Is Philly better at building teams than us?

CCBoy

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When did I ever said I hate Jerry? I challenge you to find a single post where I said I didn't like him. In fact, don't bother, as I'd hate to see you waste 10 hours of time on something you won't find. Liking teh job another team's GM does does not mean I hate our front office. I do think we can do better, nothing more.

The overall picture of the last two seasons? They got to the Super Bowl and we didn't. Straight up fact, not slander. When was the last time I said Go Cowboys? Hmm,, maybe when I predicted in another thread that we will beat them in two weeks. Go to bed little boy. Dream about women you'll never have.
I'm 75, with retirements from service - Army, Postal, and 3 months ago a Correctional Facility Officer...I've been married for 36 years are you are little more than an insult remaining active. Just see a recruiter and shut up.:thumbdown:
 

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I'm 75, with retirements from service - Army, Postal, and 3 months ago a Correctional Facility Officer...I've been married for 36 years are you are little more than an insult remaining active. Just see a recruiter and shut up.:thumbdown:
Ah, you have no argument anymore, so you resort to insults. You are just as bad as some of the Eagle fans hiding in the bushes here.
 

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It shows on the field. Dallas has not been to a single NFC Conference game in the 21st Century. Eagles have won a Superbowl
What shows...a Super Bowl listing? So?

They have been competitive in the playoffs actually at a high level of percentage in the NFL The team has been competitive, into playoffs, and actually top ranked in the NFC more than once entering with a high level of wins.

No, it shows on entrances into the Super Bowl...not level of play. Huge difference. They have been competitive at top shelf levels...or are you really foolish to open yourself up to facts there? Let's go...issue your insult...I'm waiting for a real response. You won't...and that shows a cowards approach in life. I'll wait for you to actually chamber a round...to fire a real volley for discussion.:popcorn:
 

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Excuse me, how many Super Bowls did the Eagles win? And how many Super Bowls have been played?

How many years did the Eagles dominate with their impressive team?
I imagine you would not hold the new owners of the Washington NFL franchise responsible for the teams performance under the previous ownership group. Jeffrey Lurie’s first season as owner of the Philadelphia NFL franchise was 1995. It would be fair to judge the the Eagles’ current owner on the organization’s performance, compared to other NFL franchises, starting with the 1995 season. I’ll leave you to decide whether or not Lurie runs an “impressive” NFL franchise.
 

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When did I ever said I hate Jerry? I challenge you to find a single post where I said I didn't like him. In fact, don't bother, as I'd hate to see you waste 10 hours of time on something you won't find. Liking teh job another team's GM does does not mean I hate our front office. I do think we can do better, nothing more.

The overall picture of the last two seasons? They got to the Super Bowl and we didn't. Straight up fact, not slander. When was the last time I said Go Cowboys? Hmm,, maybe when I predicted in another thread that we will beat them in two weeks. Go to bed little boy. Dream about women you'll never have.
I hate Jerry. But, I always dream about women I'll never have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't tell the wifey!!!! Just last week she was Scarlet Johannsen. Hey, I do get to have women I'll never have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I hate Jerry. But, I always dream about women I'll never have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't tell the wifey!!!! Just last week she was Scarlet Johannsen. Hey, I do get to have women I'll never have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanted Ginger AND Mary Ann. Ah, the dreams of days long past…
 

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I imagine you would not hold the new owners of the Washington NFL franchise responsible for the teams performance under the previous ownership group. Jeffrey Lurie’s first season as owner of the Philadelphia NFL franchise was 1995. It would be fair to judge the the Eagles’ current owner on the organization’s performance, compared to other NFL franchises, starting with the 1995 season. I’ll leave you to decide whether or not Lurie runs an “impressive” NFL franchise.
I may be unique in this but I could care less about owners. It annoys me whenever they are a subject matter. How many points do they score? How many blocks do they make? What half-time adjustments do they make? Pick a GM, sit down and shut up, at least, that's what the smart ones do. That's also what the not so smart ones do. I don't know what to call an owner that thinks he should be the GM.

When an owner buys the team, what exactly is he buying? If that team won a Super Bowl with the previous owner, does he get to take that trophy with him? What makes a franchise valuable? How is the new owner going to profit from his purchase?

