Is there any credible evidence beyond fans speculation Jethro hasn't been involved in offseason?

[TheMarathonContinues]

They can but why can’t I push back.

I’m not interested in who’s right or wrong. I hope you’re right. What I don’t get is why the need to take such a stance now. And why im pushing back cause It’s just hype.

No the push back is great honestly. No issue with it. I think both sides are good honestly other wise what are we talking about?

 

[Diehardblues]

So how exactly can they ‘win’ in your mind?

How can they ever get credit when things go well this year?

IMO, and I’ve been a huge critic since Day 1 of Jethro , he would deserve credit for hiring the right HC, approving hiring the right DC and entire staff.

And staying supportive of Prescott and all the veterans he’s retained as well as recovering from Parsons trade which enabled thru draft and FA to rebuild defense .

Jethro doesn’t have to be the one who scouted or recommended signing or drafting anyone . You should get credit for overseeing the operation and making final decisions or simply approving others .

That said the coaching staff will deserve their credit as well .Just coexisting with Jethro & Son is quite an achievement and whatever culture, schemes he’s help create and relationship with players must be applauded as well.

It should be a victory lap for everyone when and if we are hoisting trophies, not in preseason.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

So Jerry can only receive blame, not credit.

That doesn’t seem fair.

Life isn't fair. And it hasn't been fair for us fans the last 30 years. I was 30 the last time we won a SB. I'm 61 now. If Jerry could act like a competent gm now then he could have done it in the past.Instead he just wasted so many years making us his patsies. He destroyed a dynasty. 10 years of wasted years with Jason Garrett. Pet projects like Quincy Carter and Trey Lance. Puppet coaches after puppet coaches. I can go on and on. We became a reality show under Jerry. I'm not going to forget all that. I'm sure Jerry will get all the accolades he wants but not from me. Because I'll just say what took you so long?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I’m simply here to push back it’s too early to come to these kind of conclusions.

How can Shotty be more qualified and experienced than McCarthy or a Parcells who both built pretty good playoff teams that still came up short.

Why without seeing any action in regular season are we so confident this year is different?

I'm not sold on Schotty either. No other team wanted him as a HC. He won only 7 games last year. Maybe we should wait till he posts a winning record before we put him in Canton. I think he might be better then we all thought but let's not go overboard.

 

[Stash]

IMO, and I’ve been a huge critic since Day 1 of Jethro , he would deserve credit for hiring the right HC, approving hiring the right DC and entire staff.

And staying supportive of Prescott and all the veterans he’s retained as well as recovering from Parsons trade which enabled thru draft and FA to rebuild defense .

Jethro doesn’t have to be the one who scouted or recommended signing or drafting anyone . You should get credit for overseeing the operation and making final decisions or simply approving others .

That said the coaching staff will deserve their credit as well .Just coexisting with Jethro & Son is quite an achievement and whatever culture, schemes he’s help create and relationship with players must be applauded as well.

It should be a victory lap for everyone when and if we are hoisting trophies, not in preseason.

As long as you would be capable of giving credit for success, I have no issue if you place blame for failures.

Where I take issue is with those disgruntled fans who can only assess blame and are incapable of giving credit.

 

[Stash]

Life isn't fair. And it hasn't been fair for us fans the last 30 years. I was 30 the last time we won a SB. I'm 61 now. If Jerry could act like a competent gm now then he could have done it in the past.Instead he just wasted so many years making us his patsies. He destroyed a dynasty. 10 years of wasted years with Jason Garrett. Pet projects like Quincy Carter and Trey Lance. Puppet coaches after puppet coaches. I can go on and on. We became a reality show under Jerry. I'm not going to forget all that. I'm sure Jerry will get all the accolades he wants but not from me. Because I'll just say what took you so long?

I’m not asking you to forget.

But people deserve to be judged fairly. If Jerry deserves blame when things go wrong, he equally deserves credit when things go right.

 

[john van brocklin]

What about an NFC Championship game or Super Bowl appearance?

Definitely a big step in the right direction

 

[DarkVader33]

I don't think saying Eberflus was forced on him is consistent with the other hires. If we say that No-Schott made the decision on those hires, then why do we say No-Schott didn't make the decision on Eberflus? Because Eberflus was a bad hire?

It doesn't makes sense to me to say Jerry let No-Schott do whatever he wanted at every other coaching position except DC. I think Eberflus was brought up in conversations with head coaching candidates before he was hired and No-Schott didn't say no, I don't want him. He may not have picked him, but he didn't object to him. Therefore, Eberflus wasn't forced on him.

You’re both speculating. But knowing Jerry, I think the other poster has it right. Just my opinion of course.

 

[gtb1943]

Feel better now that you’ve called me a name?

just calling it the way I see it

 

[Rockport]

I mainly follow local coverage of Cowboys so may have missed an official announcement or Jethro conceding he’s hasn’t been involved in bringing in new talent in FA and draft on defense.

Keep hearing claims that the better decisions and acquisitions this offseason must mean he isn’t as involved. I’ve been traveling quite a bit this year so maybe I missed some coverage or admissions from Jethro as such.

I must remind fans we have built some other playoff teams this era with Jethro and as recent as with McCarthy had a 5th ranked defense. So it really isn’t that much of a stretch he was involved again.

As long as he is GM, he still gets credit. Same reason he’s been blamed this era. I’ve been a huge critic and I’d lead the parade if he was stepping back.

The 5th ranked defense was 2023 when Aaron Jones ran for 3 TD’s and Love threw for 3 more in the playoffs.

