Is it Brock Purdy or the culture?

IrishAnto

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Because those draft picks the 49ers gave up are future draft picks. They have drafted well prior to such a trade while adding key pieces. The 49ers are ALL IN to win now. Very soon they are going to have to pay the Piper.

The Cowboys would be in a much better state had they not missed on so many early round picks the past 7 years. You're absolutely right, Jerry made some very bad contractual decisions and overpaid many times, hence why Amari was cut, along with several other previous starters. It's affecting the team right now.
The Cowboys would be in much better shape if they had a GM who was in danger of loosing his job, if he didn't do a good enough job!
 

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how do we know they are going to have to pay the Piper? That is what the Jones boys want us to believe. They went to the Super Bowl with Kap. They went to the Super Bowl with Jimmy G. And I would not bet against them making a run with Purdy!
Look at the 49ers current roster. Lots of key players are coming up due big contracts.
 

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Cooper Rush won 4 games vs the Bengals, Rams, Giants, and Commodes when our defense and run game were humming.
49ners have a better defense and OLine and run game. They also have better offensive coaches. It's easy to see why Purdy has done well so far.
BTW, the games he played were against TB, Seattle(2x), Raiders, Commodes and Cards. Bunch of average to bad teams.
Well since we play TB in 2 days...I hope we can beat that AVERAGE team with our 40m guy!

P.S. - I promise that statement is not a shot at Dak...it's more of challenging you on the notion that what the 49ers have done with a 7th rookie is not that impressive because of the teams they've faced.
 

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Look at the 49ers current roster. Lots of key players are coming up due big contracts.
Again...the 49ers play by the same rules as every other team in the NFL...and somehow they have managed to build a roster...manage the cap...and make super bowl runs multiple times with multiple guys under center.

People that KNOW football told anyone that would listen exactly what they were going to do when they traveled to Dallas last year for the divisional playoff game. I don't need to repeat what happened. After taking care of us they went on to the NFC championship game and fell 3 points short of going to the Super Bowl AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! But somehow...with all the contracts coming due...they are back.

So I ask you...what evidence do you have that they are not aware of what contracts are coming due and don't have a vision of how they are going to manage going forward? We are so accustomed to being WARNED by the Jones boys of the cap...that we take them at their word and accept that lack of roster improvements as the only way to do business in the salary cap era!
 

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SMH. You forgot to mention the 49ers are loaded with weapons, veteran players proven in recent playoffs, a very good Oline, excellent receiving weapons, top 3 overall TE, excellent RBs and the #1 overall Defense. That's not including having one of the best coaching staffs in the league. Then you add their easy schedule and super weak division. They SHOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND DOING WELL since they are one of the top 3 overall loaded and experienced teams.

Totally different for the Cowboys. It's an unfair comparison and expectations. 49ers QBs would not be performing as well with what we've got Dak surrounded with. They are by far better loaded, managed and have recent playoffs experience.

Oh, by the way, the culture here in Dallas is pretty bad. It goes to the players' heads thanks to all of the media and hoopla.
Dallas is loaded with weapons! Dallas has McCarthy and yes Shanahan they could of had if Jerry were listening to me on these forums. Dallas could of gone out and traded for Roquan Smith or some other big name defender. The big difference right now between these two teams is they are getting the same production if not better out of a rookie QB that Dallas is getting out of Dallas 40 mil a year QB.
 

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Again...the 49ers play by the same rules as every other team in the NFL...and somehow they have managed to build a roster...manage the cap...and make super bowl runs multiple times with multiple guys under center.

People that KNOW football told anyone that would listen exactly what they were going to do when they traveled to Dallas last year for the divisional playoff game. I don't need to repeat what happened. After taking care of us they went on to the NFC championship game and fell 3 points short of going to the Super Bowl AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! But somehow...with all the contracts coming due...they are back.

So I ask you...what evidence do you have that they are not aware of what contracts are coming due and don't have a vision of how they are going to manage going forward? We are so accustomed to being WARNED by the Jones boys of the cap...that we take them at their word and accept that lack of roster improvements as the only way to do business in the salary cap era!
BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE WELL WITH THEIR DRAFTS AND NOT OVERPAYING THEIR PLAYERS.
 

