Is Drew Bledsoe "Good Enough"

[Zaxor]

I don't think I have enough years left to wait for Drew to have a come back year. So my answer to the original question is also no. Dallas has won with old guys and Dallas has won with new guys but Dallas will not win with Drew.

Nobody in Dallas at QB will win the SB until the D seasons, we get a play maker at WR and the O-line is renewed. Drew is just another place holder keeping the starting QB spot warm until some one better comes along.

I think that is about the right of it...

 

[Cowchips]

Interesting perspective. Tom Brady average 27-28 touchdowns per year and is great. Drew tosses 20-24 each year and is average or below. I think for Drew to lead Dallas to the promised land 3 things need to happen.

Protection has to improve a bit (give Drew just one more second on average)
Defense has to improve a bit (stop making Santana Moss look like TO)
Kicking game has to improve a lot (find the friggin uprights 90% vs. 40% of the time like good teams do)

A decent kicking game this year and Dallas might be in Detroit this week. With decent kicking, this team would have been 12-4 or even 13-3.

 

[Zaxor]

:laugh2: :laugh2:

whats funny....look if you are ugly and I say you are ugly its not bashing it is the truth

 

[Zaxor]

Interesting perspective. Tom Brady average 27-28 touchdowns per year and is great. Drew tosses 20-24 each year and is average or below. I think for Drew to lead Dallas to the promised land 3 things need to happen.

Protection has to improve a bit (give Drew just one more second on average)
Defense has to improve a bit (stop making Santana Moss look like TO)
Kicking game has to improve a lot (find the friggin uprights 90% vs. 40% of the time like good teams do)

A decent kicking game this year and Dallas might be in Detroit this week. With decent kicking, this team would have been 12-4 or even 13-3.

Brady doesn't have as many negative plays...it is not just about TD's

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Brady doesn't have as many negative plays...it is not just about TD's

Well, it's more compicated than that. You have to wonder about the circumstances around which negative plays happen. Didn't Drew have fewer negative plays early in the season when the OL was better and before Crayton got hurt; versus after these peripheral injuries happened? And isn't Brady out of the playoffs this year because of his negative plays in the last playoff game -which by the way - seemed to happen coicidently with the dropoff in his OL's play?

Look, I'm not trying to argue who is better - Drew or Brady - because Brady has won Championships so let's not compare because Drew has yet to win any. But it's noteworthy to point out that Brady had been with the same team - surrounded by great talent - all these years now, and Drew has not nearly had that same luxury. There's something to be said for the luxury that Brady has had and you do have to wonder how Drew would have done had it been him in NE al these years. Personally, I think he would have won a few rings himself - provided he laso had the refs helping him with the tuck rule and all.

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[AMERICAS_FAN]

Brady doesn't have as many negative plays...it is not just about TD's

Well, it's more compicated than that. You have to wonder about the circumstances around which negative plays happen. Didn't Drew have fewer negative plays early in the season when the OL was better and before Crayton got hurt; versus after these peripheral injuries happened? And isn't Brady out of the playoffs this year because of his negative plays in the last playoff game -which by the way - seemed to happen coicidently with the dropoff in his OL's play?

Look, I'm not trying to argue who is better - Drew or Brady - because Brady has won Championships so let's not compare because Drew has yet to win any. But it's noteworthy to point out that Brady had been with the same team - surrounded by great talent - all these years now and Drew has not nearly had that same luxury. There's something to be said for the luxury that Brady has had and you do have to wonder how Drew would have done had it been him in NE al these years. Personally, I think he would have won a few rings himself - regardless if had the refs helping him with the tuck rule and all.

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[MichaelWinicki]

He's been on teams that were either bad or rebuilding mode in recent years....this past season in dallas, 3 years in Buffalo, and the pre Tom Brady era in New England.

Despite these circumstances he still put up great numbers especially this season in dallas, and 02 in Buffalo he shattered many of Jim Kelly and the K-gun records.

Bledstud is a straight baller, plain and simple.

Give me a friggin break!

In 2004 the Bill's defense was #2 in the NFL. Between the special teams and the defense, they contributed 10 touchdowns to the offense.

And again, Drew Bledsoe couldn't get the team into the playoffs.

Better do a rethink on those "all encompassing" statements.

