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It's about that time ladies and gents, hang it up on Jason Witten

Discussion in 'Overtime Zone' started by acer941, Nov 29, 2014.

  1. acer941

    acer941 Well-Known Member

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    It's about time to hang up the curtain on our boy Jason Witten. Hate to say it but all NFL players get old and lose a step or two and Witten is no different.

    To me it seems like he's just a shell of himself. I never see him able to hit the seems like years past or even be much of a factor besides grabbing 5 yard passes when the O-line gives Romo decades to pass. I don't think he should be benched, but rather have his snap count cut by 40% for now. So we can use this great young weapon in Escobar with his fresh legs!
  2. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    "Hang up the curtain" is an idiom I'm not familiar with. And if all you can sell Escobar with is "fresh legs" I'm not buying.
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  3. ologan

    ologan Well-Known Member

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    So I think it's time to "Bring down the curtain" on this thread.
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  4. Boyzmamacita

    Boyzmamacita CowBabe Up!!! Zone Supporter

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    Witten is quite productve. It shows up better when we win. Everybody looks better when we win.
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  5. acer941

    acer941 Well-Known Member

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    If your biggest argument is Jason Wittens 5 catches for 70yds against the Washington Redskins while we had our back up QB, focusing on him as a safety blanket than your are eyes are clouded my friend. Don't know how long youve been watching this team, but for the season already 5 games shy away from being over and Witten hasn't reached 500yards or even a 100yd game yet. He completely deserves part of the blame in the offense sputtering...

    Jason Witten had plenty of star performance games when Terrell Owens was on the field also when even Roy Williams became a team member. And neither of those guys commanded as much attention as Dez Bryant is getting this year
  6. acer941

    acer941 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't call 470 yards and 4 touch downs productive from a so called star Tight end and safety blanket. I'd call that sluggish and ineffective. Can't get complacent with the older players off of what they "have did" instead of what they are "are doing". There's a Reason why the good teams stay at the upper echelon and we've just now got a taste of it with it drying up fast.
  7. xwalker

    xwalker Well-Known Member

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    People like to create new threads with attention getting concepts. How about they just start by reducing his snap count by 10% or 20%?
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  8. Dave_in-NC

    Dave_in-NC Well-Known Member

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    You need to watch him a little closer then. He blocks well and has blocked well enough for Murray to turn the corner for scores on several occasions this season. He goes where Williams won't and takes the hits Williams won't. Your post is way off.
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  9. BAZ

    BAZ Drunken Mick

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    I didn't mention any of this so it would appear the argument is with voices in your head. I've been watching for 22 years and Witten is not a liability. Escobar is not that much of an asset. And the measure of a tight end isn't 100 yard games. Beasley emerging as a third down marker mover is going to detract from Jason's numbers, same with Murrays carries. I was at the Jags game sitting at the end zone when he ran down the seam and had Romo miss him. Looked sharp to me. But I'm no expert on fresh legs.
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  10. cowboys1981

    cowboys1981 Well-Known Member

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    Way to look at it one dimensional! I guess his role in blocking for our run game isn't significant.
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  11. LittleBoyBlue

    LittleBoyBlue Redvolution

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    He never had a step to lose.
    Slow, but one of the most productive tight ends in the history of the nfl.

    You should lose postng privileges for.... "No posting for you ....one year!!!! Lol
  12. nalam

    nalam The realist

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    I have been saying the same , JW has been great but his YAC has disappeared for 2-3 years , it's a shame a TE can't even break a tackle long enough to get a single yard for a 1st down . His blocking is still good but sometime they overestimate , like him blocking JPP alone , also I remember in that botched playoff game Ray Allen made a mincemeat of him on way to Romo .

    if they really believe Escobar ( if not wonder why a 2nd round pick was invested) they need to let him have more snaps so that we can see if he has it and his speed and reach will be a definite help , in the thanksgiving game the speed differential between the teams was so apparent.

    At the same time I'm for giving more snaps for Street than Williams , as street was supposed to be a better route runner
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  13. big dog cowboy

    big dog cowboy THE BIG DOG Moderator

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  14. acer941

    acer941 Well-Known Member

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    This. I never said bench him, because it won't happen and wouldn't be the best option for the team right now.

    Jason Wittens Run blocking has always been on par with some NFL tackles, great form and techniques. Pass blocking can leave something to be desired.

    - My argument is simply that good to great Tightends have good game speed and once that fades they slowly become a non factor. There's no way you can tell me 100% that you believe Witten commands the same attention from a Defense and a Defensive coordinator that he did 4 years ago.

    Take your Cowboy Shades off for a minute and just view the team as a Business which it is at the Heart.
  15. links18

    links18 Well-Known Member

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    Witten's decline is way low on the list of worries right now. I do agree they could try to get Escobar a little more involved though.
  16. acer941

    acer941 Well-Known Member

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    Yes! I grow tired of a 240 pound tightend getting tackled by a corner in slow motion for a 5 yard gain on 3rd and 6+. Or Witten doing one of his famous juke moves that my Deceased grandma could keep up with.

    Seems like he's just lost his physical nature. Even in the Run Game he doesn't demolish anyone, he takes poeple out of the play. Which I have nothing wrong with, just would prefer more
  17. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Admin

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    Sooner or later they will get rid of, bench or reduce his role and a handful of posters will crow how they called for it and yell I told you so and the rest will say... Cool story bro, here's a cookie.
  18. cowboys1981

    cowboys1981 Well-Known Member

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    I don't wear shades! You post this after a loss to think you have some kind of point and you don't. Witten is critical to our offense because of his ability to block and catch. Find me a TE that does both as good as Witten.
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  19. Venger

    Venger Well-Known Member

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    That catch he made on our game winning drive against the Giants was pretty productive.

    We have alot of weapons on offense, and we are giving the ball to our running back on twice as many offensive snaps. There is only one ball in the game, can't always feed Witten to prop his numbers up so forum members don't dogpile him...
  20. pancakeman

    pancakeman Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he should be silenced, but rather have his post count cut by 40% for now. ;)
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