It's Simple! Taco Needs Seasoning

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Why do you not believe Taco is athletic? There's no measurable of his recorded that would indicate he lacks any athleticism.
Forget his combine numbers and simply watch him play. He needs to put on some mass and improve his upper body strength to use his long arms to his advantage. Right now, compared to NFL-caliber OT's, he doesn't have enough strength to keep the OT off his body...and once an OT get's into his chest, it's over.

To be clear, I'm not saying everything is going to be okay. Alot hinges on his commitment to getting better and stronger and his mental ability to be deaf to the criticism he is definitely going to hear over the course of his first year if he doesn't make some kind of splash. But, if he commits himself to getting better and stronger where he needs to be stronger, we could have a good player on our hands. He may never be great, but given where he was picked and after whom he was picked, that should be somewhat expected.
 

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You can't season athleticism into a player.

I don't know, we'll see. I'm hoping for a decent rotational DE at this point. Anything else would be gravy.

Think again.

Take a look at these workout numbers for two current NFL players, compared to Charlton:

Height Weight Arms Hands 40 YD Vertical Broad 3-cone SS
Taco Charlton 6-6 277 34 1⁄4 9 3⁄4 4.92 33 116 7.17 4.39
Player A 6-5 266 35 1⁄2 9 3⁄4 4.87 35 120 7.07 4.38
Player B 6-5 269 33 1⁄2 10 1⁄4 4.86 32 120 6.89 4.21


Extremely similar physical dimensions and workout numbers between all three players. Who do you think those other two are?

I’ll let you know at the end of the article, but here’s a hint, they were both drafted in the first round within the last five years and both have had at least one season with double-digit sacks.


Before we get to that though let’s move on to some of the great statistical analysisdone by our very own OCC, which intersected SPARQ scores with a player’s production ratio. This analysis quantified Charlton as a “Quadrant A” player, and what is Quadrant A? I’ll let OCC explain it:

The A quadrant (top right) is where you should find the players most likely to succeed at the NFL level. They have a strong track record of production and have the pre-requisite athleticism that should allow them to compete at the NFL level. Six defensive ends from this year's draft class populate this quadrant, which makes this a solid DE draft class.

The other five “Quadrant A” players were BTB favorite Jordan Willis, Tarell Basham, my personal favorite in the second-round (before the Charlton pick), Trey Hendrickson, Derek Rivers, and Hunter Dimick.


And then there’s this from Ryan Ramczyk, the Wisconsin left tackle that the New Orleans Saints selected with the 32nd pick last night:

When asked to name his most difficult opponent, Wisconsin tackle Ryan Ramczyk thought for a second and then said, “Taco Charlton at Michigan. He’s a quick pass rusher and he backs it up with power. It was a good challenge.’’

Edited and cut out to fit:

Pretty decent spin move for a near 280 lb. defensive end to leave a first-round left tackle lunging wouldn’t you say?


And just for fun, take a look at this play from the Ohio St. game, which was perhaps Charlton’s best of the year on the biggest stage:

Tackles Curtis Samuel for No Gain
That’s Curtis Samuel, a 4.31 40 running back/receiver that Charlton tracks down on a jet sweep.

How’s that for athleticism?

Oh, and those two unnamed players mentioned earlier with the oddly similar size and workout numbers?

Player A is Chandler Jones, a guy with nearly 50 sacks over five seasons who just signed an $80+ million extension to play 3-4 OLB with the Arizona Cardinals.

Player B is Joey Bosa, the 2016 Defensive Rookie of the Year, who put up 10.5 sacks in just 12 games.

This isn’t to say that Charlton will win Rookie of the Year, consistently put up double-digit sacks or make several Pro Bowls, the point is that workout numbers are an important part of the process, but they aren’t what define the process.


Charlton will never be an explosive speed demon off the edge, but there is a very good chance that the Cowboys just got a well-rounded, high-floor, yet still-higher ceiling defensive end who should be a mainstay on the line for years to come.
 

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We reached for a guy because of need. There were better prospects, and we took an athletically limited guy who I hope can at least be a rotational guy.
That's a bit of a snap judgement. Who was better and available in his mold? I say "his mold" because I suspect you have Watt on your mind and Watt would have been used as a passrush specialist, whereas Taco is more of a 3 down player. If he can simply add some upper-body strength, and add a few passrush moves and there counter moves to his repertoire, he'll be fine. Of course, alot also hinges on his commitment to getting better, so we will see...
 