 

[CowboyManDan]

It all depends on what you want.

Do you want a one year type wonder of a team that maybe has a shot to win one year but could be dismantled the next? Or do you want a longer term option that can improve and grow with the team as the years go by?

Drew Bledsoe is good enough to get a team into the playoffs now.

Drew Bledsoe might be good enough to get a good team into the superbowl. But is old enough to be gone the next season.

Drew Bledsoe is not good enough to carry an offense.

Drew Bledsoe is not young enough to lead a team into the promise land for years ahead.

 

[Nors]

It all depends on what you want.

Do you want a one year type wonder of a team that maybe has a shot to win one year but could be dismantled the next? Or do you want a longer term option that can improve and grow with the team as the years go by?

Drew Bledsoe is good enough to get a team into the playoffs now.

Drew Bledsoe might be good enough to get a good team into the superbowl. But is old enough to be gone the next season.

Drew Bledsoe is not good enough to carry an offense.

Drew Bledsoe is not young enough to lead a team into the promise land for years ahead.

We have not had at QB as solid as Bledsoe since 1998.

Bills were 3-13 before he came and 5-11 after he left.
But that means nothing now Miki

We were 6-10 and jumped to 9-7 and contended with no OLine or running game.

 

[Redball Express]

..it's not that Bledsoe is good enough or not.

Payton Manning, for all his talent, has a team with flaws that may never win it for him. And he's part of the problems with his cap figure so far out in the Milky Way that the Colts may never recover for the next decade.

So that's the issues..it takes a team and coaches that jell at the right time and it doesn't simply boil down to a single position that makes or breaks you.

If it does, then you've got problems that possibly a single player can't fix.

Bledsoe has done everything I've seen Aikman do and some things better. I think we all conveniently forget just how bad Aikman looked in his last 3 years here with nobody to block, run or catch for him.

He was reduced to pedestrian and took a beating which ended his career early.

Bledsoe showed he could produce even under circumstances with no consistant blocking, no running game and a defense that in the second half of the year leaked big plays every other series.

Aikman was not able to do that given similar circumstances. Bledsoe had us on the brink of an 11-5 or 12-4 season until the wheels came off the team at RB, OL, CB and LBer.

I never saw one game where Bledsoe was the reason for a loss. Even in Seattle, Payton or Parcells called for that long pass to be thrown and I don't think Bledsoe should be hung with the total blame for that play.

Frankly, it should never have been called. Period.

So stop with all the Bledsoe questioning and justifying. Frankly, Vinnie last year and Bledsoe this year should have gotten us in the playoffs. They were OK.

It was the rest of the team problems, folks.

Not the QB play.

Do we need to look for Bledsoe's successor..? Sure.

But for now, Bledsoe's play, his cap figure, leadership and his competitive fire and toughness are exactly what any team needs in it's QB.

As my wife always tells me, don't borrow trouble.

Which means don't anticipate problems or imagine them before they even occur.

Bledsoe isn't the problem.

parcellswaterboy

 

[CaptainAmerica]

We have not had at QB as solid as Bledsoe since 1998.

Bills were 3-13 before he came and 5-11 after he left.
But that means nothing now Miki

We were 6-10 and jumped to 9-7 and contended with no OLine or running game.

But answer the original question. Is he good enough to win the ring?

My answer...I wish he was, but no.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

But answer the original question. Is he good enough to win the ring?

My answer...I wish he was, but no.

Exactly.

No-- unfortunately he is not.

 

[dwmyers]

If we build the kind of team that Tuna wants the QB isn't a critical part of the equation. the 1990 Giants team didn't have a QB as good as Bledsoe is now. What is critical is that we build a rock ribbed defense and a solid running game. That would mean (IMO) a focus on the offensive and defensive lines.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If we build the kind of team that Tuna wants the QB isn't a critical part of the equation. the 1990 Giants team didn't have a QB as good as Bledsoe is now. What is critical is that we build a rock ribbed defense and a solid running game. That would mean (IMO) a focus on the offensive and defensive lines.

The keyword is "if".

Right now the defensive line is coming along.

The offensive line combined with the TE's and the FB aren't worth a crap when it comes to blocking... and by the time this unit is rebuilt totally Bledsoe will probably be gone.

 

[Nors]

He's won two AFC Championship games.

