Is Drew Bledsoe "Good Enough"

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Doomsday101 said:
Get a clue, every QB who plays the game will make poor reads and throw ill timed ints. Bledsoe is also rated as 1 of the top come from behind QB's in the game.

But...only against the baddd defenses and that wont get you to the playoffs. Is that clue enough for you?
 

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kartr said:
Bledsoe makes the same poor decisions that inexperienced qb's make after 13 years. If he hasn't gotten it by now, he aint going to get it. Both Rothlesberger and Hasselbeck have decent mobility and use it to bolster their passing skills, Bledsoe has no mobility and is a poor decision maker under fire to boot.
How many INEXPERIENCED QBs are there after 13 years in the NFL. Man you dont even make sense anymore. Your blind hatred for bledsoe has fried your brain.

To call him a poor decision maker is ludicrous. Your an idiot. Flat out.

13 years of doing anything, your NOT inexperienced.

I am thinking you've never heard of 'having a bad game' 'Not seing a corner cause you have 3 Dlinemen in your face'. I mean come on, you can not sit here and say cause that Denver INT Bledsoe is a bad decision maker.

Think about the passes he connected on, Was he just lucky that 60+% of the times, The drops that were on the money. The audibles. Do you even watch the damn games. If you think Bledsoe is making bad decisions you think Bill would let him drive us into the ground.

Wanna talk about bad decisions. Let talk about your boy Carter. Now theres an Einstein. let me think about this. I play QB for the boys, my coach is one of the biggest bad ***** in the league, I am stupid and really need to study 20 hours a day. But let me smoke this joint and snort this line of coke before I go sit with Parcells for 4 hours and watch a movie. Hell he probably brought popcorn to the film sessions.

Get out of here with your fabrications and your one sided blind hatred agenda against Bledsoe. Your making a fool of yourself and your schtick is getting real old and tiring fast.
 

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Drew Bledsoe cannot LEAD a team to the SB...no way. However, he can go along for the ride and certainly contribute. He's just not a guy who will be a difference maker.

The only way the Cowboys win a SB with Bledsoe at QB is if he's surrounded with guys like Emmitt, Irvin, Novachek, and a better line on offense, or if we have a dominating defense.
 

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Guess what- Bledsoe went to the SB with the Pats and that was NOT a great team-a very good one, but not great. So the FACT is that Bledsoe CAN take a team to the SB without it being a great one. Just find it hard to fathom the truly blind hatred some have for the man. Just really stupid.
 

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I am talking about the 96 pats, by the way.

Kartr- Q could not take a team to the SB if his life depended on it.
Not even if he was the bus driver and the stadium was one block away.
He would find a way to screw up- just like any other moronic cokehead.
 

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The only way the Cowboys win a SB with Bledsoe at QB is if he's surrounded with guys like Emmitt, Irvin, Novachek, and a better line on offense, or if we have a dominating defense.

So in other words, he's basically Troy Aikman since once we lost one or 2 of those facets after '95 we were about as mediocre as can be.

;)
 

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DipChit said:
So in other words, he's basically Troy Aikman since once we lost one or 2 of those facets after '95 we were about as mediocre as can be.

;)

That is funny, but I am sure there are some that may actually think that way. I don't see Dallas beating San Francisco in that 92 championship game(the real superbowl that year) if Bledsoe was the QB. Aikman had a great game against the 49ers.
 

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How many INEXPERIENCED QBs are there after 13 years in the NFL. Man you dont even make sense anymore. Your blind hatred for bledsoe has fried your brain.

To call him a poor decision maker is ludicrous. Your an idiot. Flat out.

13 years of doing anything, your NOT inexperienced.

I am thinking you've never heard of 'having a bad game' 'Not seing a corner cause you have 3 Dlinemen in your face'. I mean come on, you can not sit here and say cause that Denver INT Bledsoe is a bad decision maker.

Think about the passes he connected on, Was he just lucky that 60+% of the times, The drops that were on the money. The audibles. Do you even watch the damn games. If you think Bledsoe is making bad decisions you think Bill would let him drive us into the ground.

