Is it too early to discuss Murray for NFL MVP?

[cowboys2233]

<IF> Rodgers gets the MVP it will be based on his 10-1 TD-INT ratio. The rest of his numbers are nice, but not otherworldly.

As it should be.

 

[mldardy]

He has a QB rating a full ten points higher than the 2nd place guy, a guy named Tony Romo. And much of that has to do with his ridiculous TD-int ratio. 32 touchdowns to only 3 ints is...insane.

Ok that's great about QB rating. There are like 8 QBs in the league with an over 100 QB rating. My point is Rodgers is having an MVP season but he isn't doing anything out of the ordinary that the QBs I mentioned Manning, Brady, Brees have done in one single season.

 

[KJJ]

If the Cowboys go 12-4 after all the doom and gloom predictions prior to the season and make the playoffs I say Murray wins the MVP. If the Cowboys go 11-5 making the playoffs and Murray hits the 2000 yard mark he'll win the MVP. It's not just a players stats that earn them the MVP it's leading their team to wins and the playoffs. The award usually goes to a player who did a lot to carry their team and Murray has carried the Cowboys this season. No way is this team 9-4 without the production Murray has provided.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

depends on the rest of the season . If we go 12-4 and murray gets 2000 i think Murray will be MVP. Rodgers barely has 3000 yards passing not that great.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Do nothing? That's a little far fetched. They did win games without him last year including against us. No team is as good without a QB like Rodgers but to say they would do nothing is not true. If the Cowboys lose Murray then the Cowboys get other running back to keep running the ball? It's that simple huh. Wow.

Other running backs. No one RB would be as good but they could get the job done more than well enough. Randal has proven that on more than one occasion.

And I'm not even about to give the Packers credit for lucking into beating us last year because of our stupid coaching last year. It's not even close. I know you love Murray and that's perfectly fine. I have no issue with that.

Murray isn't in the same league of importance as Romo is, let alone Rodgers.

 

[KJJ]

depends on the rest of the season . If we go 12-4 and murray gets 2000 i think Murray will be MVP. Rodgers barely has 3000 yards passing not that great.

He has just over 3300 yards passing that surprised me. They've pulled him from several games in which he could have had well over 400 yards passing had the Packers not had such a big lead. In one game he played just barely over a half due to the Packers blowing out an opponent. A lot of Rodgers passing yards were in the first half of games.

 

[blumayne38]

According to Ladanian Tomlinson he isn't even the best RB in the NFL. All of sudden Leveon Bell is the best RB for some unknown reason. I mean I watched NFL Gameday and they were swinging from his Bell's nuts last night. I know Bell's had a good year but it amazes me how people hate to give any Cowboy player for being the best at their position. Murray has run for 100 yards in what all of 1 or 2 games and broke Jim Brown's record for consecutive 100 yard games.

it amazes me how disrespectful they are to murray, i love that kid....lmao

 

[Doomsday101]

If Murray can avg 131 a game over the next 3 games he has a good chance to get league MVP. 131 a game is what he will need to get to 2000 yards.

 

[blumayne38]

especially when he was on First Take Twice......no other player on this team has the cajones to do that.. Stephen A acted like a kid when he was talking to Murray talking completely obnoxious and factual...what a tool

 

[blumayne38]

If Murray can avg 131 a game over the next 3 games he has a good chance to get league MVP. 131 a game is what he will need to get to 2000 yards.

yup i believe so, people are yearning deep down to have someone other then a QB win the MVP
maybe jj watt

 

[Doomsday101]

yup i believe so, people are yearning deep down to praise someone else besides a QB...

For me it has nothing to do with that. I think a solid case could be made for Rodgers. However there are only 7 RB in the history of the NFL to hit the 2000 or better mark

 

[blumayne38]

i hope Murray gets his consideration, and continues to be healthy

 

[mldardy]

Other running backs. No one RB would be as good but they could get the job done more than well enough. Randal has proven that on more than one occasion.

And I'm not even about to give the Packers credit for lucking into beating us last year because of our stupid coaching last year. It's not even close. I know you love Murray and that's perfectly fine. I have no issue with that.