He's obviously good enough to win a SB. Will he here - we need to upgrade line and take that shot.


This Miki and New Yorker Ice rockers are getting old. They tried to say he'd be worse than VT and QC. That he too would throw more interceptions than TD's AND WE WOULD SUCK.

WELL, ALL BLEDSOE DID WITH NO LINE , was post the
2nd best career franchise season for TD's and yards.

And we went from 6-10 to 9-7 and contended.

Next year we ratchet up another notch. Gloomers despair!:laugh2: Go cry wolf somewhere else, no one notices you anymore - frauds.

 

[5Stars]

This was a long somewhat interesting/unintersting post...however, the question that should be asked as it stands today;

Can Romo or Henson win a SuperBowl for Dallas? Because if Drew goes down this season, guess what? Those are the guys we have left!

Also, if you think about it, we were a few hairs away, one way or the other, from almost being in the playoffs, or having a worse record, but it was not all Bledsoe that should get total blame. Bledsoe is one of 32 starting QBs in the leaque, so that should at least be accounted for, right? Who else could have the Boyz have gotten?

Maybe we should have stuck with Carter, like Kartr is always bemoaning about?

 

[StanleySpadowski]

He's won two AFC Championship games.

He's obviously good enough to win a SB. Will he here - we need to upgrade line and take that shot.


This Miki and New Yorker Ice rockers are getting old. They tried to say he'd be worse than VT and QC. That he too would throw more interceptions than TD's AND WE WOULD SUCK.

WELL, ALL BLEDSOE DID WITH NO LINE , was post the
2nd best career franchise season for TD's and yards.

And we went from 6-10 to 9-7 and contended.

Next year we ratchet up another notch. Gloomers despair!:laugh2: Go cry wolf somewhere else, no one notices you anymore - frauds.

Although I can't find where anyone predicted it, this team did suck. Unless you consider missing the playoffs a good year.


If the "2nd bets career franchise season for TD's and yards" meant squat why didn't you vote for the leader in both categories when you had the chance in the White/Aikman poll? I guess the 80 to 1 vote meant that people understand that winning QBs are more important than stat ******.



Still think the road to the Super Bowl runs through Dallas??

 

[cml750]

Is Drew Bledsoe "Good Enough"

I don't think he is. I hope I am wrong but I highly doubt we will ever win the big one with him at the helm. Again, I hope I am wrong, because as long as Bill is coach, DB will be our QB. No matter how bad he looks or if we are playing in meaningless games after playoff elimination Bledsoe will be under center.:bang2:

 

[gbrittain]

We have not had at QB as solid as Bledsoe since 1998.

Bills were 3-13 before he came and 5-11 after he left.
But that means nothing now Miki

We were 6-10 and jumped to 9-7 and contended with no OLine or running game.

I simply do not trust Bledsoe. You can show me all the stats in the world and I will agree they are impressive.

Much like many people want to lay the blame on Peyton Manning for the Colts lack of post season success, I do not believe that Bledsoe has "it" and Manning is much better than Drew Bledsoe.

I will admit, I could be and hope to be proven wrong, but in the end I think we will all be lamenting what could have been.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

Give me a friggin break!

In 2004 the Bill's defense was #2 in the NFL. Between the special teams and the defense, they contributed 10 touchdowns to the offense.

And again, Drew Bledsoe couldn't get the team into the playoffs.

Better do a rethink on those "all encompassing" statements.

In 04' the Bills vaunted #2 defense padded their stats against 'juggernauts' the likes of san fran, cleveland, miami(twice),arizona, baltimore, etc ....all teams in 04 that were PATHETIC on offense I might add. How did the Bills defense do this year? The special teams were great last year, but failed to have a stellar showing this season.

To go even deeper, is it any surprise the correlation between teams winning with bledsoe and losing without him?

Amazing that Buffalo went from 9-7 after Studsoe led them to 6 straight must win games, to a pathetic 5-11 without him.

Or how about the Cowboys being 6-10 with trash like Testeverde, then going 9-7 (and very easily could have been 11+ win team) with Bledstud at the helm.

I'd say the proof is in the pudding so to speak....MVP calibur players make the players around them better....just like Drew did this year, and in past years with new england and buffalo.

You Drew haters only see things one way and never give credit to one of the top QB's in the NFL today.