Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale?

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Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale? The overanalysis of whether to go for it or not. The over officiating to where you can barely go a drive without 3-4 penalties. The seemingly worse play on the field than years past. I get that players are getting bigger and faster, but the football intelligence seems to be reducing.

I'm just curious why it seems like the league just doesn't seem quite as good as it used to be? Is it just because the Cowboys aren't good this year that I'm noticing this? Either way, as far as I can tell, the NFL product this season seems worse than I can remember.
Where have you been bud there have been some great games so far this season.
With QB play that produces not only points but great finishes.
The only thing STALE is us................ unfortunately!!! :facepalm:
P.S. Our Team has great Tattoos and massive contracts that's something I guess............ :muttley:
 

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Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale? The overanalysis of whether to go for it or not. The over officiating to where you can barely go a drive without 3-4 penalties. The seemingly worse play on the field than years past. I get that players are getting bigger and faster, but the football intelligence seems to be reducing.

I'm just curious why it seems like the league just doesn't seem quite as good as it used to be? Is it just because the Cowboys aren't good this year that I'm noticing this? Either way, as far as I can tell, the NFL product this season seems worse than I can remember.
It's been that way for a long time. For me, when I saw Rob Riggle on pregame shows is about the time I stopped watching any sort of pre/post game analysis. Now I hear my buddies complaining about Gronk and see that it hasn't changed much. I don't watch those weekly sports shows either and stopped watching those about the same time. You know the ones...they get posted here all the time.

Games are boring. Too many rules/flags/stripes on TV. Games are too long. Too many commercials. I hate seeing the defense get penalties for putting a good hit on the QB. I am all for protecting players but they are going too far with the QB position.

I am far more excited about watching Iowa WBB than the NFL. Being totally serious about that as I do live in Hawkeye country.
 

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It’s just that our team has sucked for a long time
You see these other offenses and their QB slinging the ball 20 yards 40 yards Boom Bam and with us, it's like watching paint dry.
I'd be down on the NFL as dink and dunk same routes all game long and running the FB on 3rd and 5 is BORINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!
 

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Salary cap and QB pay, as well as other players ruin teams as well. They claim for parity. But why do some teams that are $50 million in cap hell, all of a sudden have $50 million in cap space. While other teams can't do the same.
Why do some teams suddenly have cap space? Because they have a GM that understands how to handle the salary cap. Quite simply, we don’t.
 

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I would agree. The vibes are way different than they were even about 5 years ago. I think there’s a few reasons.

QB play is down right now. You don’t really have the 10-15 rock solid starters that have been holding it down for their franchise for a decade that we had for years in Brady, Big Ben, Palmer, Romo, Eli, Peyton, Brees, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Prime Russel Wilson, Prime Andrew Luck etc.

Pad rules at practice have led to a decline in the quality of offensive line play. It’s impossible to get real reps at that position as a unit in T shirts and shorts.

All of the officiating changes have also resulted in a pretty watered down and disjointed game experience with all of the flags flying. When I was in Ireland I went to a few Gaelic football games and played a few pickup games with locals myself. The rules were simple, and flexible. It’s rare for a penalty to occur and it is usually reserved for an egregious violation. They said Gaelic football is not focused on the rules, but retaining the core characteristics of the game. The NFL could learn something here.

Additionally, I understand it’s a business, but the over commercialization has gotten pretty out of control too. If you watch any weekday sports shows, I would estimate at least 33% of the discussion is focused around lines, over unders for yards, TDs, etc. Almost nobody I know, even people that were previously die hards for a franchise, really watch a favorite “team” anymore. Everything is about what ridiculous 7 leg parlay they built that week. Games being moved to a number of different streaming services just to gauge the consumer even harder is also taking a toll.

As the social media generation has come of age, player egos also seem to have generally ballooned to levels that wouldn’t have been possible previously. The social media atmosphere surrounding the NFL is corny.

The whole thing has less substance than it used to. That’s fine, in the end it’s just entertainment, but in my opinion it’s just worse.
 
