Is this board capable of providing facts that Stephen is just as bad as Jerry?

[Steve007]

Is this board capable of providing facts that support Stephen being just as bad as Jerry?

Stephen gets a lot of hate around here. Most of it seems pointless or attempts to manipulate you into thinking he is a trash decision maker.

What has Stephen done, not one or two things, but what is the list of mistakes that makes him unfit to take over?

This will be good for this board. I think a lot of posts will be desperate attempts to try and control my thinking...that Stephen doesnt deserve a shot because he is bad...without good reasons on why I should think that. It wants to tell me how to think about him, whether right or wrong.

Im gonna see a bunch of posts that dont bridge the gap. Example: "Jerry fired Jimmy therefor he is a narcissist". Way too much info missing to make that jump.

So...I have read about Stephen writing bad contracts. Ok...do we know he was fully responsible or did Jerry meddle? How the h e l l am I supposed to know Stephen is/was fully responsible with Jerry lurking?

So...I have heard posters complain that Stephen is a penny pincher. In Free Agency? What is Stephen responsible for that being a pennywise in a certain area is detrimental to the team?

If posters want to make jumps with nothing bridging the gap...cant I say that since Stephen ripped the Johnny Manziel card out of Jerry's hand....that shows Stephen knows some things? Or....when its someone you want to hate on like Stephen...its just simply "a broken clock is right twice a day"?

How do YOU know that Stephen will follow Jerry's GM'ing style? You dont.

Stephen has been in the immediate decision making circle since he was in his 20's. He's got 30 years experience with a football team. Jerry seems to have a personality issue that is effecting his teams...how do I make the jump to Stephen having those same issues?

I dont doubt that the Family wants the money train to continue choo choo'ing...but I cant just make the jump to "Like father like son. Its impossible for him to succeed" like some on this board try to make you think.

Can I get a list of things that support the Stephen hate around here?

Pay close attention to the type of responses I get to this.

If your looking for hope when Jerry is gone and Stephen fully takes over your going to be disappointed.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Yeah I can provide proof Stephen sucks:

Enough said.

 

[TwentyOne]

Is this board capable of providing facts that support Stephen being just as bad as Jerry?

Stephen gets a lot of hate around here. Most of it seems pointless or attempts to manipulate you into thinking he is a trash decision maker.

What has Stephen done, not one or two things, but what is the list of mistakes that makes him unfit to take over?

This will be good for this board. I think a lot of posts will be desperate attempts to try and control my thinking...that Stephen doesnt deserve a shot because he is bad...without good reasons on why I should think that. It wants to tell me how to think about him, whether right or wrong.

Im gonna see a bunch of posts that dont bridge the gap. Example: "Jerry fired Jimmy therefor he is a narcissist". Way too much info missing to make that jump.

So...I have read about Stephen writing bad contracts. Ok...do we know he was fully responsible or did Jerry meddle? How the h e l l am I supposed to know Stephen is/was fully responsible with Jerry lurking?

So...I have heard posters complain that Stephen is a penny pincher. In Free Agency? What is Stephen responsible for that being a pennywise in a certain area is detrimental to the team?

If posters want to make jumps with nothing bridging the gap...cant I say that since Stephen ripped the Johnny Manziel card out of Jerry's hand....that shows Stephen knows some things? Or....when its someone you want to hate on like Stephen...its just simply "a broken clock is right twice a day"?

How do YOU know that Stephen will follow Jerry's GM'ing style? You dont.

Stephen has been in the immediate decision making circle since he was in his 20's. He's got 30 years experience with a football team. Jerry seems to have a personality issue that is effecting his teams...how do I make the jump to Stephen having those same issues?

I dont doubt that the Family wants the money train to continue choo choo'ing...but I cant just make the jump to "Like father like son. Its impossible for him to succeed" like some on this board try to make you think.

Can I get a list of things that support the Stephen hate around here?

Pay close attention to the type of responses I get to this.

Officially SJ is responsible for contracts and salary cap management. And that work you judge him for.

Of course you can always doubt that. There is always room for conspiracy theories.

 

[DandyDon52]

there is no way to know about SJ until he does take over.
I go by the things he says, which have been very similar to what jerry says.

That wont happen for a long time, so dont care to waste time trying to guess if he would be good or not.

