Is Matt Jones getting cut on June 1st?

[Sarge]

bad hands, lousy route runner, lousy work ethic, no talent for the position

even IF he made the team, it'd be as the 5th WR at best probably...he isnt worth wasting a roster spot on

David

.........................the guy sucks.

 

[Stash]

.........................the guy sucks.

That hurts Sarge, I was hoping I could count on you....



I'm officially crossing your name off the bandwagon list!

:write:

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm officially crossing your name off the bandwagon list!

:write:

Cross mine off too please.

 

[Stash]

Cross mine off too please.

:yousuck:

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

my point is he really has never had a great Qb throwing to him. so maybe he is worth a shot. a 6 or 7 round pick would work for him.

 

[Stash]

my point is he really has never had a great Qb throwing to him. so maybe he is worth a shot. a 6 or 7 round pick would work for him.

Welcome Aboard!

:cheers:

 

[Sarge]

Cross mine off too please.

:laugh2:

 

[Stash]

Quick Trivia Question:

First correct answer gets a prize!

Who was the Jacksonville Jaguars' leading receiver for 2006?

 

[ZeroClub]

Who was the Jacksonville Jaguars' leading receiver for 2006?

Sort of like asking "How tall is the tallest dwarf?"

(Answer: 6'6" ?)

 

[Stash]

Sort of like asking "How tall is the tallest dwarf?"

(Answer: 6'6" ?)

No prize for you!

 

[sago1]

They are also forgetting his problems during TC & in the preseason games. He was on the bubble because he dropped quite a few passes. Finally in the last preseason game, he looked good. As a result we kept him because of his potential with size/speed over a former Seattle WR who, after we cut him, signed with the Cards (believe he's their #3 or #4 WR). Unless Austin shows this preseason that he can consistency catch the ball, he's in trouble if any of our undrafted rookie WRs look real good or we trade/sign a vet WR who can contribute. I'm still pulling for Glenn but realistically believe his career is probably over but we will know for sure after the June minicamp (if he gets on the field) or no later then TC/preseason games.

 

[cowboyz]

i'd rather have matt jones than miles austin. matt jones has ok hands, but he has a bad work ethic and lacks the ability to separate, due to his poor route running.

miles austin has speed and no hands. no idea on his work ethic, but i bet it's pretty good. but doesn't show any football intelligence to find openings. typical work out warrior.

i think jones can do the same thing as austin and run go routes, except jones can catch those balls. and if they can somehow motivate him, he has more potential.

would not trade for him at all, he needs to show a desire to play football

 

[fortdick]

except he's never had 1st rd ability right? he has certainly never looked like a 1st rd pick...he was tall and ran a surpisingly fast 40 time before the draft, thats it

David

Your hate for Matt Jones has me wondering what he might have done to you. I can't recall anyone on this board demonstrating this much hate for a player outside our division.

That being said, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot. Marc Columbo was a first round bust in Chicago. We took a chance on him and look what happened there. First round talent showed up. Big Davis was supposed to have been lazy and a bust. He showed up Big!

Maybe if Al Davis hadn't got pissed at Marcus Allen and sat him, he would have been the all time rushing leader. Del Rio is a martinette. I can see him holding down a kid because he doesn't like the way he ties his shoes or something.

Austin is a nonfactor. Stanback is a nonfactor. Crayton may be the answer at #3, but he failed to show up when it really mattered. Hurd? Another Crayton.

Tqake a chance if the opportunity comes. If it doesn't work out, then make a run at Williams next year, if we can afford it. Capwise, we aren't going to get a Williams or Johnson this year. take Jones and see if a change of scenery can help him like it did Columbo and Davis.

 

[Stash]

Your hate for Matt Jones has me wondering what he might have done to you. I can't recall anyone on this board demonstrating this much hate for a player outside our division.

That being said, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot. Marc Columbo was a first round bust in Chicago. We took a chance on him and look what happened there. First round talent showed up. Big Davis was supposed to have been lazy and a bust. He showed up Big!

