Is it really all JJ's fault?

[john van brocklin]

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

Jerry has done some good things.
The talent acquisition you mentioned for one.
Where Jerry is at fault is that he is responsible for setting the tone and culture of the team.
That's where he drops the ball.
The constant over stating how good things are is one thing.
Do the players really feel any pressure to strive for greatness and improvement ?
The most important thing is their is a culture of no accountability.
I have never heard Jerry take responsibility for any negative thing with this team.
This attitude trickles down to the coaches and players.
So the team is good enough to make the playoffs, but in the playoffs against good teams their is no heart and character.
They are just too soft to overcome adversity.

 

[CTcowboy203]

How many decades does a guy have to fail to put a team together before it is realized he is at fault?

The team has a lot of talent on it. It’s a good team. It wasn’t prepared for yesterday for whatever reason- that’s on coaching. Jerry can be blamed for other things but the loss to the packers wasn’t bc of lack of talent

 

[kskboys]

Jerry has done some good things.
The talent acquisition you mentioned for one.
Where Jerry is at fault is that he is responsible for setting the tone and culture of the team.
That's where he drops the ball.
The constant over stating how good things are is one thing.
Do the players really feel any pressure to strive for greatness and improvement ?
The most important thing is their is a culture of no accountability.
I have never heard Jerry take responsibility for any negative thing with this team.
So the team is good enough to make the playoffs, but in the playoffs against good teams their is no heart and character.
They are just too soft to overcome adversity.

And acquiring starting LB's, RB's, and S's.

Incomplete talent acquisition is bad talent acquisition.

 

[KMY_Amber]

How many decades does a guy have to fail to put a team together before it is realized he is at fault?

Yes, him as the owner is clearly at fault...as he's the owner.

But Jerry as the GM? Has he really been at fault? The Cowboys have 9 All-Pro players during Dak's tenure, and had 10 during the height of the Romo years.

 

[VaqueroTD]

 

[kskboys]

The team has a lot of talent on it. It’s a good team. It wasn’t prepared for yesterday for whatever reason- that’s on coaching. Jerry can be blamed for other things but the loss to the packers wasn’t bc of lack of talent

Just how good is that talent really when we still can't stop the run or pressure the QB?

 

[Scottishcowboy]

It's Jerry, always has been, always will be.

The culture is soft, players are too well looked after and don't have the hunger when the chips are down, that's Jerry's culture.

Top heavy rosters for years with big name stars to sell jerseys and get talked about on TV when a balanced roster would be far better.

If a pro golfer practiced 1 hour a day when his peers practice 7 hours, I don't expect him to win. Our "1 hour a day GM" can't match up with full time GMs across the NFL.

Again, it's Jerry, EVERYTHING starts with him.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Just how good is that talent really when we still can't stop the run or pressure the QB?

Just how good is that talent really when we still can't stop the run or pressure the QB?

Yesterday was an effort and coaching issue. Not talent. The talent was the reason we were favored by 7 by Vegas and the 2 seed

 

[ufcrules1]

It's all Jerry's fault and anyone who doesn't see that is an idiot. He won't hire a real GM or head coach. Mike Mccarthy was unemployed out of coaching when he was hired and the guy is a damn moron.
Yes, he inherited a terrific team with Rodgers leading the way and they won a super bowl but that doesn't make him a good coach. He makes moronic decisions decisions all the time. It isn't his fault either, he is
a yes man and the Cowboys offered to pay him a lot of money to coach and he didn't have a job. But it's Jerry's fault for hiring him. Even if Jerry hires a great coach, he won't let that coach draft and build the team the
way he needs to. He makes tons and tons of bad decisions. His EGO won't allow him to step aside and let the professionals run the team. He has a country club mentality and then that poisons the team and makes them
believe their own hype. They should have come in HUNGRY and ready to absolutely crush the Packers and they should have. Instead they believed their own hype and got absolutely destroyed by an inferior team.

This isn't anything new either, this has been happening for 28 years now(Multiple different coaches, multiple different QB's, multiple different players and there is ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR. Jerry Jones.

The only good news is he is 81 freaking years old and this can't last forever. The bad news is his son is an absolute ******* too. But Stephen Jones doesn't have the ego his dad has. My hope is once Jerry dies they sell the team
to a real owner who stays out of the day to day management of the team.

 

[KMY_Amber]

Now look at the weak positions:

LB's: We have none
RB's: Don't have a starter
DLine: We have a rotational type at 3 tech, and our DE's just aren't getting there
S: lack a FS

Let me put it this way. How good is that yacht if there are huge holes in the bottom?

OK, good point.

Though I will say that we've argued that Jerry never built from the trenches out, and now we have All Pro players in the trenches on both sides. So that SHOULD mean the foundation of the boat is pretty good, but yes, we're missing other pieces.

So, having said that, do you think this team's roster as a whole is overrated, ksk? Did this team really underachieve, or with the holes you mentioned above, how could we have ever expected this team to get to the Superbowl with so many missing pieces??? Hec, maybe Quinn did a masterful job of coaching this defense with so many holes.

So many narratives, hard to figure out which one speaks to the reality of the situation.

Maybe this team is just some good LBs, a RB and some dee linemen away from being a real contender.

But don't we always say that? LOL

 

[Steve007]

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

It doesn't matter who was voted for what. What matters is the results on the field.

