Is the 'firing' of Belichick bigger, worse, and more disrespectful than the Landry firing?

[nightrain]

thats true. Only way thats duplicated is if the NFL goes to flag football.

LOL. It's weird to see the hatred for Belichick and the Patriots overtake any level of objective reasoning. Belichick is up there with Halas, Shula, Lombardi and Landry. Part of the Mount Rushmore of Head Coaching in the NFL.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

From what I can recall, everyone wanted Landry gone at the time as the game had passed him by. At least that was the discussions I remember.

Until he got let go then there was an uproar, mainly stirred by the local media as Jones was an outsider and didn’t handle his letting go that gracefully.

Agree, it was time for Landry to go. He had 3 losing seasons in a row at the end.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

Let's be 100% honest, he had the goat at QB otherwise he never sniffs a ring. Look at what he did both before he had Brady and after, nothing.

And Landry would not have won without Staubach?

 

[Rayman70]

LOL. It's weird to see the hatred for Belichick and the Patriots overtake any level of objectional reasoning. Belichick is up there with Halas, Shula, Lombardi and Landry. Part of the Mount Rushmore of Head Coaching in the NFL.

Oh I have no doubt. He earned it.He overcame much adversity before New England and during deflate gate...and the guy stood tall. I guess it helps when u have Brady too. Landry changed the NFL and helped make it the commercial success its grown into. He drafted Staubach. Then the Flex defense. No offense to BB.

 

[nightrain]

Oh I have no doubt. He earned it.He overcame much adversity before New England and during deflate gate...and the guy stood tall. I guess it helps when u have Brady too. Landry changed the NFL and helped make it the commercial success its grown into. He drafted Staubach. Then the Flex defense. No offense to BB.

Belichick and Brady were the perfect storm that will never appear again. Two very similar and elite NFL figures.

 

[Rayman70]

And Landry would not have won without Staubach?

Landry won with Danny White...which was incredible. While Danny was very good, he wasn't Roger. When Tom was in his hay day in the 70's he was feared because u knew he would have his teams prepared well. As time went he lost his magic touch because the league was changing. He never changed with it. Same with BB. It happens. The difference between Tom and Bill are easy. Tom was a guy that was beloved worldwide really. But Bill was almost despised by some of his own players at times...but to be fair, I think its a byproduct of the day and age we are in.

 

[Rayman70]

Belichick and Brady were the perfect storm that will never appear again. Two very similar and elite NFL figures.

Thats true.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

Belichick crafted Brady out of raw clay

 

[Rayman70]

Belichick crafted Brady out of raw clay

know what...thats kinda funny but not far off. Bill deserves some cred for developing him, teaching him how to be a pro. I know Tom had a QB guru,whose name escapes me right now, that he worked with for many years to hone his craft.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

Landry won with Danny White...which was incredible. While Danny was very good, he wasn't Roger. When Tom was in his hay day in the 70's he was feared because u knew he would have his teams prepared well. As time went he lost his magic touch because the league was changing. He never changed with it. Same with BB. It happens. The difference between Tom and Bill are easy. Tom was a guy that was beloved worldwide really. But Bill was almost despised by some of his own players at times...but to be fair, I think its a byproduct of the day and age we are in.

Which superbowl?

 

[Chasing6]

It’s the off-season of legendary coaches moving on so people are just sorta accepting it. That and the Belichick rumors have been around for months. I don’t think Kraft particularly liked how Bill handled Mac Jones or his development.

Hiring 2 D coordinators to run the offense, in Mac's second year, was an unbelievably dumb move from a Hall of Fame Coach.

 

[Bullflop]

Coaches certainly aren't immune to being fired, especially since their records indicate they haven't been fired. Both owner and coach met and decided to end their mutual relationship as owner and head coach. If that's not enough, most of the players weren't pleased with the ways of Bill Belichick and his coaching dictatorship. In fact, the reason for Tom Brady's leaving the team was largely because he was sick and tired of Belichick's ways. The fact that the lack of success for his team lately had much to do with his leaving the team. Both parties agreed to end their relationship for that reason.