Wanna talk about bad decisions. Let talk about your boy Carter. Now theres an Einstein. let me think about this. I play QB for the boys, my coach is one of the biggest bad ***** in the league, I am stupid and really need to study 20 hours a day. But let me smoke this joint and snort this line of coke before I go sit with Parcells for 4 hours and watch a movie. Hell he probably brought popcorn to the film sessions.

Get out of here with your fabrications and your one sided blind hatred agenda against Bledsoe. Your making a fool of yourself and your schtick is getting real old and tiring fast.

Excuse the typo. I meant that he makes the same kind of mistakes that inexcperienced qb's make, and he has 13 years of experience. Carter has nothing to do with Bledsoe's mistakes. I never even mentioned his name, you did. Maybe its your blind hatred of Carter that makes it hard for you to see that he did more with a lesser talented team and less experience against tougher defenses than Bledsoe played against this year. Carter's on the field mistakes was the result of his inexperience,Bledsoe doesn't have that excuse.
Carter would have continued to develop had been allowed to start in '04, since he improved every year he was in the league, while Bledsoe has not. He's had an up and down, but mostly down career. Carter's off the field mistakes were the result of feeling betrayed by his father-figures who wanted to upgrade the position, while not realizing that Carter was his own upgrade, had been allowed to continue. I think what your really mad about is that Carter won 16 games in 31 starts, while since he's been gone, our more experienced qb's with better supporting casts have only won 15 games out of 32.
 

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burmafrd said:
I am talking about the 96 pats, by the way.

Kartr- Q could not take a team to the SB if his life depended on it.
Not even if he was the bus driver and the stadium was one block away.
He would find a way to screw up- just like any other moronic cokehead.

Childish name-calling doesn't change the fact that he was a playoff qb and Bledsoe is not. Carter has helped 2 teams get to the playoffs recently,while Bledsoe can't get it done. Many people who are far older and wiser than Carter have fallen prey to substance abuse and have been given chances to turn their life around in their respective career. To deny Carter the same opportunity is moronic. But what does it say about Bledsoe, who drug-free,can't get a team to the playoffs, while Carter, drug problems and all, can.:laugh2:
 

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So in other words, he's basically Troy Aikman since once we lost one or 2 of those facets after '95 we were about as mediocre as can be.

;)

At least Troy, knew who not to throw the ball to.
 

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At least Troy, knew who not to throw the ball to.

Are you sure? In his first 3 playoff losses as a starter he threw 3 picks in each of those games. 4 TD's 9 Int's. Make it 4/10 if you want to add the pick he threw in his final playoff game.
 

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I'm working on my statistical analysis of the offense as we speak and I should have it done some time next week. Just briefly looking over the stats so far, Bledsoe's passing numbers were pretty good. And by looking at some O-Line stats and comparing them to the other teams in the NFC East, there's some decent evidence that Bledsoe being sacked 50 times this year had more to do with the O-Line not giving him a chance over him holding onto the ball too long.

From the looks at it, pass protection seems to be the biggest factor in Bledsoe's success. When he gets good pass protection, even without a great running game or superb WR's, he can succeed. I like Terry Glenn, Key, and Crayton, but I wouldn't consider them elite WR's. And while I liked Eric Moulds, Peerless Price showed that he wasn't that good of a WR either. Yet, Bledsoe was able to produce with these WR corps.

The problem is that the O-Line pass protection has to be "good." If it's average, Bledsoe isn't all that productive.

I figure Bledsoe has about 2 good years left in him. If Dallas can build an O-Line that can be good in pass protection and above average in run blocking, I could see Bledsoe having a terrific year.

Rich.......
 

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kartr said:
Bledsoe makes the same poor decisions that inexperienced qb's make after 13 years. If he hasn't gotten it by now, he aint going to get it. Both Rothlesberger and Hasselbeck have decent mobility and use it to bolster their passing skills, Bledsoe has no mobility and is a poor decision maker under fire to boot.

If Roethlisberger had been our QB this year we would not be better than 9 & 7.
 