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I definitely think it starts with our favorite team sucking the energy out of us with their incompetent "GM". After that it does come down to the product on the field. Football used to be a gritty, hard-nosed game with fewer rules and more physicality. They just can't leave well enough alone. They screwed up the kick off (I hate the new kick off), you can hardly touch the QB, and every 5 plays there is a flag being thrown. I do understand that player safety is important, no one wants to see serious injuries, but football is inherently a physical game and players know the risks when they sign those multi-million-dollar contracts. These constant penalties just kill the flow and excitement of the game, and, I cannot stand when it determines the outcome of any given game.

Take last night, for example: you have an exciting matchup with Cincinnati clawing their way back into the game. It's down to the wire, and you’re pumped to see who can score last and take the win. Then it’s flag, flag, flag, flag. Can we have ONE drive without yellow laundry flying? Lol.
 

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Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale? The overanalysis of whether to go for it or not. The over officiating to where you can barely go a drive without 3-4 penalties. The seemingly worse play on the field than years past. I get that players are getting bigger and faster, but the football intelligence seems to be reducing.

I'm just curious why it seems like the league just doesn't seem quite as good as it used to be? Is it just because the Cowboys aren't good this year that I'm noticing this? Either way, as far as I can tell, the NFL product this season seems worse than I can remember.
It probably feels that way because the Cowboys are having a down year. I'm pretty over the season and can't wait for the offseason, lol.
 

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Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale? The overanalysis of whether to go for it or not. The over officiating to where you can barely go a drive without 3-4 penalties. The seemingly worse play on the field than years past. I get that players are getting bigger and faster, but the football intelligence seems to be reducing.

I'm just curious why it seems like the league just doesn't seem quite as good as it used to be? Is it just because the Cowboys aren't good this year that I'm noticing this? Either way, as far as I can tell, the NFL product this season seems worse than I can remember.
It has been stale for over 10 years now. I hardly ever watch non-Cowboys games anymore, and I only keep doing that because of the sunk-cost fallacy.
 

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Ratings are all-time high. Some people, like you may think the game is 'stale' but broadly it isn't losing viewership despite threads in here every year saying the game is getting 'stale' and claiming ratings/interest is going down.
 

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Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale? The overanalysis of whether to go for it or not. The over officiating to where you can barely go a drive without 3-4 penalties. The seemingly worse play on the field than years past. I get that players are getting bigger and faster, but the football intelligence seems to be reducing.

I'm just curious why it seems like the league just doesn't seem quite as good as it used to be? Is it just because the Cowboys aren't good this year that I'm noticing this? Either way, as far as I can tell, the NFL product this season seems worse than I can remember.
Think it's just because your team is out of it and there's really not much hope for a turnaround for the next few years so it's casting a cloud over it for you. Try fantasy football...it helps keep you interested in all the games even when your real team is terrible.
 

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Ratings are all-time high. Some people, like you may think the game is 'stale' but broadly it isn't losing viewership despite threads in here every year saying the game is getting 'stale' and claiming ratings/interest is going down.
You can appeal to popularity all you want as it is irrelevant to my opinion which is what the OP is asking from the other members.

McDonalds out sells everybody, does that make their food good?
 

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The rules are getting more restrictive as well.....they killed the excitement of the Kickoff return by changing the kickoff line at least 3 times since the 70s.

Their will never be another Devin Hester in the NFL again
I wish they would do away with special teams altogether. Who wants to see 14 punts per game. Boring as hell.
 

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I would agree. The vibes are way different than they were even about 5 years ago. I think there’s a few reasons.

QB play is down right now. You don’t really have the 10-15 rock solid starters that have been holding it down for their franchise for a decade that we had for years in Brady, Big Ben, Palmer, Romo, Eli, Peyton, Brees, Ryan, Rodgers, Rivers, Prime Russel Wilson, Prime Andrew Luck etc.

Pad rules at practice have led to a decline in the quality of offensive line play. It’s impossible to get real reps at that position as a unit in T shirts and shorts.

