayfield
Kirk Cousins
Jordan Love
Matthew Stafford

A few quarterbacks can be moved around here and there plus there's a case for the likes of Purdy and Williams to be in the top 15 but in general, it's not an outlandish list.

The point being Dak Prescott is no where to be seen within the top 15 quarterbacks in the league this season and for good reason.

Realistically going forwards with the likes of Caleb Williams and Bo Nix likely to improve a whole lot more and even accounting for say Darnold, Mayfield and Cousins struggling to back up their form into next season and the potential of Stafford and/or Rodgers retiring, do people really see Prescott getting himself into the top 10 ranked quarterbacks next season?

In terms of big name quarterback contracts on the horizon how many are there? Purdy at the end of this season, C J Stroud likely in 2026 and perhaps Josh Allen at some point during that period to restructure his contract given he's only in the low 40s at this time and to spread the cap hit of his next contract with the Bills.

Other than that there are not too many more before Prescott's contract will be up for renewal again - perhaps his will be a year after a bunch of the top 10 guys. The point being that when we look back at the highest earning quarterbacks over the 9 years prior to Prescott's current contract expiring, he will have likely been either the highest earner or at least a top 3 earning QB over those 9 years! Astounding really given the horrific ROI in terms of relevant performance to the team winning important games against good teams. It also completely blows out the water the ridiculous notion/assertion that, "his contract will be around the 15th highest paid quarterback in a year or two" - no it will not!

I am very interested to find out how much Purdy is offered by the 49ers. I do not think it will be $60+ million a year. I think he will take a commercial view and be pleased to take a bit less to stay and play for a good team rather than earning more on a bad team. In those circumstances, I wouldn't be surprised if he accepted around $50 million a year. But who knows, the 49ers might be the next team to massively overpay for a solid NFL starting quarterback. Again, it is noticeable that his overall use and performance is increased when he scrambles and moves to acquire first downs or extend plays which leads me to my next point...

My final observation is that of the above top 10 ranked NFL quarterbacks in the league this season, only Goff lacks mobility. The other 9 can all move at will to extend plays and rush for a much needed first down. Same rules apply to the young quarterbacks coming through like Love, Nix and Williams. If you are planning to pay top dollar to a quarterback then surely they require some mobility in the modern NFL? If not then pay them around the $45-$50 million range to compensate for that to facilitate the payment of two stud running backs like Montgomery and Gibbs or draft a stud RB in the first round like Robinson...

Whichever way people try to dress it up, the latest Dak Prescott contract looks to have been an awful progress stopping decision and one that will kneecap the team for several years to come.

Fair play to him though as he will have brought in $400+ million over 9 years - Jerry must be in a whole world of pain right now!
Look at the same list, same criteria last year when we actually had talent, or the year before
 

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Of course they'll be the same

Why change your opinion when it's clearly accurate?
An opinion is a judgment, not necessarily based on a fact or knowledge. To say the majority of the opinions given here by fans are accurate, is silly. The entire board is littered with Dak haters. Their opinion of him is he sucks. That gives you an idea of the ineptitude you’re dealing with on this board.
 

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Mayfield makes some bad decisions. Decisions that lead to INT's.

Im rooting for him as the comeback kid. But he is not near Dak or above Dak in QB play whatsoever.

He's an INT waiting to happen.
 

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An opinion is a judgment, not necessarily based on a fact or knowledge. To say the majority of the opinions given here by fans are accurate, is silly. The entire board is littered with Dak haters. Their opinion of him is he sucks. That gives you an idea of the ineptitude you’re dealing with on this board.
You are dealing with it also, so if it's so bad, why you here? Just to vetch about other posters? smfh
 

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It was not bad last time either, but Jerry restructured it and kicked the can down the road making it an albatross. He is sooner or later going to have a large dead cap hit because of it. The uneducated will blame Dak for it.
I think he’s hoping, that the league compensate for it. They raise the cap line. Which basically washes it out.
 

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An opinion is a judgment, not necessarily based on a fact or knowledge. To say the majority of the opinions given here by fans are accurate, is silly. The entire board is littered with Dak haters. Their opinion of him is he sucks. That gives you an idea of the ineptitude you’re dealing with on this board.
Of course opinions are judgments. With regards to Dak's contract and whether he is worth it or not, the two options for opinions are either yes he is, or no he isn't.

At this point anyone still defending his contract should receive a lifetime irreversible ban for purposeful stupidity and/or deceit
 

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Mayfield makes some bad decisions. Decisions that lead to INT's.

Im rooting for him as the comeback kid. But he is not near Dak or above Dak in QB play whatsoever.
Good luck convincing that to the bozo’s that stagger around these fan boards like a bunch of drunks. Some of them are so lost they get ignored but continue to carry on like a bobble head. I’ve had plenty of debates with fans who would love Baker Mayfield over Dak, despite the issues he’s having on a much better team. He’s been part of the reason the Bucs are riding a 3 game losing streak.
 

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Of course opinions are judgments. With regards to Dak's contract and whether he is worth it or not, the two options for opinions are either yes he is, or no he isn't.

At this point anyone still defending his contract should receive a lifetime irreversible ban for purposeful stupidity and/or deceit
Those who keep complaining about his contract should receive a lifetime irreversible ban, so we don’t have to put up with their complaining anymore. He got paid the market rate, just like Trevor Lawrence who continues to lose games into his fourth season. Dak’s been extended and there’s nothing anyone can do about it but deal with it.
 

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Mayfield makes some bad decisions. Decisions that lead to INT's.

Im rooting for him as the comeback kid. But he is not near Dak or above Dak in QB play whatsoever.