 

[MyFairLady]

At some point every Cowboy fan has had the dream that the son will step in and be awesome. This is simply a dream. He is going to be a whole new level of entitled and incompetent. The only hope is he gets bored with his dad's favorite toy and sells it.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Is this board capable of providing facts that support Stephen being just as bad as Jerry?

Stephen gets a lot of hate around here. Most of it seems pointless or attempts to manipulate you into thinking he is a trash decision maker.

What has Stephen done, not one or two things, but what is the list of mistakes that makes him unfit to take over?

This will be good for this board. I think a lot of posts will be desperate attempts to try and control my thinking...that Stephen doesnt deserve a shot because he is bad...without good reasons on why I should think that. It wants to tell me how to think about him, whether right or wrong.

Im gonna see a bunch of posts that dont bridge the gap. Example: "Jerry fired Jimmy therefor he is a narcissist". Way too much info missing to make that jump.

So...I have read about Stephen writing bad contracts. Ok...do we know he was fully responsible or did Jerry meddle? How the h e l l am I supposed to know Stephen is/was fully responsible with Jerry lurking?

So...I have heard posters complain that Stephen is a penny pincher. In Free Agency? What is Stephen responsible for that being a pennywise in a certain area is detrimental to the team?

If posters want to make jumps with nothing bridging the gap...cant I say that since Stephen ripped the Johnny Manziel card out of Jerry's hand....that shows Stephen knows some things? Or....when its someone you want to hate on like Stephen...its just simply "a broken clock is right twice a day"?

How do YOU know that Stephen will follow Jerry's GM'ing style? You dont.

Stephen has been in the immediate decision making circle since he was in his 20's. He's got 30 years experience with a football team. Jerry seems to have a personality issue that is effecting his teams...how do I make the jump to Stephen having those same issues?

I dont doubt that the Family wants the money train to continue choo choo'ing...but I cant just make the jump to "Like father like son. Its impossible for him to succeed" like some on this board try to make you think.

Can I get a list of things that support the Stephen hate around here?

Pay close attention to the type of responses I get to this.

What we lose in Narcissism we gain in additional ineptitude. Stephen's inability to close the Gregory deal, having to get an angry Jerry involved (whether we liked the deal or not). At that point, it looks as if Jerry took back the reins.

The difference will be that Stephen doesnt have the 'old friends in high places' and he wont get the free pass his father does. Can he step up from Bean Counter to GM, NO, because he's learnt what he knows from under his shadow and the media will hound him to such a level his father never got.

 

[cowboyed]

Stephen prevented Jerry from drafting Manziel. It's easier to list the one GOOD thing he's done.

He also pushed bringing in McCarthy; that's one example of the yin and yang of it.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Is this board capable of providing facts that support Stephen being just as bad as Jerry?

Stephen gets a lot of hate around here. Most of it seems pointless or attempts to manipulate you into thinking he is a trash decision maker.

What has Stephen done, not one or two things, but what is the list of mistakes that makes him unfit to take over?

This will be good for this board. I think a lot of posts will be desperate attempts to try and control my thinking...that Stephen doesnt deserve a shot because he is bad...without good reasons on why I should think that. It wants to tell me how to think about him, whether right or wrong.

Im gonna see a bunch of posts that dont bridge the gap. Example: "Jerry fired Jimmy therefor he is a narcissist". Way too much info missing to make that jump.

So...I have read about Stephen writing bad contracts. Ok...do we know he was fully responsible or did Jerry meddle? How the h e l l am I supposed to know Stephen is/was fully responsible with Jerry lurking?

So...I have heard posters complain that Stephen is a penny pincher. In Free Agency? What is Stephen responsible for that being a pennywise in a certain area is detrimental to the team?

If posters want to make jumps with nothing bridging the gap...cant I say that since Stephen ripped the Johnny Manziel card out of Jerry's hand....that shows Stephen knows some things? Or....when its someone you want to hate on like Stephen...its just simply "a broken clock is right twice a day"?

How do YOU know that Stephen will follow Jerry's GM'ing style? You dont.

Stephen has been in the immediate decision making circle since he was in his 20's. He's got 30 years experience with a football team. Jerry seems to have a personality issue that is effecting his teams...how do I make the jump to Stephen having those same issues?