Maybe if Al Davis hadn't got pissed at Marcus Allen and sat him, he would have been the all time rushing leader. Del Rio is a martinette. I can see him holding down a kid because he doesn't like the way he ties his shoes or something.

Austin is a nonfactor. Stanback is a nonfactor. Crayton may be the answer at #3, but he failed to show up when it really mattered. Hurd? Another Crayton.

Tqake a chance if the opportunity comes. If it doesn't work out, then make a run at Williams next year, if we can afford it. Capwise, we aren't going to get a Williams or Johnson this year. take Jones and see if a change of scenery can help him like it did Columbo and Davis.

Well said!

Welcome aboard!

:beer2:

 

[speedkilz88]

I remember this WR we had several years ago, in a few years here he did nothing and was injured. Instead of working with the guy to develope, we get rid of him who turned out to be an all pro, all world wide receiver.

Train your own, build your own. They're giving up on him, we have a guy big and fast who needs more work. We're willing to give the Carpenter's of the world all the chances in the world, but god forbid if Austin drops a couple of passes, let's get him out of here.

On that note, who cares we don't make the decisions so it's useless arguing over nothing as usual.

Jimmy Smith was not some undrafted rookie they were trying to develop. He was a high second round pick taken back to back with Darren Woodson. They were really high on Jimmy, but he broke his leg as a rookie and then had an apendectomy emergency that wiped out another year which led to a money dispute with Jerry. Jerry decided to try and cut him and resign him to a lower contract and the eagles took him where he continued to do nothing for another year. The jags finally got him and in his second year with them he finally started to recover from the injuries and developed his game.

 

[jobberone]

First of all, I'm not a Matt Jones to Dallas person. I wouldn't mind having him on the cheap but that is all. I'm really not interested in his coming.

But where is the factual evidence that this guy has a poor work ethic? I'll listen to genuine statements by teammates and coaches that really say that. I don't know. I'm asking.

I will say that at Arkansas he was considered indifferent with his unique personality. There were some allegations about his attitude and work ethic. I believe his coach came to his defense saying that he had a laid back personality but that he always worked hard and played hard. I think people have the wrong idea about Matt.

 

[Stash]

First of all, I'm not a Matt Jones to Dallas person. I wouldn't mind having him on the cheap but that is all. I'm really not interested in his coming.

But where is the factual evidence that this guy has a poor work ethic? I'll listen to genuine statements by teammates and coaches that really say that. I don't know. I'm asking.

I will say that at Arkansas he was considered indifferent with his unique personality. There were some allegations about his attitude and work ethic. I believe his coach came to his defense saying that he had a laid back personality but that he always worked hard and played hard. I think people have the wrong idea about Matt.

It seems that there are two sides to the 'debate':

Del Rio has indicated that he's not happy with Jones' work ethic by a) not starting him, and b) going as far as to deactivate him for several games last season.

But Fred Taylor stood up for him and said that Jones was a good teammate and that he had no problems with him or how he worked.

One thing that surprised me was that despite being Jacksonville's leading receiver in 2006, that apparently wasn't good enough to earn the guy a starting spot?

Not sure, but I think my attitude would suffer if I was in that situation as well.

 

[jobberone]

It seems that there are two sides to the 'debate':

Del Rio has indicated that he's not happy with Jones' work ethic by a) not starting him, and b) going as far as to deactivate him for several games last season.

But Fred Taylor stood up for him and said that Jones was a good teammate and that he had no problems with him or how he worked.

One thing that surprised me was that despite being Jacksonville's leading receiver in 2006, that apparently wasn't good enough to earn the guy a starting spot?

Not sure, but I think my attitude would suffer if I was in that situation as well.

Well, Del Rio is definitely old school. If you got on his bad side I can see how he would react that way.

I have seen enough of Matt that I know his personality is different and laid back could be defined with a pic of him. But I've never seen the guy take a play off. He always looks like he's trying. He has pretty unique talent.

I wouldn't mind his being here. He could bring a skill here that we don't have now.

I'd also be surprised if Dallas hasn't already looked at this situation. I believe Del Rio and Jones are close enough to confide about this situation. So there must be a reason. It could just be they don't want to trade for him but could be interested in giving him a chance here if he were released.