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Think again.

Take a look at these workout numbers for two current NFL players, compared to Charlton:

Height Weight Arms Hands 40 YD Vertical Broad 3-cone SS
Taco Charlton 6-6 277 34 1⁄4 9 3⁄4 4.92 33 116 7.17 4.39
Player A 6-5 266 35 1⁄2 9 3⁄4 4.87 35 120 7.07 4.38
Player B 6-5 269 33 1⁄2 10 1⁄4 4.86 32 120 6.89 4.21


Extremely similar physical dimensions and workout numbers between all three players. Who do you think those other two are?

I’ll let you know at the end of the article, but here’s a hint, they were both drafted in the first round within the last five years and both have had at least one season with double-digit sacks.


Before we get to that though let’s move on to some of the great statistical analysisdone by our very own OCC, which intersected SPARQ scores with a player’s production ratio. This analysis quantified Charlton as a “Quadrant A” player, and what is Quadrant A? I’ll let OCC explain it:

The A quadrant (top right) is where you should find the players most likely to succeed at the NFL level. They have a strong track record of production and have the pre-requisite athleticism that should allow them to compete at the NFL level. Six defensive ends from this year's draft class populate this quadrant, which makes this a solid DE draft class.

The other five “Quadrant A” players were BTB favorite Jordan Willis, Tarell Basham, my personal favorite in the second-round (before the Charlton pick), Trey Hendrickson, Derek Rivers, and Hunter Dimick.


And then there’s this from Ryan Ramczyk, the Wisconsin left tackle that the New Orleans Saints selected with the 32nd pick last night:

When asked to name his most difficult opponent, Wisconsin tackle Ryan Ramczyk thought for a second and then said, “Taco Charlton at Michigan. He’s a quick pass rusher and he backs it up with power. It was a good challenge.’’

Edited and cut out to fit:

Pretty decent spin move for a near 280 lb. defensive end to leave a first-round left tackle lunging wouldn’t you say?


And just for fun, take a look at this play from the Ohio St. game, which was perhaps Charlton’s best of the year on the biggest stage:

Tackles Curtis Samuel for No Gain
That’s Curtis Samuel, a 4.31 40 running back/receiver that Charlton tracks down on a jet sweep.

How’s that for athleticism?

Oh, and those two unnamed players mentioned earlier with the oddly similar size and workout numbers?

Player A is Chandler Jones, a guy with nearly 50 sacks over five seasons who just signed an $80+ million extension to play 3-4 OLB with the Arizona Cardinals.

Player B is Joey Bosa, the 2016 Defensive Rookie of the Year, who put up 10.5 sacks in just 12 games.

This isn’t to say that Charlton will win Rookie of the Year, consistently put up double-digit sacks or make several Pro Bowls, the point is that workout numbers are an important part of the process, but they aren’t what define the process.


Charlton will never be an explosive speed demon off the edge, but there is a very good chance that the Cowboys just got a well-rounded, high-floor, yet still-higher ceiling defensive end who should be a mainstay on the line for years to come.
Good info and that very well may be a better description of his ceiling, but I still say he is going to need to add a little upper body strength to truly scratch the surface of that potential.
 

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Sounds like a guy you take in the third or beyond.
That depends on the draft. This draft featured a run on DE's in the first, so the Cowboys probably felt handcuffed to making a move because they were watching all their draft board targets getting gobbled up early, which is why they waited until the second day to address corner, even though that need may of actually been more pressing...after all they did draft 3 corners and 1 safety. I think they would have liked to draft a corner first, considering they lost both of their starters from a year ago, but DE's were flying off the board. In Taco, they saw a guy who made a leap in each year that he played and I suspect they were hoping for that same kinda leap here. It may still happen this year, but if I were a betting man, I'd place my chips on 2018.
 