 

[KMY_Amber]

It's all Jerry's fault and anyone who doesn't see that is an idiot. He won't hire a real GM or head coach. Mike Mccarthy was unemployed out of coaching when he was hired and the guy is a damn moron.
Yes, he inherited a terrific team with Rodgers leading the way and they won a super bowl but that doesn't make him a good coach. He makes moronic decisions decisions all the time. It isn't his fault either, he is
a yes man and the Cowboys offered to pay him a lot of money to coach and he didn't have a job. But it's Jerry's fault for hiring him. Even if Jerry hires a great coach, he won't let that coach draft and build the team the
way he needs to. He makes tons and tons of bad decisions. His EGO won't allow him to step aside and let the professionals run the team. He has a country club mentality and then that poisons the team and makes them
believe their own hype. They should have come in HUNGRY and ready to absolutely crush the Packers and they should have. Instead they believed their own hype and got absolutely destroyed by an inferior team.

This isn't anything new either, this has been happening for 28 years now(Multiple different coaches, multiple different QB's, multiple different players and there is ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR. Jerry Jones.

The only good news is he is 81 freaking years old and this can't last forever. The bad news is his son is an absolute ******* too. But Stephen Jones doesn't have the ego his dad has. My hope is once Jerry dies they sell the team
to a real owner who stays out of the day to day management of the team.

He hired Parcells. Was he not a real HC?

 

[kskboys]

Yes, him as the owner is clearly at fault...as he's the owner.

But Jerry as the GM? Has he really been at fault? The Cowboys have 9 All-Pro players during Dak's tenure, and had 10 during the height of the Romo years.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

K, dude, we have no starting LB's, no starting 3 techs, and no starting RB's on the roster. Think, man.

 

[kskboys]

He hired Parcells. Was he not a real HC?

That was a great hire. Jerry should've been begging him to stay. If Tuna stays, we beat the Giants in 07 and most likely have a super bowl appearance.

 

[KMY_Amber]

It doesn't matter who was voted for what. What matters is the results on the field.

OK, so being All-Pro doesn't matter. Our Eye Test is a better gauge of impact and talent.

I won't argue with that. LOL

 

[75boyz]

It's a repeat topic of discussion that I will always concede the lion's share of the blame to the GM.
Because he chooses the coach and drafts the QB.
Where my opinion differs from several here is not letting the HC and QB off scot free in the performance of their duties.

They too share in team failure.
The NFL business success plan is centered around optimal performance from the GM, HC and QB.

I think its about a 50/25/25 percentage split of blame between Jerry, McCheese and SleepNumber.

Several others here put the whole ball of wax on Jerry cuz he hired them.
To each his own I guess.

 

[zrinkill]

"The Associated Press released its NFL All-Pro teams on Friday morning, and nine players from the Dallas Cowboys landed on the two teams with CeeDee Lamb, DaRon Bland, Zack Martin and Brandon Aubrey earning first-team honors and Dak Prescott, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith, Micah Parsons and Bryan Anger earning second-team."

So, if Jerry as GM is fielding a team of All-Pros, and he hired a "proven" defensive coordinator (Quinn) and a Superbowl-winning coach (McCarthy), in recent years, what is he doing so egregiously wrong?

Sure, he's the face of the franchise unlike other owners, but in some ways, that should be a good thing...syphoning unnecessary media attention away from the players.

And no, all of his decisions haven't panned out, but that's for every owner. Hec, many people take 1st-round QBs who become busts. Way more busts than success.

So, I ask the honest question (also asking myself because I crap all over Jerry Jones too when given the chance), what more can he do?

Yes, I think this team is overrated, but the pundits and others always tell me this team has one of the most talented rosters in the league, backed up by 9 All-Pro players, so I guess I'm wrong.

But if this team IS truly talented, and Jerry hired seasoned coaches to get this team over the top, can we really blame Jerry for all the team's woes as of late?

Because he makes decisions based off what he wants to believe....... like we had a number 1 RB ....... like Gallup or Steele was the same after injury.

 

[kskboys]

OK, good point.

Though I will say that we've argued that Jerry never built from the trenches out, and now we have All Pro players in the trenches on both sides. So that SHOULD mean the foundation of the boat is pretty good, but yes, we're missing other pieces.

So, having said that, do you think this team's roster as a whole is overrated, ksk? Did this team really underachieve, or with the holes you mentioned above, how could we have ever expected this team to get to the Superbowl with so many missing pieces??? Hec, maybe Quinn did a masterful job of coaching this defense with so many holes.

So many narratives, hard to figure out which one speaks to the reality of the situation.

Maybe this team is just some good LBs, a RB and some dee linemen away from being a real contender.

But don't we always say that? LOL

Problem is, this team is great at some positions, but terrible at others. That is why we run over poor teams and get steam rolled by good teams. Poor teams cannot take advantage of our weaknesses.

 

[Steve007]

And I wonder what part of the Cowboys culture is awful, and how could it be worse than when Jimmy Johnson was here and the Cowboys had a few known drug addicts as starters (Irvin, etc.), and their off-the-field shenanigans are legendary. So yes, the culture has always been a bit "loose", but that same culture won 3 Superbowls with Johnson and Switzer.

The players treated like they have already won a superbowl. Players are untouchable and hey know it. Dak is going to ge a big reward in the off season for failing. They are hyped up from jerry and the media. They are treated like rock stars. The cowboys are country club.

 

[kskboys]

It's a repeat topic of discussion that I will always concede the lion's share of the blame to the GM.
Because he chooses the coach and drafts the QB.
Where my opinion differs from several here is not letting the HC and QB off scot free in the performance of their duties.

They too share in team failure.
The NFL business success plan is centered around optimal performance from the GM, HC and QB.

I think its about a 50/25/25 percentage split of blame between Jerry, McCheese and SleepNumber.

Several others here put the whole ball of wax on Jerry cuz he hired them.
To each his own I guess.

I can live w/ that.

The real fault lies w/ whomever decided to go into the season w/ this set of LB's and whomever decided to draft a TE in the 2nd. Not sure who it is.