 

[dbair1967]

Your hate for Matt Jones has me wondering what he might have done to you. I can't recall anyone on this board demonstrating this much hate for a player outside our division.

I dont hate him at all...I just think he flat out sux as a player and has been a mammoth bust

That being said, I wouldn't mind giving him a shot. Marc Columbo was a first round bust in Chicago. We took a chance on him and look what happened there. First round talent showed up. Big Davis was supposed to have been lazy and a bust. He showed up Big!

Marc Columbo didnt pan out in Chicago because of a knee issue, not because of lack of talent (or effort) for the position...big difference

Maybe if Al Davis hadn't got pissed at Marcus Allen and sat him, he would have been the all time rushing leader. Del Rio is a martinette. I can see him holding down a kid because he doesn't like the way he ties his shoes or something.

please, your comparing one of the best RB's the league has had to a huge bust with zero talent for the NFL WR position

Austin is a nonfactor. Stanback is a nonfactor. Crayton may be the answer at #3, but he failed to show up when it really mattered. Hurd? Another Crayton.

and Matt Jones is a non factor...the difference is he's been given every opportunity to be a factor and isnt, and Austin/Hurd have hardly played...and for the last time, Patrick Crayton is a FAR better WR than Matt Jones...there isnt a single league person who would trade Patrick Crayton for Matt Jones

Tqake a chance if the opportunity comes. If it doesn't work out, then make a run at Williams next year, if we can afford it. Capwise, we aren't going to get a Williams or Johnson this year. take Jones and see if a change of scenery can help him like it did Columbo and Davis.

why? whats he's gonna do here? the guy cant play...he cant get open and he has mediocre hands and terrible work ethic...I'd rather go with what we have and see if they can pan out rather than cut one of them for a one trick pony like Jones...Jones isnt going to be the 2nd or even 3rd WR here, therefore he is a waste of a roster spot because he offers nothing on special teams...meaning he wouldnt even be active as the 4th WR on game days

David

 

[fortdick]

I dont hate him at all...I just think he flat out sux as a player and has been a mammoth bust.

I wouldn't want to see your opinion of someone you hated! BTW, what's your opinion on Carpenter?

Marc Columbo didnt pan out in Chicago because of a knee issue, not because of lack of talent (or effort) for the position...big difference

Not really, he was out of the league when the Cowboys brought him in. Whatever the reaosn for his not playing, it was pretty clear everyone had giving up on him. You don't see a similarity?

please, your comparing one of the best RB's the league has had to a huge bust with zero talent for the NFL WR position

I hoped that you could infer from my point that Allen was sat down and not allowed to perform for no other reason than the owner didn't like him. That is what I think is happening in Jax. Maybe with a change of leadership, he could produce. Didn't I read somewhere that he lead the team in receptions in 2006? You can't be a total waste if you lead an NFL team in receptions.

and Matt Jones is a non factor...the difference is he's been given every opportunity to be a factor and isnt, and Austin/Hurd have hardly played...and for the last time, Patrick Crayton is a FAR better WR than Matt Jones...there isnt a single league person who would trade Patrick Crayton for Matt Jones

Keep saying Crayton is better. That won't make it so, but it does beg the question. Or didn't you take Philosophy?

why? whats he's gonna do here? the guy cant play...he cant get open and he has mediocre hands and terrible work ethic...I'd rather go with what we have and see if they can pan out rather than cut one of them for a one trick pony like Jones...Jones isnt going to be the 2nd or even 3rd WR here, therefore he is a waste of a roster spot because he offers nothing on special teams...meaning he wouldnt even be active as the 4th WR on game days

David

Okay, given the cap situation, and our current prospects, what would be the point in not taking a flyer on this guy? You are so sure he is a turd, but I happen to disagree with your opinion, so pounding me with nonsequiters won't change that.

Simply saying the guy is no good over and over does not make it so.

You have your opinion, I have mine. This board would be empty if we all agreed. But some people have to have everyone agree with them or they throw a fit. Which are you?