Is it too early to discuss Murray for NFL MVP?

[perrykemp]

Don't be silly man.Big deal about Bell. I'll take 8 straight 100 yard games and 11 of 13 overall. I'll also take Murray's 9 TD to Bell's 5 and 74 first downs to 61. The only thing Bell has over Murray is 0 fumbles to 3 and a .1 YPC but there is no way Bell is better than Murray.

Bell has 1924 yards from scrimmage and is averaging 6.16 yards per touch.

Murray has 1998 yards from scrimmage and is averaging 5.36 yards per touch

It's VERY close in terms of which guy is the most productive RB in the NFL. Murray is getting more touches, however, Bell is averaging almost a yard more per touch.

 

[YosemiteSam]

He is a fumbling dirtbag. I say hell no.

 

[Hostile]

Offensive MVP that is..

Comments welcome.

After the Chicago game..

I say yes..

going away.

No, it's just incorrect to think of anyone associated with the Cowboys in any type of positive light. Shame on you.

 

[mldardy]

Well Murray has 5 fumbles...

Bell also has nearly 700 yards receiving. I think, total, Murray only has like 80 yards more than Bell. And Bell plays on a team with a horrible OLine.

3 fumbles, 5 fumbles. Doesn't matter. Murray isn't asked to catch the ball as much. He's asked to block and run primarily. He's more than capable of doing it. I'm still taking Murray over Bell. Bell's receiving numbers were inflated primarily from 1 game that they lost.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

It is close. It amazes me how this award is the de facto best QB or hottest QB award. Rodgers will win up because the media and people like you can't stop drooling over him like he is some robot that can do no wrong but Murray is just as valuable to his team as Rodgers is to his but I'll let you continue with the hyperbole bull****.

If the Packers lose Rodgers the Packers do nothing.

If the Cowboys lose Murray then the Cowboys get other running backs to keep running the ball. Will 1 be as effective as Murray? Most likely not. But Randal has shown, more than once, this year already that he is capable of running behind this o-line.

So, yeah, it's not close.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Don't be silly man.Big deal about Bell. I'll take 8 straight 100 yard games and 11 of 13 overall. I'll also take Murray's 9 TD to Bell's 5 and 74 first downs to 61. The only thing Bell has over Murray is 0 fumbles to 3 and a .1 YPC but there is no way Bell is better than Murray.

And Bell plays for Pittsburgh.

That automatically makes him better as far as the media is concerned.

 

[Crown Royal]

Saying that Rodgers is the clear cut MVP is not an insult to Murray. The entire offense moves because of Rodgers, regardless of the OL, who is playing WR, etc. Pull Rodgers out and the offense is not nearly as lethal.

Murray is very important to the Cowboy's rushing attack, but evidence suggests that it's possible another really good RB could be successful there too.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Now all that said I do think Murray has to be in the discussion for MVP. Especially if he continues this level of play, Dallas wins out, and makes the playoffs.

 

[Doomsday101]

Saying that Rodgers is the clear cut MVP is not an insult to Murray. The entire offense moves because of Rodgers, regardless of the OL, who is playing WR, etc. Pull Rodgers out and the offense is not nearly as lethal.

Murray is very important to the Cowboy's rushing attack, but evidence suggests that it's possible another really good RB could be successful there too.

then Rodgers should win MVP every year but that is not the case. What gives Murray a legit chance is producing at a level that is seldom done in the NFL.

 

[Crown Royal]

then Rodgers should win MVP every year but that is not the case. What gives Murray a legit chance is producing at a level that is seldom done in the NFL.

I agree. I think the MVP award is utterly absurd in a sport like football. I don't really pay much attention to it.

 

[mldardy]

If the Packers lose Rodgers the Packers do nothing.

If the Cowboys lose Murray then the Cowboys get other running backs to keep running the ball. Will 1 be as effective as Murray? Most likely not. But Randal has shown, more than once, this year already that he is capable of running behind this o-line.

So, yeah, it's not close.

Do nothing? That's a little far fetched. They did win games without him last year including against us. No team is as good without a QB like Rodgers but to say they would do nothing is not true. If the Cowboys lose Murray then the Cowboys get other running back to keep running the ball? It's that simple huh. Wow.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree. I think the MVP award is utterly absurd in a sport like football. I don't really pay much attention to it.

I pay attention to it since it is a big honor. I think Rodgers is deserving of it as well as Murray. It is not every year a guy is puts up 2000 yards (if he gets to that mark)

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Just give it to JJ & be done with it.

He's the best player in the NFL.

 

[mldardy]

Just give it to JJ & be done with it.

He's the best player in the NFL.

Best player when he's playing Jacksonville and Tennessee for sure.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Best player when he's playing Jacksonville and Tennessee for sure.

Oh please. He's the best defensive player in the NFL period. They do count in MVP consideration right?

And he has offensive TD's too.

 

[mldardy]

Oh please. He's the best defensive player in the NFL period. They do count in MVP consideration right?

And he has offensive TD's too.

Oh please my ***. He isn't MVP. Defensive POY fine but MVP on a 7-6 team and almost half your sacks are against the piss poor Titans and Jags.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Yeah, I forgot about JJ, he's reallymaking a push. I wouldn't be mad if he got it if Murray can't. I'd rather have the MVP be a stat-padding DE than a stat-padding quarterback.

 

[Hoofbite]

Aaron Rogers will win the MVP

I was thinking the same thing because his numbers are absolutely insane. Almost an 11:1 TD:INT ratio and a QBR of 118.

But, Adrian Peterson beat out Rodgers in 2012 and Rosgers had a hell of a season that year as well. 39 TDs, 8 INTs, and 108 QBR.

I think Murray has to crack 2000 and Dallas gets to the playoffs. Very possible yards-wise but playoffs could come down to tie breakers.

A player who I think deserves consideration is Antonio Brown. He may be the 2nd player ever to catch 130 passes in a season, and he has a small - but still possible - chance to set the record for receptions in a season. He'd need 13 per game so unlikely but not impossible. He could also have a top 5 all time year in receiving yards if he gets 350 yards, which is well within reach as he averages 105/game.

I know WRs pretty much never win but I wonder how many guys with comparable seasons at WR had the best season for his position on a winning team. Last year Gordon lead the league but the Browns were awful. Year before Calvin had 1900 yard but the Lions were awful.

Rodgers has some good teams to compile yards and TDs on in Atlanta and Tampa remaining. I think he'll come out on top, but if Murray cracks 2000 yards and Dallas gets to the playoffs I think Murray would get the award. Rodgers has Luck, Manning, Brady, Big Ben, and Romo who have all had great seasons.

The closest back to Murray is about 4 games worth of yards behind him.

The Packers wouldn't be as good, but they'd still be damn good with any of the QBs that are having great seasons. There is little doubt that Dallas would be in the position they are if Murray wasn't having this season.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Oh please my ***. He isn't MVP. Defensive POY fine but MVP on a 7-6 team and almost half your sacks are against the piss poor Titans and Jags.

If you say so! He doesn't have much choice who they play. I think he's the best player in the NFL.

 

[Bowdown27]

I think if we win out make the playoffs and he gets to 2000. He has to be the favorite to win it. I know RODGERS has played lights out but Murray has been fantastic