It is fundamentally American to know not to touch a punt

TheMarathonContinues

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You are going to just keep ignoring the other 10 ton elephant in the Jimmy room of cutting Curvin Richards for fumbling?

Richards was a more established player too, and his mistake didn't cost us the game. He was cut because he was expendable and not a starter to put fear into everyone else on the team to not be an idiot or it would cost us a playoff run.

You definitely cut a PS squad guy who in his first game makes an unacceptable blunder that any Pop Warner kid knows not to make.

So tell me, do you think Johnson was wrong to cut Richards? I know this is going to be very difficult, if not impossible for you, but nonetheless, I want you to be honest with your answer.
Not sure why you think it’s impossible it’s like you are looking for a fight because I disagree? Weird. In the 90s I don’t think it’s wrong to do. In 2024, it’s a waste of time. Like I said previously….cutting 27 will probably scare a few guys who are roster bubble and fringe guys but those guys aren’t why we stink. It’s our veterans and guys like Dak and Lamb would probably laugh at the thought of being cut for a mistake.

And this was not a Ps guy or his first game lol….not sure if you are being sarcastic or simply unaware….you probably should google him first.
 

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Fassel needs to go. He really does. He found Aubrey, that's great. But other than that his ST units are awful. Imagine what Turpin could be if he ever had blocking on punts.
He’s a good ST coach.

one of the best.

players make dumb mistakes sometimes.
 

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Touch a punt!!!
Who touches a punt you’re taught that in peewee football get away from it get away from it!!!! It’s as fundamentally American as calling a pop-up. I got it. I got it.!!!!! I got it mine mine mine!


That ******* needs to be cut

My God we played too damn well for Coach McCarthy to be screwed over by that stupidity. I’m sick of that lackadaisical bs in this arena.
It was a blocked point, And he wasn’t schooled properly on what to do with it. I’m sure if he was downfield he would not have acted the same.
 

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Not sure why you think it’s impossible it’s like you are looking for a fight because I disagree? Weird. In the 90s I don’t think it’s wrong to do. In 2024, it’s a waste of time. Like I said previously….cutting 27 will probably scare a few guys who are roster bubble and fringe guys but those guys aren’t why we stink. It’s our veterans and guys like Dak and Lamb would probably laugh at the thought of being cut for a mistake.

And this was not a Ps guy or his first game lol….not sure if you are being sarcastic or simply unaware….you probably should google him first.

If he was ever cut it would be due to the starting trio being healthy, finally, over a freak fumble incident. Not like AO has been a bonehead for games now, with fumbles or 15 yard penalties, or being a distraction.

Jimmy cut Curvin over repeated fumbles. Not like he fumbled once and was cut.

I'm all for more "discipline" and from a coach that actually preaches it, but cutting AO over that would just be a cheap scapegoat by the front office.
 

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If he was ever cut it would be due to the starting trio being healthy, finally, over a freak fumble incident. Not like AO has been a bonehead for games now, with fumbles or 15 yard penalties, or being a distraction.

Jimmy cut Curvin over repeated fumbles. Not like he fumbled once and was cut.

I'm all for more "discipline" and from a coach that actually preaches it, but cutting AO over that would just be a cheap scapegoat by the front office.
Ahh thanks for explaining that. Everyone keeps talking about Curvin but you are the first person to say he got cut for multiple mistakes. I didn’t know that.

And you are right. Them cutting him reeks of desperation and scapegoat. Not some learning lesson.
 

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Touch a punt!!!
Who touches a punt you’re taught that in peewee football get away from it get away from it!!!! It’s as fundamentally American as calling a pop-up. I got it. I got it.!!!!! I got it mine mine mine!


That ******* needs to be cut

My God we played too damn well for Coach McCarthy to be screwed over by that stupidity. I’m sick of that lackadaisical bs in this arena.
what’s a punt. sincerely the french man.
 