The owner didn't buy a building. He certainly didn't buy human beings. He bought the right to make money through his purchase and he won't hesitate to use his franchise's rich history in his effort. What, is Lurie refusing to sell McNabb jerseys? Do you think Jerry Jones ignores the past accomplishments?

Good or bad, the owner buys that team's legacy and its quality is one of the most important components that sets the price on franchises. Even so, Lurie bought the team in 1995? Okay, he's had the team for 28 years. Even starting out as an expansion franchise, the Cowboys played in two NFL championship games before the Super Bowl and then they played in five Super Bowls, winning two. This was all prior their 28th season.

The Dallas Cowboys had the longest streak of consecutive winning seasons in history. They had twenty seasons. The longest streak in Eagles history is six seasons and you have to go as far back as the late 1940's to find it.

The Eagles have never been good at building teams capable of winning championships. They didn't build that team in 2017, they bought it with a credit card and it took four seasons to pay it back. You can definitely tell the difference when you look at the seasons that follow their Super Bowl. The Rams obviously bought a Super Bowl. That has never been the Cowboy way.

When you truly build a team then you are at the top for several seasons. I'm relieved that Jerry Jones appears to have finally learned that after almost three decades of failure. This team isn't completely built but at least Jerry is avoiding the urge to mortgage the future doing patchwork. I mean, he's not investing premium draft picks to "fill a need".
 

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I may be unique in this but I could care less about owners. It annoys me whenever they are a subject matter. How many points do they score? How many blocks do they make? What half-time adjustments do they make? Pick a GM, sit down and shut up, at least, that's what the smart ones do. That's also what the not so smart ones do. I don't know what to call an owner that thinks he should be the GM.

When an owner buys the team, what exactly is he buying? If that team won a Super Bowl with the previous owner, does he get to take that trophy with him? What makes a franchise valuable? How is the new owner going to profit from his purchase?

The owner didn't buy a building. He certainly didn't buy human beings. He bought the right to make money through his purchase and he won't hesitate to use his franchise's rich history in his effort. What, is Lurie refusing to sell McNabb jerseys? Do you think Jerry Jones ignores the past accomplishments?

Good or bad, the owner buys that team's legacy and its quality is one of the most important components that sets the price on franchises. Even so, Lurie bought the team in 1995? Okay, he's had the team for 28 years. Even starting out as an expansion franchise, the Cowboys played in two NFL championship games before the Super Bowl and then they played in five Super Bowls, winning two. This was all prior their 28th season.

The Dallas Cowboys had the longest streak of consecutive winning seasons in history. They had twenty seasons. The longest streak in Eagles history is six seasons and you have to go as far back as the late 1940's to find it.

The Eagles have never been good at building teams capable of winning championships. They didn't build that team in 2017, they bought it with a credit card and it took four seasons to pay it back. You can definitely tell the difference when you look at the seasons that follow their Super Bowl. The Rams obviously bought a Super Bowl. That has never been the Cowboy way.

When you truly build a team then you are at the top for several seasons. I'm relieved that Jerry Jones appears to have finally learned that after almost three decades of failure. This team isn't completely built but at least Jerry is avoiding the urge to mortgage the future doing patchwork. I mean, he's not investing premium draft picks to "fill a need".
What a load of horse — this is…
 

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I may be unique in this but I could care less about owners. It annoys me whenever they are a subject matter. How many points do they score? How many blocks do they make? What half-time adjustments do they make? Pick a GM, sit down and shut up, at least, that's what the smart ones do. That's also what the not so smart ones do. I don't know what to call an owner that thinks he should be the GM.

When an owner buys the team, what exactly is he buying? If that team won a Super Bowl with the previous owner, does he get to take that trophy with him? What makes a franchise valuable? How is the new owner going to profit from his purchase?

The owner didn't buy a building. He certainly didn't buy human beings. He bought the right to make money through his purchase and he won't hesitate to use his franchise's rich history in his effort. What, is Lurie refusing to sell McNabb jerseys? Do you think Jerry Jones ignores the past accomplishments?

