Is Romo a hall of famer?

[Idgit]

He is not.

 

[mattjames2010]

Then look at his career. I'm no fan of Eli - I dislike him quite a bit in fact - but he did QB his team during several playoff runs and 2 SB wins, plus he is 7th all time in passing yards and 8th all time in TDs. In addition, he had a strong game in the 2nd SB win (75% passing, 296 yards, a TD and 103.7 passer rating), so claiming he only has 2 plays on his resume is pretty off base. And he did well in the first SB win also, just not as well. Trust me, I would prefer to say Eli is not a HOF player, but his results will, and realistically should get him in. And, like it or not, fair or not, playoff and SB wins factor into the voting.

While Eli deserves credit for his two Super Bows - the passing yards and TD totals are getting worthless at this point.

Manning in his 14 year career, has only had 3 seasons where he threw over 30 TD passes in a season.

As for passing yards, Eli is shooting he there for a couple reasons

1. He has been in the league for 14 years
2. He has thrown 570+ times the past 5 out of 8 seasons

His nearly 5,000 yard passing season came in a year where passing yard totals were up league wide - Brady, Stafford, and Brees threw for over 5,000 yards while 7 other QBs also had 4,000+ yards throwing.

Passing yards are going, and justifiably so, to become less important unless you are breaking records.

Eli will get in for his super bowl MVPs, the historic super bowl for beating the undefeated Patriots, and his two brilliant throws - which I think is a fair reason to put him in.

The other stuff though, it’s just fluff in a pass happy league

 

[G2]

Eli didn't play well in those Super Bowls.

BS

 

[Diehardblues]

Different eras! QBs are judged amongst their peers. Aikman didn’t have the numbers over his peers but he had Super Bowl wins. He won head to head battles against them in championship games.

Correct

 

[G2]

The first was a miracle catch, the second was a good throw.

I do hate Eli. He sucks. He was on a team that won two Super Bowls despite the fact that he sucks because they had a dominant defense. Without the chuck and pray, we aren't talking about him.

You conveniently left out the drive and the TD.
Hell, it was a miracle Eli escaped the rush to even throw.

 

[Diehardblues]

He's 6th all time in attempts. Being 7th in yards is pretty meaningless.

SB wins does factor in, and Eli will get in because of that. As such, so should Romo and Rivers, because both are better.

Rivers will get in without a championship. If Romo had played as long as Rivers he would have had a better shot.

 

[Diehardblues]

You conveniently left out the drive and the TD.
Hell, it was a miracle Eli escaped the rush to even throw.

Yea, he’s hell bent. So far, he’s listened to no one. Becoming entertaining. Lol

 

[G2]

You hate Eli we get it.

I hate Eli, but he's a HOF'r. Plain and simple.

 

[G2]

Yea, he’s hell bent. So far, he’s listened to no one. Becoming entertaining. Lol

More Romo Survivers Guilt Syndrome?

 

[Future]

Different eras! QBs are judged amongst their peers. Aikman didn’t have the numbers over his peers but he had Super Bowl wins. He won head to head battles against them in championship games.

Yes, different eras...so total passing yards is meaningless. Of this era, Eli is, what, the ~15th best quarterback?

In no particular order...Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Ryan, Stafford, Romo, Warner, Newton, Wilson. Eli's peers are Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, and Joe Flacco.

I don't get it with Eli, especially from Cowboys fans...there's a disposition to ignore an entire career of poor passing because of 2 plays. He throws picks more often than Blake Bortles. His career passer rating is worse than Sam Bradford. His YPA is worse than Colin Kaepernick. His TD% is worse than Andy Dalton. Week in and week out Eli Manning was a bad NFL quarterback.

 

[Diehardblues]

More Romo Survivers Guilt Syndrome?

I’d definitely put Eli in the HOF before Romo. Career stats if nothing else.

 

[Future]

You conveniently left out the drive and the TD.
Hell, it was a miracle Eli escaped the rush to even throw.

Like I said, that's a play that Romo made routinely throughout his career.

 

[OmerV]

He's 6th all time in attempts. Being 7th in yards is pretty meaningless.

SB wins does factor in, and Eli will get in because of that. As such, so should Romo and Rivers, because both are better.

It may be meaningless to you, but it's not to HOF voters. Same applies to the Super Bowl wins. You may not like it, but career stats and Super Bowl wins are the two of the biggest factors voters go by, and always has been. It won't be unique to Eli. In any case, while I would agree that career stats are sometimes overvalued, they are not meaningless. A player performing at a high level for many years should be considered. QB's don't keep a starting position long enough to build those stats if they aren't quality QBs.

 

[Future]

Yea, he’s hell bent. So far, he’s listened to no one. Becoming entertaining. Lol

There's nothing to listen to.

I said Eli will be in the HoF. But if he's in, then you can't leave out Rivers, Romo b/c they were both, unequivocally, better players.

 

[Future]

It may be meaningless to you, but it's not to HOF voters. Same applies to the Super Bowl wins. You may not like it, but career stats and Super Bowl wins are the two of the biggest factors voters go by. In any case, while I would agree that career stats are sometimes overvalued, they are not meaningless. A player performing at a high level for many years should be considered. QB's don't keep a starting position long enough to build those stats if they aren't quality QBs.

They are meaningless to me. Yes, I know that Eli is going to get in.

Plus, his career stats aren't great. Other than throwing a lot of passes, he hasn't done anything particularly well.

 

[CowboyChris]

No way he gets in, too many other QB's in line ahead of him.

Locks
Peyton
Brady
Brees
Roethlisberger
Rogers
Eli
Outside looking in
Rivers
Ryan
Romo

 

[Diehardblues]

There's nothing to listen to.

I said Eli will be in the HoF. But if he's in, then you can't leave out Rivers, Romo b/c they were both, unequivocally, better players.

Not going to leave out Rivers.

And if Romo had the length of career of either assuming his stats would have accumulated at same pace then he’d be a serious consideration.

 

[Miller]

No

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I’d definitely put Eli in the HOF before Romo. Career stats if nothing else.

His career stats are far worse.

I’m not sure why people are acting like Eli is a lock. There has already been a lot of informal polling of actual Hall of Fame voters and the early results say he’s going to definitely be hotly debated. He’s far from a lock... voters aren’t as stupid as some of the QB winz nimrods in here.

 

[Diehardblues]

His career stats are far worse.

I’m not sure why people are acting like Eli is a lock. There has already been a lot of informal polling of actual Hall of Fame voters and the early results say he’s going to definitely be hotly debated. He’s far from a lock... voters aren’t as stupid as some of the QB winz nimrods in here.

I earlier in this thread said Eli wasn’t a lock. You’ve joined the party late