Is Philly better at building teams than us?

[Sydla]

Again, stop shifting the question .

LOL, shifting the question.

The question was who does a better job of building a team? The Cowboys or the Eagles? The answer is clearly the team that won a SB in 2017 and played in a SB just last year. But you seem to think a better indicator of roster strength is head to head, which is utterly preposterous.

 

[Sydla]

No you stop moving the goalpost. Their SB appearances are theirs. The question was do they build teams better than us. You are one of those who want to say That they won a SB

Closer than we have. How is their SB championship better than our Five ? Both of them were in the past . Disappear ? why would I disappear, and why wouldn't I answer the question

7-3 means we beat them more than they beat us. Who is better at building teams? We are

This is idiotic. We won SBs UNDER A DIFFERENT REGIME. Since Johnson left and his team's were dismantled due the cap and age, Jerry Jones has delievered ZERO NFCCG appearances. And if you limit this to Roseman versus Jerry as GMs, it's not even close either.

 

[Sydla]

Again, you are animated by what you are animated by. My fanhood is not based on championships. Enjoy what makes you happy, but don't get mad

at me because I get enjoyment from something totally different. I don't root based on championships,

Now who is shifting the goal posts? We aren't talking about the enjoyment you get from watching them play.

We are basically asking who has been more successful at building rosters and currently, it's Philly. There is really no debate at this point. You are simply a blinded homer. Anyone that puts head to head as a better indicator of overall roster strength over postseason success is a special kind of homer.

 

[StylisticS]

No you stop moving the goalpost. Their SB appearances are theirs. The question was do they build teams better than us. You are one of those who want to say That they won a SB

Closer than we have. How is their SB championship better than our Five ? Both of them were in the past . Disappear ? why would I disappear, and why wouldn't I answer the question

7-3 means we beat them more than they beat us. Who is better at building teams? We are

If we are better at building teams, why hasn't it showed in the postseason? It seems to work for Philly. The won a superbowl, rebuilt their team, and played in another one while we throw parades for winning wild card games. I would glady trade going 3-7 vs our rival if it meant we have won a super bowl and two conference titles with a great chance of playing in a third this year over 7-3, flaming out in the divisional round, and be known as a team that can't perform when it matters.

 

[Sydla]

If we are better at building teams, why hasn't it showed in the postseason? It seems to work for Philly. The won a superbowl, rebuilt their team, and played in another one while we throw parades for winning wild card games. I would glady trade going 3-7 vs our rival if it meant we have won a super bowl and two conference titles with a great chance of playing in a third this year over 7-3, flaming out in the divisional round, and be known as a team that can't perform when it matters.

You just have to chuckle at someone trying to argue that head to head is a better indicator of quality of roster than postseason success.

LOL. Sometimes you just gotta step back and bask in the awesomeness that is our fanbase.

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

If we are better at building teams, why hasn't it showed in the postseason? It seems to work for Philly. The won a superbowl, rebuilt their team, and played in another one while we throw parades for winning wild card games. I would glady trade going 3-7 vs our rival if it meant we have won a super bowl and two conference titles with a great chance of playing in a third this year over 7-3, flaming out in the divisional round, and be known as a team that can't perform when it matters.

Ya'll got my answer

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

Now who is shifting the goal posts? We aren't talking about the enjoyment you get from watching them play.

We are basically asking who has been more successful at building rosters and currently, it's Philly. There is really no debate at this point. You are simply a blinded homer. Anyone that puts head to head as a better indicator of overall roster strength over postseason success is a special kind of homer.

First , of course I'm a Homer, I'm a Dallas Cowboys HOMER ! Is that supposed to be an insult , because I assure you, it's not. A Special kind of Homer, why thank you ! Seriously

Thank You !

 

[StylisticS]

Ya'll got my answer

wow

 

[DandyDon52]

better HC's, better owner, best GM in nfc , maybe NFL, so yeah they are better at team building.
Been to 2 SB's in last 5 years or so. Dallas hasnt got past the div round.