Good or bad, the owner buys that team's legacy and its quality is one of the most important components that sets the price on franchises. Even so, Lurie bought the team in 1995? Okay, he's had the team for 28 years. Even starting out as an expansion franchise, the Cowboys played in two NFL championship games before the Super Bowl and then they played in five Super Bowls, winning two. This was all prior their 28th season.

The Dallas Cowboys had the longest streak of consecutive winning seasons in history. They had twenty seasons. The longest streak in Eagles history is six seasons and you have to go as far back as the late 1940's to find it.

The Eagles have never been good at building teams capable of winning championships. They didn't build that team in 2017, they bought it with a credit card and it took four seasons to pay it back. You can definitely tell the difference when you look at the seasons that follow their Super Bowl. The Rams obviously bought a Super Bowl. That has never been the Cowboy way.

When you truly build a team then you are at the top for several seasons. I'm relieved that Jerry Jones appears to have finally learned that after almost three decades of failure. This team isn't completely built but at least Jerry is avoiding the urge to mortgage the future doing patchwork. I mean, he's not investing premium draft picks to "fill a need".
No. The new owner does not own or get credit for the team’s legacy. If the ownership group purchases a team that has won Super Bowls do they get the credit for winning them? That’s ridiculous. Look at how teams’ current ownership groups have run their organizations starting with the moment they purchase the franchise. I don’t know who the devil Jeffrey Lurie is but he tried to purchase the Rams, didn’t get them, wanted the Baltimore expansion franchise, didn’t get it, purchased the Philadelphia franchise. Since he took control of it the franchise has been a comparably successful one. I live in Northern California, but I do know he does not have a weekly radio show. If he were sitting on the barstool next to me I would not recognize him. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard Roseman’s voice on TV or radio. What the Eagles’ owner and VP of Operations lack in providing fanfare they make up for with their team’s performance. As for selling their future for a Super Bowl, they went to one and five years later were in another one. That team has a first and two seconds in the next draft and over $40 million in cap space next season. They’re 6-1 right now. It seems like they’re in a good place compared to a lot of other NFL teams.
 

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When you truly build a team then you are at the top for several seasons. I'm relieved that Jerry Jones appears to have finally learned that after almost three decades of failure. This team isn't completely built but at least Jerry is avoiding the urge to mortgage the future doing patchwork. I mean, he's not investing premium draft picks to "fill a need".
What do you mean mortgage the future? Philadelphia, Buffalo, and KC are the only teams in the league to go to the playoffs 5 of the last 6 seasons. And this year will be 6 of 7. In that span, Philadelphia has made it as far or further than Dallas in the playoffs every single year.

Nothing is being compromised, nothing is being mortgaged, Philly has a ton of cap space next offseason. This is a valid way to build longterm contenders. Dallas’ approach is questionable in that regard, not Philly’s.
 

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I may be unique in this but I could care less about owners. It annoys me whenever they are a subject matter. How many points do they score? How many blocks do they make? What half-time adjustments do they make? Pick a GM, sit down and shut up, at least, that's what the smart ones do. That's also what the not so smart ones do. I don't know what to call an owner that thinks he should be the GM.

When an owner buys the team, what exactly is he buying? If that team won a Super Bowl with the previous owner, does he get to take that trophy with him? What makes a franchise valuable? How is the new owner going to profit from his purchase?

The owner didn't buy a building. He certainly didn't buy human beings. He bought the right to make money through his purchase and he won't hesitate to use his franchise's rich history in his effort. What, is Lurie refusing to sell McNabb jerseys? Do you think Jerry Jones ignores the past accomplishments?

Good or bad, the owner buys that team's legacy and its quality is one of the most important components that sets the price on franchises. Even so, Lurie bought the team in 1995? Okay, he's had the team for 28 years. Even starting out as an expansion franchise, the Cowboys played in two NFL championship games before the Super Bowl and then they played in five Super Bowls, winning two. This was all prior their 28th season.

The Dallas Cowboys had the longest streak of consecutive winning seasons in history. They had twenty seasons. The longest streak in Eagles history is six seasons and you have to go as far back as the late 1940's to find it.

The Eagles have never been good at building teams capable of winning championships. They didn't build that team in 2017, they bought it with a credit card and it took four seasons to pay it back. You can definitely tell the difference when you look at the seasons that follow their Super Bowl. The Rams obviously bought a Super Bowl. That has never been the Cowboy way.

