Is it Brock Purdy or the culture?

[duane33]

I don't think its fair to these guys to just completely dismiss their play just because they have a good team. Purdy is playing well. Do I think he'd play as well on a team with a OC not as good as Shanahan like Kellen Moore? No. I think he'd probably struggle and be inconsistent here. He benefits from Shanahan's playbook and playcalling. BUT, that doesn't mean people could just slide in and do what he does because Trey Lance didn't look this good despite being in the league a year. So I guess the answer is maybe BOTH. Purdy looks good. And may actually be a good QB. Time will tell.

SF using play action is huge. Brady is the best at it. Moore ought to call more play action with a weak pass protecting O line like we have

 

[Nova]

How do y'all wake up so angry on a Sunday morning lol?

This overly negative thread has been fun so far.

It’s like we’re Chargers fans this morning.

 

[shabazz]

A little of both. I saw Purdy composed in the pocket and go through ALL his progressions and hit the 3rd option. That’s a very good sign for a short time starter and most rookies dump it too early EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE TONS OF TIME IN THE POCKET

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

No, Jerry made the right decision. He used Amari's $20+ million to resign a couple of other starters. His failure was banking on lesser talent to make up for Amari's loss.

Again...he can gamble to think an injured Gallup would replace Cooper because if it doesn't...not big deal...it would be just 28 straight years without....

First of all...ANYBODY with a football brain...let alone the GM of a NFL franchise knew Gallup would not be ready by the start of the season...and ANYBODY with a football brain knew that the best we should expect from Gallup returning the same year he tore his ACL was about 60% of what Cooper (lazy or not) could provide. But again...Jerry the gambler would look like a genius if it worked out...and if it didn't....there are no repercussions.

 

[mahoneybill]

SMH. You forgot to mention the 49ers are loaded with weapons, veteran players proven in recent playoffs, a very good Oline, excellent receiving weapons, top 3 overall TE, excellent RBs and the #1 overall Defense. That's not including having one of the best coaching staffs in the league. Then you add their easy schedule and super weak division. They SHOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND DOING WELL since they are one of the top 3 overall loaded and experienced teams.

Totally different for the Cowboys. It's an unfair comparison and expectations. 49ers QBs would not be performing as well with what we've got Dak surrounded with. They are by far better loaded, managed and have recent playoffs experience.

Oh, by the way, the culture here in Dallas is pretty bad. It goes to the players' heads thanks to all of the media and hoopla.

Niners Montana team had a similar easier road to division

 

[baltcowboy]

SMH. You forgot to mention the 49ers are loaded with weapons, veteran players proven in recent playoffs, a very good Oline, excellent receiving weapons, top 3 overall TE, excellent RBs and the #1 overall Defense. That's not including having one of the best coaching staffs in the league. Then you add their easy schedule and super weak division. They SHOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND DOING WELL since they are one of the top 3 overall loaded and experienced teams.

Totally different for the Cowboys. It's an unfair comparison and expectations. 49ers QBs would not be performing as well with what we've got Dak surrounded with. They are by far better loaded, managed and have recent playoffs experience.

Oh, by the way, the culture here in Dallas is pretty bad. It goes to the players' heads thanks to all of the media and hoopla.

San Francisco actually has been disappointing since going to the Super Bowl in 19. They have had multiple years of top 5 draft picks and has built the most powerful roster in the NFL. They have failed in free agency and busts at some of their top 5 picks. It’s almost scary to think if maybe they drafted Surtain, Slater, or Parsons in the 21 drafted or if they picked Mahomes in 17. The media protects Shanahan and the 49ers organization. The Cowboys have overachieved the last two seasons if you realistically look at our roster. Let’s just say if our coaches have done what Shanahan has done since he was in San Francisco, there would be Super Bowl or bust mandate on them.

 

[noshame]

4 things to make a solid NFL QB
1 at least an average NFL arm.
2 above average accuracy
3. Intelligence
4. System that fits/coaching
There are other intangibles like pocket presence. Romo was one of the best, Dak is, well, not.

You can find this guy in the first 2 rounds, or later, in fact we may have had one here recently. Guess who?

 

[IrishAnto]

Uhhh, they both fall hand in hand. If you want to worship the 49ers, by all means, create a thread in the NFL Zone and worship them there to your heart's delight.

Did I create the thread?

 

[IrishAnto]

Their record on 2nd round picks isn't nearly as bad as people want to suggest. Trevon Diggs, Sam Williams, Kelvin Joseph, Trysten hill, Connor Williams, Chido, Jaylon, Randy Gregory, Demarcus Lawrence.....

Hill, Joseph and Jaylon were reaches that shouldn't have been taken. Gregory, Chido and Connor played well enough to be to expensive to retain. Lawrence and Diggs have been All Pro's.

That success rate is probably as good or as bad as the rest of the league is in the 2nd round.

The problem is, if you don't acquire good free agents you can't afford to miss on ANY 2nd round pick.

 

[Cmac]

SMH. You forgot to mention the 49ers are loaded with weapons, veteran players proven in recent playoffs, a very good Oline, excellent receiving weapons, top 3 overall TE, excellent RBs and the #1 overall Defense. That's not including having one of the best coaching staffs in the league. Then you add their easy schedule and super weak division. They SHOULD BE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND DOING WELL since they are one of the top 3 overall loaded and experienced teams.

Totally different for the Cowboys. It's an unfair comparison and expectations. 49ers QBs would not be performing as well with what we've got Dak surrounded with. They are by far better loaded, managed and have recent playoffs experience.

Oh, by the way, the culture here in Dallas is pretty bad. It goes to the players' heads thanks to all of the media and hoopla.

Are you saying SF is immensely more talented than the 'Boys? I can't even name the 49er WRs/TE (we know Kittles). I can't even name the RBs (before McCafferty). It's the CULTURE. They are more physical and quicker than our D. And their coaching beats our's by a landslide. And please don't mention injuries, as the excuse. SF just plugs & play.

 

[mahoneybill]

All Jerry cares about is that we are relevant. Winning titles ended long ago for him.

Very true. Protect the brand , and figure that will suffice if it appears we are getting better. Fan since the 60’s so have seen it all and how Murchinson let Tex S and Gil Brandt cpupled with Landry lead us out of semi contenders to the first SB ‘s and multiple playoff and NFC championships......

JJ struck it rich with Jimmy, the triplets and then thought it was him and we have suffered ever since.

 

[mahoneybill]

Are you saying SF is immensely more talented than the 'Boys? I can't even name the 49er WRs/TE (we know Kittles). I can't even name the RBs (before McCafferty). It's the CULTURE. They are more physical and quicker than our D. And their coaching beats our's by a landslide. And please don't mention injuries, as the excuse. SF just plugs & play.

Physical and fast the Jimmy Johnson formula

 

[Cmac]

Physical and fast the Jimmy Johnson formula

Yep.....ball hawks that aren't making business decisions.

 

[nightrain]

Its both: The 49ers have a solid mix of talent and coaching, so Purdy does not have to be Trevor Lawrence out there. But to not give props to Purdy for his poise, pocket awareness, accuracy and aptitude to play in Shanahan's system would be unfair. The kid is good and will be their starter next year.

 

[Streifenkarl]

You barely joined, and you're talking ish? Facts break your heart? Talk tough but can't handle some truth. Go worship Amari in Cleveland.

Man, give it up already. Even on his worst days Amari would have been better than any receiver on this squad from #2 down. And the millions of his salary just wouldn't have mattered this season. It was a crap move, because they dumped him for a 5th. And every action they took regarding the receiving corps this season made this trade look even worse and the responsible people even dumber. And that's that. Now go tell me to follow Cleveland as well, that's all you do anyway... telling other fans to get lost when you don't like their opinions. Pathetic.

 

[mahoneybill]

SF using play action is huge. Brady is the best at it. Moore ought to call more play action with a weak pass protecting O line like we have

Also,quick,hitter slants with guys on the move. Passes in 2 seconds. I count 1000 1 / 1000 2 that approximates the time. Dark at times has 3-4 and still is holding onto the ball.

Watch Brady in this game , he will be in the 2 range on the majority of his passes

 

[MyFairLady]

Are you implying that Bossman Fat doesn't belong on an NFL roster?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Man, give it up already. Even on his worst days Amari would have been better than any receiver on this squad from #2 down. And the millions of his salary just wouldn't have mattered this season. It was a crap move, because they dumped him for a 5th. And every action they took regarding the receiving corps this season made this trade look even worse and the responsible people even dumber. And that's that. Now go tell me to follow Cleveland as well, that's all you do anyway... telling other fans to get lost when you don't like their opinions. Pathetic.

Absolutely, go follow Amari as well. Jerry made the right decision for the reasons previously stated, plus Amari refused to take a pay cut. Has Jerry failed in replacing Amari? Absolutely, and it has hurt the team, but Jerry had his reasons for not keeping Amari any longer.

 

[CWR]

I'm not going to argue against what the 9ers have built, but I do think it's ironic the last time they WON a superbowl was 1995.

No one talks about that while heaping praise on their accomplishments.

 

[USArmyVet]

Brock Purdy 7th round draft pick 4-year/$3.7M contract 7 career starts (1 season) 1 playoff win

Trevor Lawrence 1st round draft pick 4-year/$36.7M contract 34 career starts (2 seasons) 1 playoff win

Dak Prescott 4th round draft pick 4-year/$160M contract 97 career starts (7 seasons) 1 playoff win


Money well spent Dallas.