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That depends on the draft. This draft featured a run on DE's in the first, so the Cowboys probably felt handcuffed to making a move because they were watching all their draft board targets getting gobbled up early, which is why they waited until the second day to address corner, even though that need may of actually been more pressing...after all they did draft 3 corners and 1 safety. I think they would have liked to draft a corner first, considering they lost both of their starters from a year ago, but DE's were flying off the board. In Taco, they saw a guy who made a leap in each year that he played and I suspect they were hoping for that same kinda leap here. It may still happen this year, but if I were a betting man, I'd place my chips on 2018.

the comparison will be our draft picks with 22nd pick DE/takk/watt in the 1st, some DB in the 2nd and Basham/etc in the 3rd
 

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In all fairness, "Spicy" is going up against arguably the best offensive line in the NFL, with players like All Pro Smith & athletic freak Collins set to give him fits. This will only make him better for his rookie debut, and he'll need all the fire breeding he can get based upon the 'Boys opponents he'll be up against this season. In camp he's been receiving a mix of both first and second team reps, as the team continues to bring him along. No worries, he's a diamond in the rough with he proper training.
Exactly. Provided he has the right attitude and commitment to his craft, he'll be fine. It is just going to take time. I've been watching football for a long time and I tell people every year if you aren't drafting the de in the top 10 chances are it's going to take awhile for him to acclimate to the pro level. Rare is the de that comes in with the requisite strength to handle NFL-caliber OT's. And if they already have it, like I said before, they are most likely going in the top 10 of the first round.
 

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Looks like a 2-3 year development project...
 

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Cut him some slack.

Nobody does well when playing opposite Ulrick John.
 

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While I do think he still has some RDE potential, he does fit better at LDE for now. Excellent pun with the title btw.
I was very proud of that pun, btw. :thumbup:

And from the moment they drafted him, I thought he is a LE...especially with Tapper being much more suitable for RE with his elite athleticism. Tapper absolutely fly's off the ball. I really like what we are seeing from that kid early.
 

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I think he will be another solid body for the rotation this year, which is still valuable. Then, we'll just have to see.
 

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I have said it over and over since we drafted him...despite being a first round pick, Taco is a bit of a project. His size and length demands he play LE, in my opinion, (which is where the Cowboys featured him last night), however, to play LE and be effective he will need a year in a strength and conditioning program before he can use his length to his advantage. His length needs to be supplemented by strength...and until he does that, he will be hard pressed to keep NFL-caliber OT's off his body.

I know it sucks that our first round pick may not make much of an impact this year, but if he has the right attitude, the right commitment, and the requisite heart, he'll be just fine. Of course, that is a BIG "if," but that's the gamble you take in every draft with every player. If they don't have the aforementioned intangibles, there talent and physical prowess means absolutely nothing on a professional level.

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Your first round pick should flash and show signs of being special. Hopefully we will see that out of Taco.

A first round pick is too high for a guy who can't come in and play at a reasonably high level his first year. If Taco takes a year to mature and start next year and play at at an average level and never exceed that level, then he was over drafted. Of course hind sight is 20/20.

In order for Taco to fulfill his draft position he should threaten to start this year and play well and be above average over his career. If he does not do that it doesn't make him a bust per se, but it would mean that we reached for him.

I think Taco has potential as a left end. I have said that all along. I do not think he will solve the pass rush issues as a primary pass rusher.

I think he could be a good player for us eventually, but I also think we over drafted him based on hype. He can't man handle pro OTs and he isn't fast enough to run by them. He better work his *** off in the weight room if he plans to go anywhere at the pro level, AND learn to anticipate the snap count AND work on his first step and technique.
 

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Guys can get a fire lit when they underperform on a national stage. I'm betting a lot of the bad get things get straightened out. Butler looks like he's gonna make this offense the next greatest show on turf.
 

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On the flip side, I watched the game last night and didn't see a whole heck of a lot from Cards LB Reddick who was the 13th pick in the first round. He looked very pedestrian out there last night. I don't recall their 2nd round pick S Budda Baker doing a whole heck of a lot either. I think he had a pass breakup. And they were playing against Cowboy 2nd, and 3rd stringers.
 

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the comparison will be our draft picks with 22nd pick DE/takk/watt in the 1st, some DB in the 2nd and Basham/etc in the 3rd
Both Takk and Watt are prototypical RE's. Taco is a LE minus the requisite upper body strength. It's not really a fair comparison because by design the former 2 are blitzing from the blindside. Furthermore, they likely are pass rush specialist predominantly because their weight limits their ability to hold the point of attack against the run game. Once Taco gets his technique up to par and strength to match NFL RT's, he will be huge in shutting down the run. After all, if you want more turnovers, you have to shut down the run first.
 
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