When you truly build a team then you are at the top for several seasons. I'm relieved that Jerry Jones appears to have finally learned that after almost three decades of failure. This team isn't completely built but at least Jerry is avoiding the urge to mortgage the future doing patchwork. I mean, he's not investing premium draft picks to "fill a need".
I never cared about owners until this one.

I'm not sure Jerry has learned much of anything. We still can't stop the run at key times, and we're still drafting DB's w/ stiff hips and overdrafting unneeded TE's in the 2nd.
 

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Philly is better at decoupling the GM from meddling with coaching decisions, from personnel to game plan and who plays and sits . That’s healthier for an organization.
 

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I may be unique in this but I could care less about owners. It annoys me whenever they are a subject matter. How many points do they score? How many blocks do they make? What half-time adjustments do they make? Pick a GM, sit down and shut up, at least, that's what the smart ones do. That's also what the not so smart ones do. I don't know what to call an owner that thinks he should be the GM.

When an owner buys the team, what exactly is he buying? If that team won a Super Bowl with the previous owner, does he get to take that trophy with him? What makes a franchise valuable? How is the new owner going to profit from his purchase?

The owner didn't buy a building. He certainly didn't buy human beings. He bought the right to make money through his purchase and he won't hesitate to use his franchise's rich history in his effort. What, is Lurie refusing to sell McNabb jerseys? Do you think Jerry Jones ignores the past accomplishments?

Good or bad, the owner buys that team's legacy and its quality is one of the most important components that sets the price on franchises. Even so, Lurie bought the team in 1995? Okay, he's had the team for 28 years. Even starting out as an expansion franchise, the Cowboys played in two NFL championship games before the Super Bowl and then they played in five Super Bowls, winning two. This was all prior their 28th season.

The Dallas Cowboys had the longest streak of consecutive winning seasons in history. They had twenty seasons. The longest streak in Eagles history is six seasons and you have to go as far back as the late 1940's to find it.

The Eagles have never been good at building teams capable of winning championships. They didn't build that team in 2017, they bought it with a credit card and it took four seasons to pay it back. You can definitely tell the difference when you look at the seasons that follow their Super Bowl. The Rams obviously bought a Super Bowl. That has never been the Cowboy way.

When you truly build a team then you are at the top for several seasons. I'm relieved that Jerry Jones appears to have finally learned that after almost three decades of failure. This team isn't completely built but at least Jerry is avoiding the urge to mortgage the future doing patchwork. I mean, he's not investing premium draft picks to "fill a need".

This is a complete steaming pile of you know what, especially this part. Those four seasons to pay it back? LOL, they were basically just as good as our 4 seasons doing it the "Cowboys way".

Think about that. The Eagles ramped up for the 2017 SB, they won, they used the next four years rebuilding the team again and had basically as much, if not more success since that 2017 as the Cowboys.

And yet you are going to sit here and criticize how they build a team compared to us? Hahahahaha. No offense, but you might be the most obtuse poster here. Maybe moreso than Rockport.
 

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What shows...a Super Bowl listing? So?

They have been competitive in the playoffs actually at a high level of percentage in the NFL The team has been competitive, into playoffs, and actually top ranked in the NFC more than once entering with a high level of wins.

No, it shows on entrances into the Super Bowl...not level of play. Huge difference. They have been competitive at top shelf levels...or are you really foolish to open yourself up to facts there? Let's go...issue your insult...I'm waiting for a real response. You won't...and that shows a cowards approach in life. I'll wait for you to actually chamber a round...to fire a real volley for discussion.:popcorn:
The rationalizations you homers go through is impressive.

We now have gone into the nebulous world where apparently playoff success and SB appearances don't matter but what matters is that the Cowboys have been "competitive at top shelf levels"?

Now maybe it's just me, but the time to show your mettle, your skill, your competitive acumen is playoff time. That's when you typically face the best teams, when you have to perform at your best, where your roster shows it's true worth................. and we have failed disgustingly for 25+ years in that arena. And most certainly failed when compared to what the Eagles have done over the same time period.
 
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