Is Matt Jones getting cut on June 1st?

[aggiecurt05]

Yeah, it's definitely not a good situation in Jacksonville.

But again, what receiver has had a good situation there lately?

In a worst case scenario, the team would give up a 6th or 7th round draft choice for him, not like what they see, and cut him before the season starts.

That's about as bad as it could get.

But the best case is that they get a guy who rebounds after a bad situation and thrives under a quality receivers coach and superior talent and scheme.

Nobody had a problem when they drafted Erik Walden - a guy who would likely have gone undrafted - in the 6th round. And he's no guarantee to even make the team.

Personally, I think Matt Jones is worth a comparable risk.

totally agree. The chances of finding a player with half the talent of Matt Jones in the 6th round is extremely unlikely. So what if he hasn't shown a ton, WR's often are slow to develop (added to the fact that he played QB in college).

 

[Stash]

totally agree. The chances of finding a player with half the talent of Matt Jones in the 6th round is extremely unlikely. So what if he hasn't shown a ton, WR's often are slow to develop (added to the fact that he played QB in college).

Welcome aboard!

:shake:

 

[DFWJC]

Yeah, it's definitely not a good situation in Jacksonville.

But again, what receiver has had a good situation there lately?

In a worst case scenario, the team would give up a 6th or 7th round draft choice for him, not like what they see, and cut him before the season starts.

That's about as bad as it could get.

But the best case is that they get a guy who rebounds after a bad situation and thrives under a quality receivers coach and superior talent and scheme.

Nobody had a problem when they drafted Erik Walden - a guy who would likely have gone undrafted - in the 6th round. And he's no guarantee to even make the team.

Personally, I think Matt Jones is worth a comparable risk.

Garrard likes him in the red zone, but he really is in the dog house with the coaching staff. Terrible work habits and route running, but the occasional brilliant flash--like last year's Houston game (8 catches, 138 yrds, 1td).

When someone is always coming off as indifferent, it's just hard to measure a true upside. Sometimes I wonder if Matt will ever have that consistent fire needed to be a very good pro.

If he pushes himself though, yes, I think he could make this team...but that is a huge if.

 

[sago1]

Saw how much interest there was in Matt Jones of the Jags so I goggled him and came across several articles but following one most interesting. Based on ref article that Jax plan keeping him thru TC for last look, we could wait until they cut him or trade 7th rounder for him so we'd have him available in TC. But Jerry should only do that if his contacts in Arkansas comes back with good things about Matt Jones & his troubles in Jax just like Jerry got info re Felix Jones from his Arksanas contacts.

Jax question his work ethic, runs poor routes, doesn't put up the effort if he's not the target, etc. He also seems to catch just slightly over half the passes thrown his way. Essentially he's a tease. He can look very good & make a great catch but then drop an easy catch because a CB was 5 yards away. In one game last year he had a really good game; caught 8 passes for about 124 yards & 1 TD. He's got the talent but motivation/effort but.....

It was stated in 1-2 articles that Jones very badly wants out of Jax. If Cowboys don't show any interest in Matt Jones then Jerry doesn't like what he's hearing back from his contacts. The big question is whether a change in scenary from Jax to Dallas would motivate Matt Jones along with the Arkansas connection to Jerry & maybe Felix.

This might be an interesting situation to watch. His 3 years of experience sure guarantees he'd be an immediate impact player IF and that is a big IF he really wants to succeed in Dallas. Don't know if he could stretch the field, but with decent speed at 6-6 who would care. Some of you are concerned we'd waste a roster spot on him. Don't think we'd trade for him cause we wouldn't want to pay him big salary his rookie contract would command. But if he's cut, willing/eager to play for us, Jerry's contacts tell him good things & Matt Jones accepts minimum 2 year contract & busts his butt in TC, maybe bringing him to Dallas might not be a bad idea at all. Heck WR coach Sherman could handle Jevon Walker so why not Matt Jones IF Jones really wants to play in the NFL and for the Cowboys.