 

[plasticman]

The Eagles record over the previous three seasons is 27-22-1 whereas the Cowboys record is 30-20.

During this time period the Eagles have been to the playoffs twice and the Cowboys twice with the Eagles going further than the Cowboys on one occasion.

The average rank for the Eagles scoring offense was 14th and the Cowboys was 7th. Defensively the Eagles were 15th and the Cowboys 13th.

Their head to head record over the previous 3 seasons is Cowboys 4 Eagles 2

It would seem to be pretty even at this particular point in time.

 

[blueblood70]

No, I was quoting YOUR post.

That said, no worries if I don't fit your "club mentaltiy" per post count.

Honestly, I probably spend more time on this forum than I post. That said, a buddy and I are on another "hobby forum" that started in the late 90's. He has over 300k of posts on the forum and I only have about 1,200 after over 20 years.

But I do completely agree with you that way too many here speak of another team on this forum.

I just love how everyone here predicts the entire game after the first drive of the game and the entire season off a couple of games.

Correct I come here to talk about the Cowboys if we're playing a certain team that week sure everything's open for discussion but we're over here patting the other teams on the back that are rivals that's like changing jerseys with the enemy it's getting old nowadays there are other parts of this forum that that's allowed but on the main cowboy zone area it should not be allowed I'm tired of having that opened up for discussion when we're drooling over our rivals before we ever even play them yet... Again this is supposed to be a safe zone I come here to be with other fans of the Dallas Cowboys and I don't wanna hear about the Eagles the giants the Commanders the 49ers whatever unless we're playing them but when they open up three subjects on the front page about this team and it's GM and they're better and blah blah blah it should not be allowed that's not why I come here..

 

[Sydla]

The Eagles record over the previous three seasons is 27-22-1 whereas the Cowboys record is 30-20.

During this time period the Eagles have been to the playoffs twice and the Cowboys twice with the Eagles going further than the Cowboys on one occasion.

The average rank for the Eagles scoring offense was 14th and the Cowboys was 7th. Defensively the Eagles were 15th and the Cowboys 13th.

Their head to head record over the previous 3 seasons is Cowboys 4 Eagles 2

It would seem to be pretty even at this particular point in time.

One went to a SB.

One also was going through a major roster shift including dumping a high priced QB and replacing him with a 2nd round pick. The other has been riding a supposed Top 10 vet QB for those three years.

There is no serious argument that one can make that suggests we build a team/roster and even coaching staff as well as Philly right now.

 

[DZSierra]

Again this is supposed to be a safe zone I come here to be with other fans of the Dallas Cowboys and I don't wanna hear about the Eagles the giants the Commanders the 49ers whatever unless we're playing them but when they open up three subjects on the front page about this team and it's GM and they're better and blah blah blah it should not be allowed that's not why I come here..

Agreed. Not certain why this thread isn't in the NFL zone.

I'm old enough that I remember when the Cowboys were expected to win. They had some great teams in the 70's and it always seemed like Staubach vs Bradshaw in the SB that decade to me. As someone who has never lived in the state of Texas, I still scratch my head on why the team was ever sold to begin with as I didn't keep up with it as a kid and I followed players, not owners. Even the phrase "America's team" was coined in the late 70's. Even in the 80's, yes they had some loosing seasons, but what team doesn't after a decade?

Getting off tangent, but my point is I think it's become the mindset that given the leadership by the current owner, sooner or later he's going to blow it to actually win during the year or end of the year. I understand that people want to compare teams, but as mentioned, when the team isn't ABOUT the Cowboys, it belongs in the NFL zone IMO.

 

[Sydla]

Agreed. Not certain why this thread isn't in the NFL zone.

I'm old enough that I remember when the Cowboys were expected to win. They had some great teams in the 70's and it always seemed like Staubach vs Bradshaw in the SB that decade to me. As someone who has never lived in the state of Texas, I still scratch my head on why the team was ever sold to begin with as I didn't keep up with it as a kid and I followed players, not owners. Even the phrase "America's team" was coined in the late 70's. Even in the 80's, yes they had some loosing seasons, but what team doesn't after a decade?

