Darthkuriboh
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yes. He overcame terrible coaching and took what would be 3-13 teams to the playoffs almost every year
yes. He overcame terrible coaching and took what would be 3-13 teams to the playoffs almost every year
He still has better stats than John ElwayAnd he still probably wouldn’t throw for many touchdowns and still wouldn’t have any championships in the NFL. Like I said he was all about passing yards. He passed for 527 yards against KC in the early 90s which was the second most passing yards in a single game in NFL history but his team lost. Great pure passer but I don’t think he was a Hall of Fame player based on his playoff resume and lack of TD passes. He had 291 career touchdowns compared to 233 career INT’s and his playoff record was 3-7.
People, this isn't based on team stats, it's league wide compared to QBs during the same era.Statistically he was for 7 of those 9 years, two of which were cut short by injury He also kept the Cowboy's offense consistently in the top ten in Points Per Drive his entire career which is one of the most important correlative stats to winning in the NFL.
It’s quite amazing.
The same GM that put zero talent around Romo and have him diddly squat to work with, now has built a team that would be odds on favorites to win the super bowl if it weren’t for Dak.
Amazing.
Romo isn’t on moons level.
Warren Moon would be throwing for 5k yards every year in this era. Stop
No unless Romo's post-Cowboys career develops into a Contributor worthy one, whch is the hall of fame route for some inductees. The Andy Dalton comment is transparent and unnecessary for your OP.Cowboys Zone tells me he’s a top 5 quarterback along the likes of SUPERBOWL winners like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Ben, and Manning.
Will the all time great Romo be in the hall of fame?
Or is he just Andy Dalton 2.0 a career loser?
Ouch.He has Hall of Fame numbers, but he doesn’t have the playoff success that quarterbacks are expected to have.
Romo excels at exposing the shining examples of Dunning-Krueger around here.
Cowboys Zone tells me he’s a top 5 quarterback along the likes of SUPERBOWL winners like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Ben, and Manning.
Will the all time great Romo be in the hall of fame?
Or is he just Andy Dalton 2.0 a career loser?
Playoffs almost every year? Romo? What?yes. He overcame terrible coaching and took what would be 3-13 teams to the playoffs almost every year
Which is a really long way of saying that he did nothing in the playoffs, especially since his playoff numbers were considerably worse than his regular season numbers.I wouldn’t say Marino didn’t do anything. He played in 18 playoff games.. Only 2 seasons did he only play in one, the rest were multiple playoff appearances and of course the one Super Bowl appearance.
Romo's post-Cowboys career must be more football specific and intensive that expands beyond television broadcasting. Pat Summerall played in the league and was an outstanding NFL announcer but has never been inducted into the Hall.Romo had a solid QB career. Impressive stats and a good Win/Loss record.
I also think his broadcasting career will give him a solid shot at the HoF. He obviously has a very high Football IQ. Impressive.
Give it about 10 years though.
Passing yards are meaningless because it puts players like Eli Manning into a context they don't belong. Moon, Marino, Favre, etc. are not Eli's peers....and I don't think Moon should be in the HoF anyways, though he has a much better case than Eli.Tell Warren Moon passing yards are meaningless. Moon being 4th on the all-time passing list when he retired is the main reason he's in the HOF. He himself admitted that. He won virtually nothing in the NFL and didn't have a good playoff record. He was the QB of a Houston team that coughed up a 32 point lead in the 92 playoffs. The HOF committee looks at all a QBs numbers. Fouts and Marino were putting up big numbers in the 80s before all the rule changes. Having only 6 QBs ahead of Eli on the all-time passing list means he was consistent over a long period of years. Not many QBs have been the QB of the same NFL team for 15 years. If Eli sucked like you claim he would have been run out of NY a long time ago. NY isn't exactly a QB friendly city, just look at how many QBs the Jets have gone through over the years.
Eli has more SB wins than 12 of the QBs you named and he beat arguably the greatest QB of all-time in two SBs. He beat an undefeated Pats team in the SB and is the only QB to ever lead a 9-7 team to a SB championship. As for passer ratings they don't mean crap! There's HOF QBs that have worse passer ratings than several journeymen QBs. Where did Romo's career high 97.1 passer rating that has him 5th all-time ever get him? Kirk Cousins is 9th on that list and he's never won a single playoff game. Eli's resume has everything that makes him a virtual lock for the HOF. He's 7th on the all-time passing list. He has 2 SB wins and 2 SB MVPs and has 8-3 playoff record. I get the hatred some Cowboys fans have for Eli. It's all because he beat the Cowboys in some do or die games enabling the Giants to go on and win the SB.
The wounds from the 2007 and 2011 seasons are still festering for many Cowboys. Had the Cowboys hung on to a 12 point lead over the Giants in Dec 2011 to win that game and the rest of the season played out the way it did for both teams, the Cowboys would have won the division and the Giants would have been the team sitting home. If you choose hate a player and claim they suck because they came through against the Cowboys in some very critical games that led to him and his team winning a couple of SBs go ahead but I don't live in that world.
It is amazing how we had a team before and after Romo that was just lacking a QB but never had a team when we had Romo.It’s quite amazing.
The same GM that put zero talent around Romo and have him diddly squat to work with, now has built a team that would be odds on favorites to win the super bowl if it weren’t for Dak.
Amazing.
Ok fine, then we'll go by fame. Tebow and Kaepernick are about as famous as it gets. A bunch of OL are in who certainly weren't famous. "fame" means nothing.I didn't think it needed to be said that the fame is tied to playing the game. And, the CONNOTATION of the word is infamy or notoriety. Fame has a positive connotation. Fame that is negative is called infamy or notoriety.
Hernandez was not famous. He was infamous or notorious.
No argument is 100 percent. That's why Dan Marino, Warren Moon and Dan Fouts go against the trend. But … Super Bowls are a factor. Otherwise, Troy Aikman and Terry Bradshaw would not be in the Hall of Fame. Otherwise, Joe Namath, Len Dawson, Bob Griese and Ken Stabler wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.
You're arguing what SHOULD be. I'm arguing what is. And as the Hall of Fame is now, as voted by sportswriters, stats and contribution to the history and fame of the game are what voters consider.
Yes 18 play off games is less than 240 regular season games.Which is a really long way of saying that he did nothing in the playoffs, especially since his playoff numbers were considerably worse than his regular season numbers.