 

[Rockport]

I am so tired of this nonsense. Every time they have a press conference you see who is in charge. Every time they show war room video you see who is in charge. Stephen can't burp until his daddy nods his approval.

Sounds like you’ve got PTSD over the Cowboys.

 

[boysfanindc]

I’d describe any assumptions/projections that include how far in playoffs we go as pure hype. We’ve seen this all before.

And I understand anyone can throw it out there. But some go as far to present it as a done deal. I’m simply pushing back it’s premature that we don’t pass out trophies before the season begins.

It's premature to discuss what may happen in the upcoming season on a Cowboys message board intended for just that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why wouldn’t he have?

He is not a good talent evaluator and he tends to fall in love with some players projecting.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Now its seemingly different...

At least for now

 

[gimmesix]

You’re both speculating. But knowing Jerry, I think the other poster has it right. Just my opinion of course.

I'm just saying fans are saying Jerry forced Eberflus on No-Schott without any real evidence that is true. I'm not saying it couldn't be true.

Fans want to cling to hope that things have changed just because we got coaches now that they don't think Jerry played a role in getting. I think that's wishful thinking. And I do think there's evidence there if we look back over previous coaches. As I've said, when Mike McCarthy was hired as head coach, he brought Mike Nolan in as his defensive coordinator. Jerry had no prior experience with Nolan, so was that Jerry's hire or McCarthy's? Jerry had no prior experience with Quinn, so was that Jerry's hire or McCarthy's?

Now, I absolutely believe that Jerry has given his input over and over again. McCarthy kept Moore as his offensive coordinator. Was that Jerry's influence? I think so. But I just don't see where what he has wanted to do has been a deal breaker for any of these coaches.

I mean, if he wants Eberflus and you want to be a head coach and don't really have a strong preference for who you want as your DC, why wouldn't you go along with it? If he wants to bring in Terrell Owens or George Pickens, then unless you just are absolutely against it, why wouldn't you be willing to accept that?

Some like to say that TO was forced on Parcells, despite him saying that was not the case. Now, it's clear that Parcells would not have gone out and gotten Owens on his own, but Jones wanted to do it and Parcells was like sure, why not? Let's give it a try.

I think it may be a similar situation with No-Schott and Eberflus. Sure, why not?

 

[kskboys]

Tons. Gotta ignore a ton of evidence to think this is the same.

 

[Diehardblues]

He is not a good talent evaluator and he tends to fall in love with some players projecting.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Now its seemingly different...

At least for now

He’s never been a great talent evaluator but ends up with some talent . Obviously he’s seeks some advice. Always has .

 

[Diehardblues]

I’m not asking you to forget.

But people deserve to be judged fairly. If Jerry deserves blame when things go wrong, he equally deserves credit when things go right.

Yep. Not many have bashed Jethro more than me over the years but have always said if he ever hires the right people who brings in right talent he will deserve credit.

But we are a long way from end of January.

 

[Diehardblues]

Tons. Gotta ignore a ton of evidence to think this is the same.

I’m certainly not ignoring what we have addressed and apparently assembled. Maybe others are ?

I’m just a little hesitant to crown it before we’ve won anything. Afterall results do matter. If we don’t kick down the door then ultimately it’s no better than other divisional round teams we’ve had unless it’s on the verge next year of kicking down door .

That door is the objective . Otherwise it’s just a better team wasted . I guess we can all look back and recall in 2026 we built a great team the right way but didn’t have any more success and feel better. Not me.

And that really is my point in all this . Not discounting what we have assembled or a better way doing it but counting all of our chickens before they hatch. Cause winning is the ultimate measurement.

 

[DarkVader33]

I'm just saying fans are saying Jerry forced Eberflus on No-Schott without any real evidence that is true. I'm not saying it couldn't be true.

Fans want to cling to hope that things have changed just because we got coaches now that they don't think Jerry played a role in getting. I think that's wishful thinking. And I do think there's evidence there if we look back over previous coaches. As I've said, when Mike McCarthy was hired as head coach, he brought Mike Nolan in as his defensive coordinator. Jerry had no prior experience with Nolan, so was that Jerry's hire or McCarthy's? Jerry had no prior experience with Quinn, so was that Jerry's hire or McCarthy's?

Now, I absolutely believe that Jerry has given his input over and over again. McCarthy kept Moore as his offensive coordinator. Was that Jerry's influence? I think so. But I just don't see where what he has wanted to do has been a deal breaker for any of these coaches.

I mean, if he wants Eberflus and you want to be a head coach and don't really have a strong preference for who you want as your DC, why wouldn't you go along with it? If he wants to bring in Terrell Owens or George Pickens, then unless you just are absolutely against it, why wouldn't you be willing to accept that?

Some like to say that TO was forced on Parcells, despite him saying that was not the case. Now, it's clear that Parcells would not have gone out and gotten Owens on his own, but Jones wanted to do it and Parcells was like sure, why not? Let's give it a try.

I think it may be a similar situation with No-Schott and Eberflus. Sure, why not?

You make some valid arguments and like I said in my previous post, it’s all speculation. You may be right but I lean slightly the other way. Could have Schott gone along with the Eber hire? Sure but we’ll never really know.

 

[Valkyr]

Is this a real question or trick question?

Here is the answer...

Jerry Jones​

OWNER / PRESIDENT / GENERAL MANAGER​

The aforementioned is Straight from the Arlington Jonesboys website. Excuse me Dallas Cowboys website

Jerry with the 25-year old pic also used for his eHarmony dating profile.