Getting off tangent, but my point is I think it's become the mindset that given the leadership by the current owner, sooner or later he's going to blow it to actually win during the year or end of the year. I understand that people want to compare teams, but as mentioned, when the team isn't ABOUT the Cowboys, it belongs in the NFL zone IMO.

It's our prime rival for the division title. It's our prime rival/impediment to getting, finally, to a SB after 25 years of futility.

It makes perfect sense to discuss a team that has a heavy influence in how our season will go/be judged.

The problem is that the Eagles simply are better right now. They are run better. They are playing better. They just went to a SB. They just made a pretty important trade that solidifies one of their biggest weaknesses. They are likely the favorite in the NFC to make the SB. And that bugs the homer crowd so they don't want to see references to Philly because it makes their head hurt.

Look at this way. If Philly was actually 2-5 right now and there were a couple of threads laughing at them or comparing Dallas to them and how Dallas is doing it better, suddenly guys like blueblood would have zero problems with another team being discussed on this board.

 

[tomokawan]

I am not jealous of Eagles. Just wish we had done much better in 28 years. It is frustrating as a long time fan.

 

[Cowboys1966]

It's our prime rival for the division title. It's our prime rival/impediment to getting, finally, to a SB after 25 years of futility.

It makes perfect sense to discuss a team that has a heavy influence in how our season will go/be judged.

The problem is that the Eagles simply are better right now. They are run better. They are playing better. They just went to a SB. They just made a pretty important trade that solidifies one of their biggest weaknesses. They are likely the favorite in the NFC to make the SB. And that bugs the homer crowd so they don't want to see references to Philly because it makes their head hurt.

Look at this way. If Philly was actually 2-5 right now and there were a couple of threads laughing at them or comparing Dallas to them and how Dallas is doing it better, suddenly guys like blueblood would have zero problems with another team being discussed on this board.

But we beat them 7 out of the last 10 head to head… That’s all that matters lol

 

[tomsanders921]

Parsons has stated multiple times how much he admires the eagles ability to acquire top tier talent.

I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up an eagle when his contract is up. Either that, or Jerry is going to get swindled in contract negotiations once again and give him a ridiculous contract.

 

[plasticman]

One went to a SB.

One also was going through a major roster shift including dumping a high priced QB and replacing him with a 2nd round pick. The other has been riding a supposed Top 10 vet QB for those three years.

There is no serious argument that one can make that suggests we build a team/roster and even coaching staff as well as Philly right now.

So, if the Cowboys went 0-16 twice after winning the Super Bowl, they would still be a better team over the past three seasons by virtue of that Super Bowl year?

The fact that the Eagles lost two weeks later than the Cowboys in one of the past three seasons trumps every other measure combined?

I'm not saying that the Cowboys are better at building teams than the Eagles, I'm saying it's too close to call.

Almost every single team in the NFL went through a complete roster change since the year the Eagles won a Super Bowl

 

[KMY_Amber]

Lately, over the last decade, of course they are better at it than the Cowboys.

They won the Superbowl in 2018, and lost the last Superbowl earlier this year (with a different QB and HC).

We Cowboys fans are merely hoping for a "deep playoff run".

Why is this even a thread? LOL

 

[CCBoy]

you post that tirade and then say I’m full of myself? Lol at you.

Now prove what you claim...the Eagles are just better and smarter! Own up and let's go...you hide behind one liner labels.


'they won a Super Bowl before hurts… 2017, is that recent enough for you?'
That is what you commented to me!




The Eagles dropped Andy Reid, after he took the Eagles to the Super Bowl and now HIS time hit #1 in Kansas City.

The current time line for the Eagles is with their 3 last seasons where they took to the draft a ton of picks that turned them BACK around.

A person doesn't state 1 or 2 good things and then proceed to add up their own negatives. One pays attention to all good things and add them up before doing an analysis...unless agenda is one's real motivation.