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But...only against the baddd defenses and that wont get you to the playoffs. Is that clue enough for you?

Carolina and SD were not a bad defensive teams.
 

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kartr said:
Take a good look at that list, Steve McNair is just below Drew and he is on an absolutely terrible team. Looks like McNair will be available in free agency. If McNair can put up similar numbers to Drew on a vastly inferior team, imagine what he could do on this team.

Behind our O line at the moment - get crucified. He has been very injury prone and would be very doubtful to last the season.

Besides Bill trusts Drew . How many QB's out there can we sign that Bill will trust. No trust means an limited playbook.

The biggest turn the Cowboys need next season is to finish the 2nd half of the season strong. They have laid eggs the last three years.

4-4 this season
3-5 2004
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For the first half of the season Bledsoe had good stats. I expect him to improve next year so for the moment he is serviceable.

What do you think is an upgrade in FA or draft wise that can improve the position next season?
 

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Behind our O line at the moment - get crucified. He has been very injury prone and would be very doubtful to last the season.

Besides Bill trusts Drew . How many QB's out there can we sign that Bill will trust. No trust means an limited playbook.

The biggest turn the Cowboys need next season is to finish the 2nd half of the season strong. They have laid eggs the last three years.

4-4 this season
3-5 2004
3-5 2003

For the first half of the season Bledsoe had good stats. I expect him to improve next year so for the moment he is serviceable.

What do you think is an upgrade in FA or draft wise that can improve the position next season?

It's not just the Cowboys as a team that struggles in the second half. Look at Bledsoe's stats for his career. He gets worse almost every year as the season wears on. '05 was no exception. 100+ rating in September, just over 70 in December.
 

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It's not just the Cowboys as a team that struggles in the second half. Look at Bledsoe's stats for his career. He gets worse almost every year as the season wears on. '05 was no exception. 100+ rating in September, just over 70 in December.

If the team struggles then it stands to reason Bledsoe will. If he doesn't slump in the 2nd half of next season and the team does then his play won't make a difference.

As it stands I think Drew gives us our best shot next year ( it's quite hard to type that, but still ). A rookie is not going to be an improvement and what FA QB is? Brooks? Culpepper?
 

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If the team struggles then it stands to reason Bledsoe will. If he doesn't slump in the 2nd half of next season and the team does then his play won't make a difference.

As it stands I think Drew gives us our best shot next year ( it's quite hard to type that, but still ). A rookie is not going to be an improvement and what FA QB is? Brooks? Culpepper?

Rumour has it that McNair could also be available if he doesn't take a pay cut and he has taken a team to the super bowl before and his numbers were slightly worst than Bledsoe's while on a very weak team.
 

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Behind our O line at the moment - get crucified. He has been very injury prone and would be very doubtful to last the season.

Besides Bill trusts Drew . How many QB's out there can we sign that Bill will trust. No trust means an limited playbook.

The biggest turn the Cowboys need next season is to finish the 2nd half of the season strong. They have laid eggs the last three years.

4-4 this season
3-5 2004
3-5 2003

For the first half of the season Bledsoe had good stats. I expect him to improve next year so for the moment he is serviceable.

What do you think is an upgrade in FA or draft wise that can improve the position next season?

Drew threw game changing ints to both Seattle and Denver. As a result we were 9-7 instead of 11-5. Bill's trust is misplaced if he's counting Bledsoe to change his spots. He came here with a rep of underachieving and so far, he's running true to form. I understand how you feel, you want to support your qb,but can Belichek and Mularkey and all the other teams who didn't try to sign him all be wrong.
 

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half the qb's in the nfl are good enough to win if they have enough of a team around them. very,very few are good enough to win without a good team around them. brady and manning are probably the best 2 qb's in the nfl. both will be watching this weekend.if the goal is to find a qb good enough to win on his on then we will be looking for a long time for a qb. brad johnson and dilfer have sb rings. so to say drew is'nt good enough is kinda silly. of course he's good enough just like half the other qb's in the league, if you put enough weapons around them.
 
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