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Dallas is loaded with weapons! Dallas has McCarthy and yes Shanahan they could of had if Jerry were listening to me on these forums. Dallas could of gone out and traded for Roquan Smith or some other big name defender. The big difference right now between these two teams is they are getting the same production if not better out of a rookie QB that Dallas is getting out of Dallas 40 mil a year QB.
I felt Bobby Wagner should have been in Dallas this year. It would have done wonders for this defense...and Micah in particular
 

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You might be right....they discarded Jimmy G....a guy that took them to the Super Bowl...and that took them to the NFC title game the following year
If any QB did that here, he'd be a hero and Jerry would sign him to a long term contract.
 

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Dallas is loaded with weapons! Dallas has McCarthy and yes Shanahan they could of had if Jerry were listening to me on these forums. Dallas could of gone out and traded for Roquan Smith or some other big name defender. The big difference right now between these two teams is they are getting the same production if not better out of a rookie QB that Dallas is getting out of Dallas 40 mil a year QB.
What a bunch of hogwash. 49ers are loaded. We're not. Compare the rosters...
 

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You might be right....they discarded Jimmy G....a guy that took them to the Super Bowl...and that took them to the NFC title game the following year
This is because anything but winning the superbowl is not good enough for them. Nobody's saying they're gonna win it more times than us. But they're try alot damn harder than we do, that much is certain. Not saying our guys aren't giving it all on the field. But that "all" seems to be very limited when it matters the most unfortunately.

But still. One game at a time. Beat TB and we'll go from there. Don't beat them and another season was just wasted.
 

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Again...the 49ers play by the same rules as every other team in the NFL...and somehow they have managed to build a roster...manage the cap...and make super bowl runs multiple times with multiple guys under center.

People that KNOW football told anyone that would listen exactly what they were going to do when they traveled to Dallas last year for the divisional playoff game. I don't need to repeat what happened. After taking care of us they went on to the NFC championship game and fell 3 points short of going to the Super Bowl AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! But somehow...with all the contracts coming due...they are back.

So I ask you...what evidence do you have that they are not aware of what contracts are coming due and don't have a vision of how they are going to manage going forward? We are so accustomed to being WARNED by the Jones boys of the cap...that we take them at their word and accept that lack of roster improvements as the only way to do business in the salary cap era!
In Dallas the focus is not how to build a team actually able to win an SB, but to manage the Cap and too many on this board now swallow that mantra.
 

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You know why you can discard a QB that took you to the Super Bowl? Because they people evaluating the roster know full well what Jimmy G is and what he is not. And they decided that he was not good enough.

The people evaluating the roster in Dallas would build a statue outside for ANYBODY that takes them to the Super Bowl...they would finally...after 30 years....be able to say that Jimmy was not the reason for those trophies in the 90s. And they would be WRONG!!!!!!!!

The people evaluating the roster in Dallas are clueless. If they knew what they have...they would have NEVER let the Dak situation get to 40 plus million a season. And I am not a Dak basher or lover. I just call it like I see it!
Excellent post! THIS is the key point and why we're doomed for at least a few more years unless the hit on a couple/few more defensive studs in the draft.
 

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This is the main difference. Look at how many people here think that a 12-5 or even two such seasons mean something. It doesn't and never did. Look at how Jerry is satisfied when his team is "relevant"... in the news. I guess he never meant play offs.

The culture is toxic over here. Even if they beat Brady, it would only the beginning. Anything but a SB win after all those years is simply not good enough. That's why I won't give a rat's arse about regular season stats anymore. Dak is NOT a top 5 QB just because he's leading a high scoring offense. Once he does something in the play offs, as in MAKE A FRIGGIN DIFFERENCE, and a couple of times I mean, then I'll consider him top whatever. Right now he's just a pretender, no matter how many 30 yarders he brought home during the reg season.

This goes for alot of other players and the coaches too of course. Show, don't tell.
There is not a single human being on this planet who thinks radio Dak is a top 5 qb. Even Dak himself.
 

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I didn't use to be that way. This town and fanbase was HARD on Danny White. Why? Because championships were the standard. Danny White went to three straight NFC Championship games and that was not good enough!!!
I remember which is why they tried to replace him with Gary Hogeboom which was a mistake but fans demanded a lot more back then. So did the organization.
 
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