It's Official: David Irving is a monster

aikemirv

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Uh, I don't know, an isolated event in his NFL career.

He's a bad, bad boy. Just like Gregory and The Kraken. Release him. We have better "RKG's" on the practice squad.

WAH WAH WAH THE BOOGIE MAN

Everyone is doing PEDS, son, Irving is a frigging condor. It's okay for you to enjoy him.

It's okay.

Tell that to Lance Armstrong. Everybody's doing it did not help his reputation one bit! And his was mostly blood doping which would not "damage" you like steroids do. It is his health, just like smoking choice, but it should not be accepted as OK in a competitive sport.
 

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It is a no brainer to tender him with a first. They may need to look at other options as well.

If he keeps up his sack totals the rest of the year at the same pace, even a first might not stop some rush hungry team from surrendering the pick for him.
If a team is willing to part with a 1st, don't you have the ability to match the contract first?
 

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If possible i would sign him long term and franchise Tank,not sure that can work with the Martin contract looming.
 

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If a team is willing to part with a 1st, don't you have the ability to match the contract first?
Pretty sure they can, if they want. Not positive though.
 

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Tell that to Lance Armstrong. Everybody's doing it did not help his reputation one bit! And his was mostly blood doping which would not "damage" you like steroids do. It is his health, just like smoking choice, but it should not be accepted as OK in a competitive sport.
We're talking football. With obviously roided up monsters.

Not bicycle racing. Was Lance using steroids or HGH?

In any event, I obviously don't want to see Irving suspended again.
 

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Tell that to Lance Armstrong. Everybody's doing it did not help his reputation one bit! And his was mostly blood doping which would not "damage" you like steroids do. It is his health, just like smoking choice, but it should not be accepted as OK in a competitive sport.

Meh, your acting like he got popped for HGH or anabolic steroids. It was a freaking pre workout supplement. Not at all the same.
 

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We're talking football. With obviously roided up monsters.

Not bicycle racing. Was Lance using steroids or HGH?

In any event, I obviously don't want to see Irving suspended again.

Lance was blood doping - enriching your blood with extra oxygen and putting it back in.
 

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Meh, your acting like he got popped for HGH or anabolic steroids. It was a freaking pre workout supplement. Not at all the same.

I did not mean to act like anything. I did not even know the specifics of his suspension. I was just talking PED (Performance Enhancing Drugs) in general.
 
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He was my hero at one point. So sad things went the way they did, his fault or otherwise.

I really enjoyed watching Lance. Everybody in Cycling enhances in some way. I will never believe you can ride 150 miles at 35 miles per hour as a normal human. I think most of the Tour titles he was stripped from had the top 10 finishers found doping as well. I don't look at him any different really. He was just keeping pace....

That is really why I hate justifying any NFL player doing anything to enhance. It comes back down to the High School level and those kids don't need that crap! In my perfect world I guess.....

It would be nice to get back to a level playing field.
 

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I did not mean to act like anything. I did not even know the specifics of his suspension. I was just talking PED (Performance Enhancing Drugs) in general.

In fairness I dont know what he took. His testosterone levels were raised though. He claimed it was a pre-workout but without knowing his testing levels who the hell knows. I understand certain banned substances and agee with your take. But, the NFL has extended out the policy to ban things that are far from anabolic steroids, which is why guys are getting popped for taking routine supplements that have an "unknown" ingredient in it.
 

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I really enjoyed watching Lance. Everybody in Cycling enhances in some way. I will never believe you can ride 150 miles at 35 miles per hour as a normal human. I think most of the Tour titles he was stripped from had the top 10 finishers found doping as well. I don't look at him any different really. He was just keeping pace....

That is really why I hate justifying any NFL player doing anything to enhance. It comes back down to the High School level and those kids don't need that crap! In my perfect world I guess.....

It would be nice to get back to a level playing field.
I don't take anything away from his four titles, either.

As for HS ball, I think you'd be surprised to see how many HS kids are doping, as well, Aik. There is no level playing field in sports, you're either doping or not. At every level, HS-up. In all four major sports.

It may be unfortunate, but it is what it is. Baseball was never more electric than during the PEDs era.
 

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You don't let "War Daddy's" get away if you're smart. Jerry just open up the change purse and pay
out some of your tip money.
 
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