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Ahh thanks for explaining that. Everyone keeps talking about Curvin but you are the first person to say he got cut for multiple mistakes. I didn’t know that.

And you are right. Them cutting him reeks of desperation and scapegoat. Not some learning lesson.

Here's a good excerpt on Curvin and what led to his cutting. Wasn't simply 1-2 fumbles in a game.

5 fumbles, late to practice, not taking notes, missing a flight etc.

https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/080918&sportCat=nfl

But Richards had one fatal flaw -- mindlessness. Before the opening game of Richard's first season with Dallas, veterans told the rookies that the team's charter flight to Cleveland was departing from Dallas Love Field Airport, not Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport. The lone plebe not to double check, Richards missed the plane. Later in the year, a veteran Cowboy posted a sign in the locker room reading GO TO KROGER'S BEFORE NOV. 20 FOR YOUR FREE TURKEY! It was the oldest clubhouse trick in the book -- and Richards eagerly darted to the supermarket. "Curvin was a f---up," says center Mark Stepnoski, his teammate at Pitt. "If a guy is going to screw up repeatedly, why would you trust him to do anything?" Richards would arrive late to practices and forget little things like, oh, his helmet. In team meetings he refused to take notes, an inexplicable stubbornness that infuriated running backs coach Joe Brodsky.


What especially irked Johnson was Richards' inability to hold on to the football. . But during the 1992 season Richards was a disaster. He fumbled three times in 52 rushing attempts -- compared to Emmitt Smith's two fumbles in 432 chances. His slippery hands especially stood out in practice, where three days rarely passed without Richards coughing it up. Johnson could tolerate a bad week. He could tolerate occasional distractions. He could even tolerate failure (well, at least to some degree). He could not tolerate fumbling.


"It's a shame, because physically Curvin was a carbon copy of Emmitt Smith," says Tony Jordan, a running back who spent two years in the NFL and attended training camp with Dallas in 1992. "But culturally Curvin was a little different. He had a laid-back approach that didn't lend itself to the intensity of pro football."


To eradicate the fumbleitis, Johnson would insert Richards into rushing drills and implore defenders to imagine themselves as pigeons and Richards the world's last breadcrumb. "We'd do this drill where nobody was there to block the safeties," says safety Darren Woodson. "It was the toughest drill on the running backs, because a hole would open up and the safeties would just kill whoever was coming through. We knew it was a running drill, and they would put Curvin Richards in and Jimmy would say to us, 'Come down hard and smack the s--- out of him.' Then he'd turn to Curvin and say, 'Make sure you hold on to the ball.'" Sometimes Richards held on. Oftentimes he didn't. "When that happened," says Woodson, "you are talking about the wrath of God coming down. 'G--******! Motherf-----! What the hell!'"



In 13 carries, Richards fumbled twice. His first was returned 42 yards by Chicago lineman Chris Zorich. "Man, Jimmy was mad," says Tim Daniel, a Cowboys wide receiver. "I was standing right there when he turned to Curvin and said, point blank, 'If you fumble again, your a-- is cut and you'll never carry the ball for the Dallas Cowboys again.'" Then Richards fumbled again. Johnson yanked him. As he jogged toward the sideline, Richards surely expected to be browbeaten by Johnson. Instead, the coach said the worst thing possible: absolutely nothing.
 

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Do yall think he was simply trying to play tag with the football? he was trying to catch the dang thing and if he was good at catching he probably be a receiver. Yes it was terrible, he messed up and should have gotten out of the way because it's much harder to catch a football with how wildly it can bounce around.
 

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Yes- our coaches are…….not great, but this is a special teams guy. Probably a practice squad guy.

I’m sure he knows the rule- but when the ball came bouncing at him, he froze up and just grabbed at it.

Obviously I don’t (and neither do you) how much time they spend on blocked punt scenarios. I’d assume the block was on since they got it—-so it’s very likely that a no name player made a no name play at the worst time.

But at least our fearless Micah Parsons handled it with professionalism.
 
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