Is Dak the only super greedy QB in Cowboys history?

[SultanOfSix]

subjective adjective (full definition link)
3b : relating to or being experience or knowledge as conditioned by personal mental characteristics or states

objective adjective (full definition link)
1a : expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations


No. I meant subjective.


Bold> In your opinion, does this meet the definition of objective or subjective?

What I’m trying to say is the term subjective applies to things like personal taste, e.g., I think cookies and cream is the best tasting ice cream.

The objective deals with essences or definitions, i.e., concepts, e.g., what greedy actually means, and typically within an applicable context, which makes it relative to it. For example, Dak is a professional NFL QB. It would make no sense to say he is greedy compared to a doctor or engineer. It would make sense if he was hoarding a limited resource that is needed by other people.

You can’t argue about something if you’re equivocating on what words mean.

 

[DallasEast]

What I’m trying to say is the term subjective applies to things like personal taste, e.g., I think cookies and cream is the best tasting ice cream.

The objective deals with essences or definitions, i.e., concepts, e.g., what greedy actually means, and typically within an applicable context, which makes it relative to it. For example, Dak is a professional NFL QB. It would make no sense to say he is greedy compared to a doctor or engineer. It would make sense if he was hoarding a limited resource that is needed by other people.

You can’t argue about something if you’re equivocating on what words mean.

Okay.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

Problem is Jerry.

Why would Dak ask for less than Jerry is willing to pay?

I'll ask for more money at my job if they were as dumb as the Joneses.

 

[Diehardblues]

It is entirely about economics always. The disconnect is between fans and owners' mentality. Fans want accountability based on a merit system. Owners simply see the value of a player as they determine it.

This is why people (not necessarily owners but everyone else) hang on perceptions like Elite status. Let's take Dak Prescott and Tony Romo out of the discussion for a moment. We, non-owners, can ask ourselves questions like:

• Was Daniel Jones ever considered an elite quarterback? Did he deserve a $160 million extension with $92 million guaranteed?
• Was rookie JaMarcus Russell elite deserving $61 million/$29 million guaranteed? (Coincidentally, the owners FINALLY came to grips with this nonsense).
• Was Jordan Poole elite in getting a four-year, $128 million extension?
• Was Chris Davis elite before having seven-year/$161 million deal handed to him?

The above examples and more, across all professional sports around the world, are the reality. The reality is all professional athlete contracts will never correlate with what fans, media, etc., think is fair based on performance and ability.

Why? Because the owners do not think so. Sure, a handful of NFL owners have elite quarterbacks and compensate them enough in order to retain them. Most owners do not. Yet some still compensate their quarterbacks as such.

Why? Because the value they place on their quarterbacks exceeds the performance and ability qualifications judged by everyone else. That is the way it has always been. That is the way it will always be UNLESS the owners AND NFLPA come to a mutual agreement before March 2031 (when the current CBA expires) to change how players (or maybe JUST quarterbacks) are compensated.

I’d agree that none of those mentioned became or were Elite QB’s. And those franchises made the right decisions to move on.

So fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me . Lol

 

[KJJ]

Romo was never the highest paid ever. And was 10x the QB Dak will ever be.

Romo won fewer division titles and the same number of playoff games and you’re saying he’s 10x the QB Dak is? What did we ever win with him? He’s 10x the QB because he was never the highest paid? lol Thanks for the great insight.

 

[IceStar-D7]

Problem is Jerry.

Why would Dak ask for less than Jerry is willing to pay?

I'll ask for more money at my job if they were as dumb as the Joneses.

Who wouldn't? Even the O.P. would. Case closed.....

 

[Pola_pe_a]

Brady was less selfish than Dak. He chose to take less for the chance of more championships.

Brady was getting paid on the side through his TB12 nonsense. NE circumvented the cap for years.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Brady was getting paid on the side through his TB12 nonsense. NE circumvented the cap for years.

Any link to better explain that and that NE was circumventing the cap through the TB12 nonsense?

 

[Pola_pe_a]

Any link to better explain that and that NE was circumventing the cap through the TB12 nonsense?

Basically NE paid TB12 which he was a co-owner of to provide services to the Patriots. The odd part is almost every other team receives money from these companies to be the “official training partner” of a particular team. Also interesting is that as soon as Brady left NE the relationship was terminated. If a training center is so good that you’d be paying for the services as opposed to receiving money to be an official partner why end the relationship as soon as Brady left?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/report-patriots-pay-a-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner/

 

[big dog cowboy]

Romo won fewer division titles and the same number of playoff games and you’re saying he’s 10x the QB Dak is? What did we ever win with him? He’s 10x the QB because he was never the highest paid? lol Thanks for the great insight.

You know.....just because!

 

[ClintDagger]

Brady was less selfish than Dak. He chose to take less for the chance of more championships.

Taking a discount when you know you can win championships is a smart long term decision. Being a Super Bowl winning QB much less a dynasty QB is worth its weight in gold. But no one seems to be considering that maybe Dak doesn’t think he can win no matter how good the cast around him is. Or perhaps he doesn’t want the pressure of a good cast around him. In that case he’d rather hurt the team and maximize his short term earnings.

 

[KJJ]

You know.....just because!

The only argument Jerry could make for adding Romo to the ROH is he helped get him a new stadium. Hard to gain support for a new stadium when you’re missing the playoffs every year. When it’s all said and done Dak will end his career with bigger numbers than Romo and might have more playoff wins.

 

[Jarntt]

Surprise...

What a dumb premise. All players and people are greedy. how many raises have you turned down? Don’t blame Dak for wanting as much as he could get, blame the moron owner for giving it to him.

 

[Buzzbait]

Dak may or may not be the 1st greedy QB for the Cowboys, but he is without a doubt the GREEDIEST qb for the Cowboys. Bar none.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Dak may or may not be the 1st greedy QB for the Cowboys, but he is without a doubt the GREEDIEST qb for the Cowboys. Bar none.

Jerry may or may not be the 1st stupid owner of the Cowboys, but he is without a doubt STUPIDEST owner of the Cowboys.
Bar none.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

What a dumb premise. All players and people are greedy. how many raises have you turned down? Don’t blame Dak for wanting as much as he could get, blame the moron owner for giving it to him.

That begs the question, what is greed? So it is not greedy, wanting as much as you can get, despite any negative effects it might have on the team? I'm not quite sure people understand what greed is...

 

[garyo1954]

Totally a subjective question from where I sit.

You have to take in to account the era. In the 60s Craig Morton was paid the exorbitant amount of $400000 to sign with the Cowboys partly to keep him away from the AFL. That was at a time when most veterans were making five figures.

Then there is the non cap years where player salaries skyrocketed and rookies who had never played a snap were getting millions.

Now we have the cap years where everything is wack by greed by the owners and players

 

[cowboyfan4life2]

Brady was getting paid on the side through his TB12 nonsense. NE circumvented the cap for years.

Plus is wife at the time was getting paid more than him.

 

[Runwildboys]

Ultimately it’s Jerry’s fault. No one in the league would have given Dak that deal. There was zero reason to max him out. Also QB salaries have gotten out of hand. They need a couple more Watson like deals to blow up to learn their lessons. It shouldn’t be a pull to one number it should be merit based.

Apparently, meritocracy is a dirty word around here.

 

[Runwildboys]

By page 15, this has devolved into one of the worst threads ever created.