It isn't your money

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You miss the point of cap arguments. Its not a jealousy thing. Nobody cares if CD makes 50M or 5M. As you said, it is not our money. It makes no difference to fans. The cap arguments are about how can we use the cap money available in way that builds a better team. Is making Dak and CD the highest paid players at their positions a smart use of cap dollars? Who is sacrificed to make those contracts work? Can we improve the team making those contracts b/c this isn't KC or SF where we just need to hold a nucleus of players together who have proven they can get to the big game. We aren't even close. So, we need to have these salary cap discussions bc the contracts affect the ability of the team to improve.

His point, cap is manipulated. I think you missed that.

Dak had 17,19,23 M cap hit the first three years. We had 15M and 20M on the cap past two years. We were able to sign, Cooper and diggs and few others the past three years. We could have signed one of the top or better DTs in the league instead chose Hankins.

So it's not about the cap. It's about knowing how to put a team together that can compete. Our GM is not capable with all the cap space possible.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

There is truth in what you are saying but you don't seem to understand the whole truth. Yes, salary caps can be manipulated but every trick used has a consequence, as well as a benefit. You're not taking into account the consequences. The can can't be kicked down the road forever. Eventually, the bill has to be paid in full. The Cowboys are facing bills that must be paid in full. Dak, CeeDee, and Micah are large contracts and not all can be paid at the same time. Micah can be paid later but the other two are due now.

But that's the point. Every team and I mean every team kicks the can down the road. At some point everyone pays.

And the point is you have a windoe of what? 4 or 5 years to make a run and win one and then rebuild. You can't build a team to compete for 10 or 15 years unless you get a mahomes or Brady to cover the warts. And those are generational talent that don't fall off the apple tree.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

I care about winning SB # 6 and money has nothing to do with it.
Get me a QB who can do this (instead of doing the Deer in the Headlight dance) and you can pay him 1 BILLION $$$$$

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The salary Cap is real and paying top $ to B and C grade players will catch up with you sooner than later.
This is our dilemma and as we have signed no one with a massive new deal to date seems some Cap cleaning is on its way!!

 

[plymkr]

1.6 million

https://www.minneapolisfed.org/about-us/monetary-policy/inflation-calculator

Thanks. Man that just shows you how much salaries have skyrocketed

 

[buybuydandavis]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

Capped league.
Cap and draft picks are your resources to build a team.
That's the NFL.
It's just bizarre that people can talk themselves into thinking the cap doesn't matter.

 

[Runwildboys]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

The only thing that bothers most fans isn't the spending. It's spending efficiency. The salary cap amount has a floor and a ceiling, so there's a certain range they must spend. Throwing so much of that money at someone who won't make up for the talented players they can't afford, because of that player's piece of the pie is what angers many fans.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I care about winning SB # 6 and money has nothing to do with it.
Get me a QB who can do this (instead of doing the Deer in the Headlight dance) and you can pay him 1 BILLION $$$$$

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

If fans can't pocket watch and call people greedy whose careers can end abruptly. Whats the point of being a fan?!? Football? pssh! Who actually watches that in 2024?!?

 

[MyFairLady]

This is just about the most ignorant outlook on being a fan that I could ever imagine.

 

[cowboyed]

Its based on league revenue.

They chose to pursue a harder job than you. Most...lucky to have have God Given measurements. But they still pursued it.

You pursued a less lucrative job. Maybe because of God Given measurements.

Lastly...its not about sports anymore...its about math. You should ask yourself why? Why are all sports message boards over run with talking about math and business?

Because this isnt real. Its about winding up your mind. Its an illusion to make your mind spin. Your mind spinning/working is profit for the Creator. The Creator is not about good or bad...its about profit. Good and Bad are tools to reach an end goal. Means to an end.

The league could make this way more less complicated...but it doesnt want to. Why? All team owners collude to find a Commissioner...why cant they all collude to fix the QB Market situation by all agreeing to not pay a QB more than x amount? Or install something along the lines of Bird Rights that the NBA has? Why?