I dont doubt that the Family wants the money train to continue choo choo'ing...but I cant just make the jump to "Like father like son. Its impossible for him to succeed" like some on this board try to make you think.

Can I get a list of things that support the Stephen hate around here?

Pay close attention to the type of responses I get to this.

For starters, the way the front office is setup is done purposely so we cannot pinpoint who is responsible when something goes wrong. I imagine that will continue when Jerry is no longer in charger. So right of the rip, this front office is designed for there to be no accountability.

But here is 1 thing that has leaked. Stephen went ballistic when Jerry signed Deion Sanders. Signing Deion weakened our main adversary in the 49ers. Signing Deion gave us one of the top 3 players in the NFL. Signing Deion was box office. We don't with the Super Bowl without Deion. So what was the downside of signing Deion? In Stephens eyes.....money!!!!!!!!! So if Stephen was against spending money on arguably one of the 5 best players to wear a NFL uniform, who do you think is most responsible for us sitting out of free agency EVERY year? Who do you think decided we cannot afford Derrick Henry? Again, it's setup so we can't pinpoint who makes these decisions, but I have a hunch I know who it is.

The other thing is the radio show appearance. What other person with Stephen's title in the NFL has a radio show? How much you wanna bet that Jerry's radio show appearance influenced Stephen to do the same? There is WAY more evidence that Stephen will be Jerry than there isn't. And lastly, when Stephen eventually gets Jerry's job, how much you wanna bet that Stephen will be replaced by another Jones family member that is currently holding a position that he contributed to 30 years of futility we have experienced?

 

[CyberB0b]

It’s my gut feeling that if Stephen was running things by himself, he would hire a GM. Jerry needs that power, Stephen doesn't. Stephen really likes being a partner to his dad but as a solo act, it wouldn't be as much fun. Plus, I think Stephen is super lazy and would rather delegate authority. Ideally, Stephen hires Troy Aikman as GM who hires Ben Johnson as HC.

He’s done nothing to suggest that. He gets on the mic and says stupid stuff like his dad, and his 30 years of being a nepo baby only feeds his ego. The only way things change is if a nuclear bomb hits Highland Park on Christmas.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

He’s been a front line executive making decisions relative to how money is spent and players are drafted on a team that hasn’t had any meaningful success for 30 years. That’s enough right there for me to have no faith in him. Nepotism on its own is a stupid way to direct leadership. It’s not like we will be losing Phillip of Macedonia and gaining Alexander the Great.

 

[nate dizzle]

The only thing this board is capable of is whining, crying, griping, and complaining

Not you though. You are our shining light. Bless you.

 

[zrinkill]

FanofJerry joined this forum 3 years ago and immediately started defending the nonsense that has been going on for almost 30 years.

That is his sole purpose.

 

[baltcowboy]

Is this board capable of providing facts that support Stephen being just as bad as Jerry?

Stephen gets a lot of hate around here. Most of it seems pointless or attempts to manipulate you into thinking he is a trash decision maker.

What has Stephen done, not one or two things, but what is the list of mistakes that makes him unfit to take over?

This will be good for this board. I think a lot of posts will be desperate attempts to try and control my thinking...that Stephen doesnt deserve a shot because he is bad...without good reasons on why I should think that. It wants to tell me how to think about him, whether right or wrong.

Im gonna see a bunch of posts that dont bridge the gap. Example: "Jerry fired Jimmy therefor he is a narcissist". Way too much info missing to make that jump.

So...I have read about Stephen writing bad contracts. Ok...do we know he was fully responsible or did Jerry meddle? How the h e l l am I supposed to know Stephen is/was fully responsible with Jerry lurking?

So...I have heard posters complain that Stephen is a penny pincher. In Free Agency? What is Stephen responsible for that being a pennywise in a certain area is detrimental to the team?

If posters want to make jumps with nothing bridging the gap...cant I say that since Stephen ripped the Johnny Manziel card out of Jerry's hand....that shows Stephen knows some things? Or....when its someone you want to hate on like Stephen...its just simply "a broken clock is right twice a day"?

How do YOU know that Stephen will follow Jerry's GM'ing style? You dont.

Stephen has been in the immediate decision making circle since he was in his 20's. He's got 30 years experience with a football team. Jerry seems to have a personality issue that is effecting his teams...how do I make the jump to Stephen having those same issues?

I dont doubt that the Family wants the money train to continue choo choo'ing...but I cant just make the jump to "Like father like son. Its impossible for him to succeed" like some on this board try to make you think.

Can I get a list of things that support the Stephen hate around here?

Pay close attention to the type of responses I get to this.

Well Stephen has been under his father’ wing for the whole time Jerry has owned the Cowboys. Stephen believes he built this Cowboys team himself just like his father thought he built the 90s Cowboys. Do you remember that stupid secret sauce comment he made back in the Romo days? Just like his father he comes on radio shows with injury updates that undermines the coaching staff. Stephen is just like his father but does not have Jerry’s charisma.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

FanofJerry joined this forum 3 years ago and immediately started defending the nonsense that has been going on for almost 30 years.

That is his sole purpose.

I highly suspect a troll job, probably a fan of another team. I’m sure I’m not the only one. It’s a pretty rational conclusion given the absurd arguments he’s chosen to defend.

 

[shabazz]

Is this board capable of providing facts that support Stephen being just as bad as Jerry?

Stephen gets a lot of hate around here. Most of it seems pointless or attempts to manipulate you into thinking he is a trash decision maker.

What has Stephen done, not one or two things, but what is the list of mistakes that makes him unfit to take over?

This will be good for this board. I think a lot of posts will be desperate attempts to try and control my thinking...that Stephen doesnt deserve a shot because he is bad...without good reasons on why I should think that. It wants to tell me how to think about him, whether right or wrong.

Im gonna see a bunch of posts that dont bridge the gap. Example: "Jerry fired Jimmy therefor he is a narcissist". Way too much info missing to make that jump.

So...I have read about Stephen writing bad contracts. Ok...do we know he was fully responsible or did Jerry meddle? How the h e l l am I supposed to know Stephen is/was fully responsible with Jerry lurking?

So...I have heard posters complain that Stephen is a penny pincher. In Free Agency? What is Stephen responsible for that being a pennywise in a certain area is detrimental to the team?

If posters want to make jumps with nothing bridging the gap...cant I say that since Stephen ripped the Johnny Manziel card out of Jerry's hand....that shows Stephen knows some things? Or....when its someone you want to hate on like Stephen...its just simply "a broken clock is right twice a day"?

How do YOU know that Stephen will follow Jerry's GM'ing style? You dont.

Stephen has been in the immediate decision making circle since he was in his 20's. He's got 30 years experience with a football team. Jerry seems to have a personality issue that is effecting his teams...how do I make the jump to Stephen having those same issues?

I dont doubt that the Family wants the money train to continue choo choo'ing...but I cant just make the jump to "Like father like son. Its impossible for him to succeed" like some on this board try to make you think.

Can I get a list of things that support the Stephen hate around here?

Pay close attention to the type of responses I get to this.

Many of these questions you pose cannot be answered with certainty because we simply don't have that kind of access.

So I'll pose these same question to you....

Can you show us all the good decisions that are solely attributed to just Stephen?

Can you show us all the contracts that are solely Stephen's doing?

Can you prove to us that Stephen ISN'T the one behind the reluctance to spend money on FA?


That's why this thread will have no definitive answer.

Corporate leaders in the real world maintain a team around them that are LIKE-MINDED and that's universal.

If Stephen was truly opposed to his father's way of doing business he could have struck out on his own and been his own man......but yeah, that's not happening

 

[shabazz]

Boom! You got me there!

BTW, if you start manufacturing those anatomically correct lady torsos, I'd like to invest and get in on the ground floor.

Feel free to send me one for beta testing.

 

[Aven8]

Stephen is cheap, shrewd, and feisty.

He’s the ultimate reason we sit out in FA. He’s brought up Branden Carr more times than I care to remember.

 

[irishline]

The only thing this board is capable of is whining, crying, griping, and complaining

Well stop whining, crying, griping, and complaining about it, like this post. Use your platform to set a better example to the rest of us peons.

Not you though. You are our shining light. Bless you.

 

[JW82]

How long does he have to mismanage the cap and avoid free agency before you have enough proof?

 

[kskboys]

If your looking for hope when Jerry is gone and Stephen fully takes over your going to be disappointed.

Unless Stephen hires a competent GM, as he has said he will.

What have you seen that makes you think he will be Jerry part deux?