Here's the article:

(March 08) Pro Football Weekly is reporting that it’s basically a done deal that the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to say “so long” to former first-round pick wide out Matt Jones. The paper says that one inside source says that the team will probably keep Jones around for training camp, but that he would need to have a monster camp in order to stick around and make the team. Last season Jones had just 24 catches in 12 games for 317 yards with four touchdowns.

In his short career, he has played in 42 games, making just 101 catches for 1392 yards and 13 touchdowns. Another reason why Jones will likely be gone is that the team has already been revamping its wide out core this past offseason. The team has made moves to get Jerry Porter from the Raiders via free agency, and then also made a trade to get Troy Williamson from Minnesota. All this seems to point to Jones being let go by late summer.

 

[Clove]

Why would anyone get rid of Austin for this dude? If you think Austin is trash, then you're swapping trash for trash, cause he's definitely not much of an up grade over Austin.

 

[juck]

Why would anyone get rid of Austin for this dude? If you think Austin is trash, then you're swapping trash for trash, cause he's definitely not much of an up grade over Austin.

yea right. not only is he an upgrade,but give him a qb who can get him the ball,not gerrard,grey and leftbeatch.

 

[Nightman]

Why would anyone get rid of Austin for this dude? If you think Austin is trash, then you're swapping trash for trash, cause he's definitely not much of an up grade over Austin.

It's called competition. Bring him in and sees who wins in camp. The guys has the tools, maybe not the heart or head. Austin and Hurd aren't guaranteed jobs, they have to keep earning their spots.

 

[Stash]

Why would anyone get rid of Austin for this dude? If you think Austin is trash, then you're swapping trash for trash, cause he's definitely not much of an up grade over Austin.

Miles Austin and his 5 career catches? Miles Austin's 0 receiving TD's?

Yeah.

OK.

The over-valueing of players who happen to be on the Cowboys' roster has now reached an all-time high (or low).

The fact is that Miles Austin has shown zero as a receiver. He's in a make-or-break year as it is, whether this team trades for Matt Jones or not.

 

[Clove]

I remember this WR we had several years ago, in a few years here he did nothing and was injured. Instead of working with the guy to develope, we get rid of him who turned out to be an all pro, all world wide receiver.

Train your own, build your own. They're giving up on him, we have a guy big and fast who needs more work. We're willing to give the Carpenter's of the world all the chances in the world, but god forbid if Austin drops a couple of passes, let's get him out of here.

On that note, who cares we don't make the decisions so it's useless arguing over nothing as usual.

 

[Boysboy]

I read that Williamson is looking very good in their camp. Who knows how that translates, but Williamson supposedly had a vision problem that might have affected him catching passes. If that is taken care of, then Jacksonville did well for themselves.

I'll say this, it doesn't hurt to take a look at talent. Best case, they realize their gifts. Worst case, you got an up-close look and you let them walk. For minimal risk, it's just smart business.

Pretty much EVERYONE looks good in those early mini-camps, why? B/c there's no pads, no tackling, and pretty much no pressure.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Why would anyone get rid of Austin for this dude? If you think Austin is trash, then you're swapping trash for trash, cause he's definitely not much of an up grade over Austin.

Matt Jones has produced in this league. I wouldn't mind bringing him in, assuming we're gonna cut Terry Glenn

Terrell Owens
Patrick Crayton
Matt Jones
Sam Hurd
Isiah Stanback
Danny Amendola

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Matt Jones is garbage... His stoke rose during the senior bowl because of one dumb catch.

 

[sago1]

In Matt Jones' 3 year career, he has played in 42 games, making just 101 catches for 1392 yards and 13 touchdowns. Keep in mind he converted from a QB to a WR and still produced got around 40-43 passes in his rookie season. In his 2nd year he upped his catches just a few more. Hmm. If I'm not mistaken Crayton had best season of his 4 year career in 07 when he caught 50 passes for about 7 TDs. So Jones can play in the NFL if he really wants too and that is the big question. If I'm Jerry Jones I checked this guy out with my Arkansas connections to find out what they think about what's going on, etc. If I like what they say, I try to pick him up after he gets cut cause I don't want to pay him on the big contract he probably carrying as a former first rounder.