Murray isn't in the same league of importance as Romo is, let alone Rodgers.

No he isn't. The guy hasn't had more than 5 carries once this season. Coming in on spot duty is a whole lot different than carrying the load 25-30 times a game every week.

You don't have to give the Packers credit that they already got. They won that game without Rodgers plain and simple and they won another against ATL as well.

 

[Wood]

I will tell you this - Dallas won't be better team next year without Murray. Not sure he wins MVP but this has been most dominant display of running since Emmitt.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

No he isn't. The guy hasn't had more than 5 carries once this season. Coming in on spot duty is a whole lot different than carrying the load 25-30 times a game every week.

You don't have to give the Packers credit that they already got. They won that game without Rodgers plain and simple and they won another against ATL as well.

Cool.

We don't agree.

We're not going to.

Randall could run behind this line.

They'd spell him with Dunbar and/or Williams and the running game would continue to work.

Take Rodgers out of their line up they're not going to have a winning record. They're not going to win playoff games.

It's really just that simple.

 

[mldardy]

Cool.

We don't agree.

We're not going to.

Randall could run behind this line.

They'd spell him with Dunbar and/or Williams and the running game would continue to work.

Take Rodgers out of their line up they're not going to have a winning record. They're not going to win playoff games.

It's really just that simple.

Cool

 

[tyke1doe]

No, they don't count differently. But it's a pretty impressive bullet point, he hasn't thrown a single interception in home games this year. Why exactly aren't you recognizing how great of an accomplishment that is, this late in the year? And a great talking point when the voters are debating.

I think the question should be "Why don't MVP voters consider that a MAJOR accomplishment?"

I don't write the rules. Quarterbacks aren't usually given the MVP because they throw fewer interceptions. Rather, they're recognized because they throw for more yards and more touchdowns.

 

[tyke1doe]

Who is this "we" you're referring to? I place a tremendous amount of emphasis on QB rating because it takes both production and efficiency into account. It almost sounds like your primary basis for awarding Murray the MVP is based on ignorance. Good logic.

We as in those who judge and award MVP candidates. We as in those who rave about a QB's passing numbers and touchdowns.

And, please, stop with the "My argument is more logical than your argument, which is ignorant." Posters use that as a trump card when someone dares to question them.

Third, my awarding Murray the MVP is NOT based on ignorance. In fact, I haven't even awarded him the MVP. What I said was if the Cowboys make the playoffs and Murray rushes for more than 2,000 yards, YES, he should get it.

OJ Simpson won it when he went over 2,000 yards.
Barry Sanders won it when he went over 2,000 yards.
Eric Dickerson won it when he went over 2,000 yards.

DeMarco Murray?

Again, if you're going to attack my position as being ignorant (which it isn't), please, at the very least, know what I'm arguing and don't pass off your cluelessness as ignorance on my part.

 

[Doomsday101]

Cool.

We don't agree.

We're not going to.

Randall could run behind this line.

They'd spell him with Dunbar and/or Williams and the running game would continue to work.

Take Rodgers out of their line up they're not going to have a winning record. They're not going to win playoff games.

It's really just that simple.

True and reason to be his teams MVP, but often the award league wide has a lot to do with numbers vs the league. Murray is not just leading the league he is blowing the league away and if he can continue that and post 2000 he very well could take it. Not saying Rodgers will not get it he could. Heck there are a lot of players who if you take them off the team their teams would not do well but not a reason alone to say he is the league MVP. Take Peyton out of the lineup and see how Denver does.

 

[tyke1doe]

If the Cowboys go 12-4 after all the doom and gloom predictions prior to the season and make the playoffs I say Murray wins the MVP. If the Cowboys go 11-5 making the playoffs and Murray hits the 2000 yard mark he'll win the MVP. It's not just a players stats that earn them the MVP it's leading their team to wins and the playoffs. The award usually goes to a player who did a lot to carry their team and Murray has carried the Cowboys this season. No way is this team 9-4 without the production Murray has provided.

Watch it. You'll be attacked for not using logic.