All of the officiating changes have also resulted in a pretty watered down and disjointed game experience with all of the flags flying. When I was in Ireland I went to a few Gaelic football games and played a few pickup games with locals myself. The rules were simple, and flexible. It’s rare for a penalty to occur and it is usually reserved for an egregious violation. They said Gaelic football is not focused on the rules, but retaining the core characteristics of the game. The NFL could learn something here.

Additionally, I understand it’s a business, but the over commercialization has gotten pretty out of control too. If you watch any weekday sports shows, I would estimate at least 33% of the discussion is focused around lines, over unders for yards, TDs, etc. Almost nobody I know, even people that were previously die hards for a franchise, really watch a favorite “team” anymore. Everything is about what ridiculous 7 leg parlay they built that week. Games being moved to a number of different streaming services just to gauge the consumer even harder is also taking a toll.

As the social media generation has come of age, player egos also seem to have generally ballooned to levels that wouldn’t have been possible previously. The social media atmosphere surrounding the NFL is corny.

The whole thing has less substance than it used to. That’s fine, in the end it’s just entertainment, but in my opinion it’s just worse.

Exactly. A decade ago, the top 10 QBs (in no particular order) were Brady, Manning, Rothelisberger, Romo, a younger Rodgers, Wilson (who's still solid), Eli, Flacco, Philip Rivers, and Luck. That was a solid top 10 QBs. Now, you have Mahomes (who's not been good this year), Allen, Lamar (who chokes in big moments), maybe Russell Wilson, Goff, maybe Burrow, and maybe Herbert now. Following that, there's basically everyone else. The QB play is no where near where it was a decade ago.
 

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You see these other offenses and their QB slinging the ball 20 yards 40 yards Boom Bam and with us, it's like watching paint dry.
I'd be down on the NFL as dink and dunk same routes all game long and running the FB on 3rd and 5 is BORINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!
Detroit and the Bills agree with this message!
 

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Think it's just because your team is out of it and there's really not much hope for a turnaround for the next few years so it's casting a cloud over it for you. Try fantasy football...it helps keep you interested in all the games even when your real team is terrible.

I play fantasy football lol
 

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I wish they would do away with special teams altogether. Who wants to see 14 punts per game. Boring as hell.
Hey, the next new rule. If inside the opponents 50, anything less than 4th and 3, they must go for it. Unless in FG range.
It will eliminate punting and pinning them inside the 10. But it creates more scoring opportunities.
 

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Exactly. A decade ago, the top 10 QBs (in no particular order) were Brady, Manning, Rothelisberger, Romo, a younger Rodgers, Wilson (who's still solid), Eli, Flacco, Philip Rivers, and Luck. That was a solid top 10 QBs. Now, you have Mahomes (who's not been good this year), Allen, Lamar (who chokes in big moments), maybe Russell Wilson, Goff, maybe Burrow, and maybe Herbert now. Following that, there's basically everyone else. The QB play is no where near where it was a decade ago.
Eli was Top 10, when? He was Mr average although yes he did go on two SB runs. Other than that nothing special.
 

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Is it just me, or is the league getting a bit stale? The overanalysis of whether to go for it or not. The over officiating to where you can barely go a drive without 3-4 penalties. The seemingly worse play on the field than years past. I get that players are getting bigger and faster, but the football intelligence seems to be reducing.

I'm just curious why it seems like the league just doesn't seem quite as good as it used to be? Is it just because the Cowboys aren't good this year that I'm noticing this? Either way, as far as I can tell, the NFL product this season seems worse than I can remember.
I think it's been stale for a while. But I contribute that to me getting older and truly understanding what pro sports is about. All that matters in pro sports is money. Fans like to think winning matters. Pro sports leagues have fans hooked especially the NFL.
 

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You can appeal to popularity all you want as it is irrelevant to my opinion which is what the OP is asking from the other members.

McDonalds out sells everybody, does that make their food good?
lol I said people can think and have an opinion if they want but broadly that isn’t what most think

And yes many people think McDonalds food is good that’s a key reason they sell the most lol no matter if you or I think so
 
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