It's fine to cite the case of our giving up on Jimmy Smith and his going to the Jax where he had a pro bowl career. But for the last 10 years we've had several WRs we brought in who showed lot of speed but inconsistent hands. Can't remember the WR we had in 98 who dropped the first 3 passes Aikman through to him in the playoff game. I think that ended his career with Dallas. After that it was Macy Brooks, who had great size and looked good during minicamps through preseason but not in the regular season. Gave up on him after a few years and the list goes on. Right now Miles Austin is the guy. Also for what it's worth, Carpenter is entering his 3rd year with the Cowboys & we are looking for him to step it up. We expect the same from Austin who also entering his 3rd yard. So I don't see we treating either of them different from the other. I still subscribe to Parcells (and Landry's) old rule. Give a player 3 years & if he can't show enough he's gone.

 

[Boysboy]

Oh brother-why don't we just sign EVERYBODY that gets cut.

While we're at it-why not trade Ellis and Roy to Philly for Lito-after all, our secondary needs some help, and we don't need whiners on our roster.:bang2:

 

[Achozen]

I'd defiantly take Jones and drop Austin. Austin has only shown he can return kicks, and now that we have options at KR, he's expendable.

People are forgetting the TD drops in the Washington game.

 

[burmafrd]

First thing a WR must do is catch the ball. Nothing else means a thing unless you catch the ball. Austin is more and more reminding me of Randall Williams.

 

[Stash]

I remember this WR we had several years ago, in a few years here he did nothing and was injured. Instead of working with the guy to develope, we get rid of him who turned out to be an all pro, all world wide receiver.

Train your own, build your own. They're giving up on him, we have a guy big and fast who needs more work. We're willing to give the Carpenter's of the world all the chances in the world, but god forbid if Austin drops a couple of passes, let's get him out of here.

So, the Cowboys gave up early on a wide receiver who had success afterwards in Jacksonville?

Hmmm.

Figure there's any chance that the reverse could happen here?

Naaahhh.

Austin has 5 career catches. And yet somehow he's this 'diamond' that we couldn't possibly get rid of? Not to me he isn't. His kick return abilities have kept him around this long and with the addition of multiple players who can return kicks (not to mention Stanback), Austin no longer has that to fall back on.

He either produces or he's gone (to Miami).

On that note, who cares we don't make the decisions so it's useless arguing over nothing as usual.

Guess we should shut the board down then.....

 

[Stash]

In Matt Jones' 3 year career, he has played in 42 games, making just 101 catches for 1392 yards and 13 touchdowns. Keep in mind he converted from a QB to a WR and still produced got around 40-43 passes in his rookie season. In his 2nd year he upped his catches just a few more. Hmm. If I'm not mistaken Crayton had best season of his 4 year career in 07 when he caught 50 passes for about 7 TDs. So Jones can play in the NFL if he really wants too and that is the big question. If I'm Jerry Jones I checked this guy out with my Arkansas connections to find out what they think about what's going on, etc. If I like what they say, I try to pick him up after he gets cut cause I don't want to pay him on the big contract he probably carrying as a former first rounder.

Actually, he's only due $625,000.00 base salary on his current rookie deal, so there should be no issue with contract.

I would use a draft pick to ensure that I got the player I wanted before he was claimed by another team in waivers, much like Washington recently did with Erasmus James.

A 6th or 7th round draft pick is nothing, especially considering the extra and compensatory picks this team will have in 2009.

 

[ZeroClub]

If you can obtain Matt Jones for a half a bag of peanuts, make the trade. Otherwise, pass.

Stash, I hope that you'll put together a list of Matt Jones myths. That'd be fun.

 

[Stash]

If you can obtain Matt Jones for a half a bag of peanuts, make the trade. Otherwise, pass.

Only half a bag? Is that equal to a 6th round draft pick?

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Stash, I hope that you'll put together a list of Matt Jones myths. That'd be fun.

And have Adam come in and completely abuse me with his numbers?

No thanks.

I'm still trying to debunk the myth that some believe that he's simply worthless, that's tough enough!

:abuseme: