It has to be the coaching

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I look at the talent on this team. Romo, Witten, Dez, Smith , Ferg, Carr, Ware, Lee , Carter ...etc. and we continue to lose games we should win.

Then you look at Seatle , KC , SF . Saints , NE. And see what coaching can accomplish. KC is no where near Dallas talent level. They are 4-0. Which is what Dallas should be. There is no excuse to be 2-2 with the schedule we had so far.


I was never a Garrett fan. Didn't feel he was ready to be a head coach. But I supported him. But we are just wasting time with him and his crew. There needs to be a change. obviously not during the season. Let Garrett finish the year. Maybe he can right the ship. But I do not want him back if he doesn't get to at least the NFC championship game. Winning this awful division means nothing.

Lets get to the source of the coaching staffs. Who hires these jokers, who pays them, who hires the GM who hires the coaches??? Oh wait the GM and Owner are one in the same. Yup put the blame where it belongs, ON JERRAH. He is the mastermind of all this crap the past 18 yrs. He deserves all the blame. ALL OF IT
 

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Parcells wasn't a competent HC with successful track record?

Parcells was past his prime at coaching, he has an eye for talent but coaching he was way past his prime when the Boys hired him.
 

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I look at the talent on this team. Romo, Witten, Dez, Smith , Ferg, Carr, Ware, Lee , Carter ...etc. and we continue to lose games we should win.

Then you look at Seatle , KC , SF . Saints , NE. And see what coaching can accomplish. KC is no where near Dallas talent level. They are 4-0. Which is what Dallas should be. There is no excuse to be 2-2 with the schedule we had so far.


I was never a Garrett fan. Didn't feel he was ready to be a head coach. But I supported him. But we are just wasting time with him and his crew. There needs to be a change. obviously not during the season. Let Garrett finish the year. Maybe he can right the ship. But I do not want him back if he doesn't get to at least the NFC championship game. Winning this awful division means nothing.

Maybe it's the guy who keeps hiring these coaches
 

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Lets get to the source of the coaching staffs. Who hires these jokers, who pays them, who hires the GM who hires the coaches??? Oh wait the GM and Owner are one in the same. Yup put the blame where it belongs, ON JERRAH. He is the mastermind of all this crap the past 18 yrs. He deserves all the blame. ALL OF IT

I have to agree, Garrett is a lame duck this year he will get fired. Jerry will come on TV lip smacking and try to swindle everyone .and he will !! Fans will believe it and they'll fill his stadium and he makes out again as long as the team is mediocre he wins. He obviously has no clue with the team He makes bad decisions after bad decisions. When it comes to bidness He's a Shark when it comes to NFL. Well... I was a huge supporter of him. But you cant hide the past 17 years. Get ready for Norv Turnner.
 

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Maybe it's the guy who keeps hiring these coaches

may be true, but UNFORTUNATELY, how does that make our situation any less depressing? he owns the freaking team.

As with all owners, Jerry wants to do the right thing and is clearly willing to utilize his resources to make it happen. But we're not living in the 90's anymore. I was not really a fan of garrett. After the wade phillips left, the offenses didn't really get better, (only more conservative) and the defenses got worse. So it may be time to clean house with the staff and start fresh. Right now, if you ONLY fire garrett, you're left with a bunch of coordinators who may not necessarily fit with the philosophies of a new coach. I feel like this is a bit of the 2011 philly "dream team" scenario when andy reid prematurely hired D-line coach Jim Washburn, who would only run the wide 9 and no competant coordinators would take the DC job because it absolutely clashed with their overall schemes. But the eagles thought that collecting all that talent would still win even without decent coaching. Look where that got them.

Right now, you've got Bill Callahan running Garrett's Air Coryell downfield attack, when historically, bill's always been a west coast guy. Even when callahan had the high powered raider attack from 2003, it was a 6 yard per play possession offense featuring short slants and hitches off Jerry Rice and Tim Brown. Right now with the cowboys, there's just no continuity of philosophy from the top of personnel executive (Jerry) to the HC to the coordinators. Everything is just mismatched and kind of forced to fit together. Yeah, Jerry might be good at collecting talent, but there's something to be said when the Cowboys are stretched up against the 2013 salary cap of 121 million and can only muster a .500 team with absolutely no depth. contrast this with teams like new england, green bay, denver, sf, sea, who have a buoy of talent but also have managed flexibility with draft picks and cap space in FUTURE years, it's easy to see how a leadership group (gm) with a clear vision and philosophy can easily translate to long term sustained success by hiring a group of coaches who coincide with and shar the same philosophy as the gm. It makes it easier to decide who is WORTH keeping, exactly what type of player the team is looking for etc.

So it's easy to blame the coaching, but as always it's the guy pushing all the buttons upstairs. Sorry for the rant/
 

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I would like to see gruden hired then we can keep the defensive coaches


I want Chucky !!! We need to demand it start a Facebook petition or something
 

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What makes you think this way ?

The last 3 games showed what kind of team we have this season. I dont think someone could say the Chargers are a team we should have beaten.
Yea but thats only because this team is so wildly inconsistent that there is no sure thing.

SD does not have better players.
 

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Three guys in particluar (Jerry Jones, Garrett and Romo) are lucky to play in Dallas and not in a northeast city like NY, Phil, Boston. The GM and the head coach in particular would be getting shredded daily. Not just talked about, they would be getting killed in the media. Heck, sports talk in NY today are calling for the NYG GM and head coach to be fired. And they've won 2 super bowls.
 

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Ive noticed a lot of players that leave here and play better somewhere else. so you know we are not the best coached team.
 

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How much more talent do you think KC has than us? I would say, we are pretty equal. Fat boy Andy has them at 4-0 in his first year.

SF's talent level wasn't better than what we had when Harbaugh took over the team and he took them to the NFC championship game and the SB already.

Yeh I say it's definitely coaching.

It's not the talent level so much as the way the teams are constructed. I know people are sick of hearing this, but both of those teams invested in their front seven on defence and OL on offence, and you can see the value of the finished product.

We have one guy who can rush the passer consistently and he's starting to break down. Aside from that,Lee is only difference maker on defence.
 

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I hate to say it, but the evidence points to coaching failure:

a) Came out flat, unprepared.
b) Opponent made good adjustments at halftime, for which 'Boys had no answer.
c) Admitted post-game that "they found some things to exploit", but we couldn't find any.
d) Definitely missed on the risk/reward aspect of the 56 yard field goal attempt.
e) Evidently has not been able to effectively install the new 12 and 13 packages that were supposed to give us more options.
f) Apparently has not yet sorted out DB coverage responsibilities, especially safeties.

The assumption, of course, is that Cowboy personnel are talented enough to have made successful plays if they had understood and been placed in the proper scheme.
 

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IMO, yesterday's loss was on the defense. They couldn't do anything to keep the Chargers offense off the field.
 

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Ive noticed a lot of players that leave here and play better somewhere else. so you know we are not the best coached team.

I was flipping my Ticket games one day & darn if Terrance Newman didn't get a pick 6 & score for the Bengals.
 

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Three guys in particluar (Jerry Jones, Garrett and Romo) are lucky to play in Dallas and not in a northeast city like NY, Phil, Boston. The GM and the head coach in particular would be getting shredded daily. Not just talked about, they would be getting killed in the media. Heck, sports talk in NY today are calling for the NYG GM and head coach to be fired. And they've won 2 super bowls.

I am thinking Coughlin would quit before he let them fire him. His age & all.
 

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I can't even count the number of games, in recent years, where when it was over I felt we were embarrassingly outcoached. Our gameplan, so often, seems to just be to put player A against player B and hope for the best. If we aren't getting superhuman performances from individuals, the entire team tanks.
 

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I am thinking Coughlin would quit before he let them fire him. His age & all.

you are right...and whether we hate the NYG or not, they are a first class organization. And there is no way they will come out and fire Coughlin. In private, they may say hey Tom its time for you to step aside...but they will never humiliate him by actually publicly firing him.
 

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As Erod said in another thread, "So what is wrong with the coaches of the 49ers, Falcons, Texans, Commanders, Giants, Packers, Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens?" Did those guys suddenly forget how to coach? Are they 'non-professional NFL managers'? The search for the easy answer and the easy scapegoat is...easy. The actual issues are usually more complicated.
 
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