 

[FanofJerry]

What whispers are there about where Bill might end up?

Dont teams hire as fast as they can so teams can start the integration of the new coach as fast as possible?

Shouldnt we know something soon? I assume Bill has been speaking with someone for a while and there is a plan in place?

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

know what...thats kinda funny but not far off. Bill deserves some cred for developing him, teaching him how to be a pro. I know Tom had a QB guru,whose name escapes me right now, that he worked with for many years to hone his craft.

He took his talent, and ability to incorporate the knowledge imparted on him by Belichick, and turned it into victory

 

[Rayman70]

Brady was elite in the sense his Football IQ was unmatched. Thats how he would beat ya. He'd locate the defensive matchups he liked and he'd attack you until u either stopped it or it wasnt required. He won Super Bowls that way. He was elite at finding your weakness and attacking it relentlessly. Same with BB.

 

[Rayman70]

What whispers are there about where Bill might end up?

Dont teams hire as fast as they can so teams can start the integration of the new coach as fast as possible?

Shouldnt we know something soon? I assume Bill has been speaking with someone for a while and there is a plan in place?

My personal feeling is San Diego. They are on the water or near it, Bill has a Boat, and this makes too much sense to me. Think about the pieces SD has. They got the QB, the receivers, the start of a decent dline. He can go in there and mold Herbert and win.The issue is ownership. Would the Spanos Family relent and give BB the keys to the franchise? Im convinced BB could make them relevant. Kellen Moore isnt the answer.

 

[5Stars]

Fired? Mutual parting? I assume he was fired, or at minimum told to be gone. Belichick has more wins (I think) and more super bowl trophies than Landry.
Try to put aside your Cowboy fan bias for a second and answer.

I think it is for one main reason. Team loyalty was a lot stronger back then than it is today. Players are moving around in free agency and coaches are getting fired and hired so much these days. Belichick likely will continue coaching with another team. Maybe even Washington. I don't think Landry had any intention to ever coach anywhere after getting fired.

The firing of Belichick doesn't seem to be big news.

Did not read this post, just got back from a hookers house. Cost me $45.00 again! Played her a song and left my guitar with her.

The thing I heard about JJ firing Coach Landry was that Coach got the news while he was playing golf.

So no, they came to an agreement in person. Coach Landry did not have that opportunity to talk it over like Belichick and the owner did.

 

[Rayman70]

The Chargers make sense more than any team I can think of for BB. Does he even wanna coach anymore though? He wont do it unless the situation is exactly right for him. Thats why I already ruled out Washington, Carolina and others. Herbert and BB would be a match made in Heaven.

 

[FanofJerry]

My personal feeling is San Diego. They are on the water or near it, Bill has a Boat, and this makes too much sense to me. Think about the pieces SD has. They got the QB, the receivers, the start of a decent dline. He can go in there and mold Herbert and win.The issue is ownership. Would the Spanos Family relent and give BB the keys to the franchise? Im convinced BB could make them relevant. Kellen Moore isnt the answer.

San Diego does have pieces along with climate and water.

I would assume Bill wants to win...but most importantly look like a decent head coach until he gets 17 more wins. He was definitely going to tarnish his name/legacy of coaching if he stayed in New England and it took 5 seasons to finally get the record and ride out into the sun.

I think Bill will not require full control. I think he just wants a decent team that doesnt make him look bad coaching and to get those 17 wins asap to prevent tarnishing his legacy. And he will give up complete control to be able to slide onto a talented team to meet his Main Objective.

 

[Flamma]

Reid will be 66 in a couple of months. How much longer do you really think he's going to coach? No way he sticks around to chase BB. Yes, he's got mahomes, but unless they upgrade their WR's they won't have the same success. Mahomes looked human this season. Kelce will retire (maybe this off season) to be Taylor Swift's boy toy, so you lose a HOF weapon and that offense will continue to have some issues.

I agree. Reid is too old. And of course I was assuming they fix the WR issue. That shouldn't hard, they just have to spend a lot.