This is akin to bow shooting an arrow into the air and missing.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I don't care about the players money. I never have. They should try to get what they can and it's not like Jerry is going to spend it on free agents anyway. What I don't like is players who talk about being the highest paid at their position and yet continually don't show up when it matters. It's a slap at us fans. It gets to the point where I don't care if said player stays or leaves because it doesn't make any difference. And it's another instance of players putting themselves before the team. That's what I don't like about today's NFL.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Not our money, but our money pays their bills, and allows them to miss camp to make a point!

So your assumption is the player missing camp is the players fault?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

His point, cap is manipulated. I think you missed that.

Dak had 17,19,23 M cap hit the first three years. We had 15M and 20M on the cap past two years. We were able to sign, Cooper and diggs and few others the past three years. We could have signed one of the top or better DTs in the league instead chose Hankins.

So it's not about the cap. It's about knowing how to put a team together that can compete. Our GM is not capable with all the cap space possible.

This team is a bunch of overrated/overpaid losers feeding off bottom dwellers while folding like cheap tents vs any playoff-caliber team.
Bravo to management, All-In translates into the following..............You want the $$$$ then prove that you are worth it and can get the job done in the playoffs (if they make them that is) or else you're out the door!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Cap talk is irrelevant when winning is a non-factor esp in the playoffs!!

 

[shabazz]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

I guess you better spread your virtuous message of " not caring about another man's money" to every sports media outlet in the country

Literally every single media outlet has discussed players salaries and its impact on teams.......and the fans will as well because IT MATTERS.


As long as a salary cap exists, so will this debate.

 

[Coogiguy03]

So your assumption is the player missing camp is the players fault?

If that makes you happy I have no Clue on earth what you're talking about

 

[Coogiguy03]

Then stop buying merchandise. Stop going to games. Stop watching.

All of those activities contribute.

Yes sir Captain!!

 

[MyFairLady]

I just don't understand how anyone who watched that Green Bay game can ever feel good about any of these guys getting big time long term deals. I mean they literally folded up the tent and went some in the second quarter of a playoff game.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

NFL teams (and other leagues) have proven over and over again they can manipulate the salary CAP in multiple ways to build the teams with the players they want. So any excuse that involves insufficient funds is just an excuse. Having said that, every team makes different strategic choices when it comes to managing the salary CAP.

As for player salaries, even the lowest paid players make salaries that are mere fantasies to 99.9% of fans. So, I’ve never understood why fans take sides when it comes to disputes between millionaires and billionaires. I’ve worked for 36 years as an engineer, and haven’t made as much as Dak Prescott will make in 2 games. I’ve supported my family, sent 3 children to college, and am paying for a 2nd wedding this year. And it’s been enough.

Bottom line: it’s not my money. It isn’t your money either. Arguing over salary CAP dollars and player salaries is really among the most useless things a fan can do. We cannot relate to wealth at that level.

Does CeeDee, or Dak, or Micah “deserve” the money they’ll get? Is it fair that they make so much more these days than players like Larry Allen or Emmitt Smith made back in the day. WHO CARES? It’s not my money.

And it isn’t yours either. Pretending it matters to fans is just another psychological fantasy to engage fans. I won’t be sucked into those arguments anymore. I prefer to discuss football, not finances.

The trick is on us. The owners put a cap on what players can make ..but there is no cap on what owners can make. And that allows the players to stay in the crosshairs of fans...who blame players because owners make fans believe they can't win because of greedy players. The owners make more and more every year whether they win or lose. And they sit back and watch fans cuss and fuss over a players demands. It's comical to me. Fans don't ever complain when players are underpaid. But hate when players want market value after being underpaid for years. Wake up fans .. you've been had.

Cowboy nation should have long ago risen up against this nonsensical org structure that has held us back for the last 30 years. So until we unite and do something drastic to force the Jones family to make changes...I don't care what the players make. Jerry should not be the only person allowed to rob cowboy fans!

Lastly, I'm so jealous that the Commanders finally got their owner to sell. If only we could be so lucky.

 

[Coogiguy03]

I just don't understand how anyone who watched that Green Bay game can ever feel good about any of these guys getting big time long term deals. I mean they literally folded up the tent and went some in the second quarter of a playoff game.

But we love them and love the progress they're making we really think highly of them