He's an INT waiting to happen.
Gun to my head and have to choose I'm probably taking Dak, but I'm not sure the difference is very much. Dak has been just as turnover prone as Baker this year. Yes Baker started off the year with a better WR group than Dak who really only had Lamb and Ferg, but that WR group has been decimated the last several weeks which has been the issue with Baker. Ultimately give either of these guys weapons and they'll perform pretty well, neither is going to carry a team on their back.
 

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Those who keep complaining about his contract should receive a lifetime irreversible ban, so we don’t have to put up with their complaining anymore. He got paid the market rate, just like Trevor Lawrence who continues to lose games into his fourth season. Dak’s been extended and there’s nothing anyone can do about it but deal with it.
Just don't click on the Dak contract threads if it bothers you that much. There are probably 4-5 posters who truly hate Dak and will never say a good word about him, just hit ignore and move on. There have been threads on trading Lamb, cutting Steele, cutting Diggs, etc. Yes Dak is the most common talking point, but it's OK for people to have different opinions. Really if you drown out the extreme emotional viewpoints on both sides there is some really good conversation on the topic.
 

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Those who keep complaining about his contract should receive a lifetime irreversible ban, so we don’t have to put up with their complaining anymore.
I dont blame you for this opinion. If I had defended the decision to reset the market for this clown, I wouldn't enjoy being regularly reminded of how wrong I was either.

But you were wrong. And we're going to continue to remind you how wrong you were and how wrong you continue to be.

Guess you'll just have to deal with it.
 

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I dont blame you for this opinion. If I had defended the decision to reset the market for this clown, I wouldn't enjoy being regularly reminded of how wrong I was either.

But you were wrong. And we're going to continue to remind you how wrong you were and how wrong you continue to be.

Guess you'll just have to deal with it.
If you’re referring to me, I never said I wanted him to reset the market. I don’t like any of these QB contracts. It’s become ridiculous, especially with a salary cap. The problem was if we didn’t pay him, he would have reset the market with another team. I know a lot of fans were hoping for that but with all the many holes the Cowboys have, they would be in an even worse situation with a lesser QB. Argued it many times and don’t care to argue it again.
 

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Just don't click on the Dak contract threads if it bothers you that much. There are probably 4-5 posters who truly hate Dak and will never say a good word about him, just hit ignore and move on. There have been threads on trading Lamb, cutting Steele, cutting Diggs, etc. Yes Dak is the most common talking point, but it's OK for people to have different opinions. Really if you drown out the extreme emotional viewpoints on both sides there is some really good conversation on the topic.
Not sure where you’ve been but there’s a lot more than 4-5 posters that truly hate Dak. There’s a couple fans that are obsessed with bashing him and should seek counseling. Most of this board hates him as our QB. I click threads, regardless if they’re tiring. If they bother me I don’t respond. I’ve had plenty of good conversations on the topic.
 

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If you’re referring to me, I never said I wanted him to reset the market. I don’t like any of these QB contracts. It’s become ridiculous, especially with a salary cap. The problem was if we didn’t pay him, he would have reset the market with another team. I know a lot of fans were hoping for that but with all the many holes the Cowboys have, they would be in an even worse situation with a lesser QB. Argued it many times and don’t care to argue it again.
Fair enough but with regards to the bold we're about to see if the gap between Dak and Rush is as wide as we're told. With the opponents we have upcoming, if the team is anywhere near a .400 winning % with Rush as the starter the discussions are going to get very interesting around here
 

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Fair enough but with regards to the bold we're about to see if the gap between Dak and Rush is as wide as we're told. With the opponents we have upcoming, if the team is anywhere near a .400 winning % with Rush as the starter the discussions are going to get very interesting around here
I’ll be surprised if we win a couple of games with Rush but if we do many fans will be jumping on his bandwagon. I’ve already seen some fans claiming he’s better than Dak. Not sure if they really believe that or they just enjoy stirring the pot. Some fans here just enjoy getting a rise out of everyone. They only come here to get reactions.
 

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Good luck convincing that to the bozo’s that stagger around these fan boards like a bunch of drunks. Some of them are so lost they get ignored but continue to carry on like a bobble head. I’ve had plenty of debates with fans who would love Baker Mayfield over Dak, despite the issues he’s having on a much better team. He’s been part of the reason the Bucs are riding a 3 game losing streak.
I hated on the guy so much coming out of college, not because of his QB play, but because of his 'in your face' hot headedness

I have been rooting for him on this comeback of his, though...

But...I am very uneducated on evaluating QB's, as there is so much little stuff that matter with QB's....but even I can tell that Mayfield falls into the 'gunslinger' category. Its not that he is a gunslinger....its that he is a gunslinger with what appears to be bad vision or bad decision making. I have seen lots of INT's and dropped INT's because of his bad eyes or bad decisions.

Im not saying he cant play in this league. I bet if you put him on Detroit right now he looks really good. He is just a risky guy to have touching the ball every play in a pro-passing sport.

Im rooting for him though
 

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Gun to my head and have to choose I'm probably taking Dak, but I'm not sure the difference is very much. Dak has been just as turnover prone as Baker this year. Yes Baker started off the year with a better WR group than Dak who really only had Lamb and Ferg, but that WR group has been decimated the last several weeks which has been the issue with Baker. Ultimately give either of these guys weapons and they'll perform pretty well, neither is going to carry a team on their back.
Im not saying Baker cant play in this league. Both have good bus driver as their ceilings...but I think Dak's floor is higher because he doesnt throw the ball directly to the other teams player near as much.
 
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