It's Simple! Taco Needs Seasoning

[waldoputty]

Both Takk and Watt are prototypical RE's. Taco is a LE minus the requisite upper body strength. It's not really a fair comparison because by design the former 2 are blitzing from the blindside. Furthermore, they likely are pass rush specialist predominantly because there weight limits their ability to hold the point of attack against the run game. Once Taco gets his technique up to par and strength to match NFL RT's, he will be huge in shutting down the run. After all, if you want more turnovers, you have to shut down the run first.

the comparison is if the player will have impact this year and next year, and how much.
you can have the best player in the world, but does not do us a lot of good if we have to wait till 2019.

 

[jday]

the comparison is if the player will have impact this year and next year, and how much.
you can have the best player in the world, but does not do us a lot of good if we have to wait till 2019.

That's a matter of perspective...tell that to 2019 waldoputty.

2019 waldoputty be like:

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

A first round draft pick shouldn't need seasoning.

 

[waldoputty]

That's a matter of perspective...tell that to 2019 waldoputty.

2019 waldoputty be like:

i dont know.
i dont think you should have to wait till 3rd season for a 1st round pick.

 

[jday]

A first round draft pick shouldn't need seasoning.

Dude...

We are not talking about an exact science here...and that especially applies to either de spot.

The problem?

No farm system in football. A rookie LE typically is not going to be able to match the average RT's upper body strength. The real question is where in the first round did you get him and how many DE's have already came off your board? Because if there was a run on them (like there was this year) you might be forced to reach; especially if you have a definitive need at that position.

 

[jday]

i dont know.
i dont think you should have to wait till 3rd season for a 1st round pick.

I get what you are saying; and I honestly don't think we will have to wait that long. But again everything hinges on his drive and commitment to getting better. If he has that, he's a first round pick regardless of his current impact.

 

[waldoputty]

I get what you are saying; and I honestly don't think we will have to wait that long. But again everything hinges on his drive and commitment to getting better. If he has that, he's a first round pick regardless of his current impact.

if he shows nothing this year and next camp, this pick is going to be killed on this board and everywhere i can think of.
considering 13-3 and we could have gotten watts or move up for takk or the guy on the 22nd, it would get very ugly.

 

[Jake]

I will wait until the next game before any evaluations, then after that, I'll wait until the 3rd game.

This, until the end of the season. People crack me up writing a lineman off after his first preseason game.

 

[GORICO]

I have said it over and over since we drafted him...despite being a first round pick, Taco is a bit of a project. His size and length demands he play LE, in my opinion, (which is where the Cowboys featured him last night), however, to play LE and be effective he will need a year in a strength and conditioning program before he can use his length to his advantage. His length needs to be supplemented by strength...and until he does that, he will be hard pressed to keep NFL-caliber OT's off his body.

I know it sucks that our first round pick may not make much of an impact this year, but if he has the right attitude, the right commitment, and the requisite heart, he'll be just fine. Of course, that is a BIG "if," but that's the gamble you take in every draft with every player. If they don't have the aforementioned intangibles, there talent and physical prowess means absolutely nothing on a professional level.

Thoughts?

dear member--- a couple of months ago i commented why i did not like Taco pick...too slow..not enough power...balance issues..i hope i turn out dead wrong and i have nothing but egg on my face once the jury comes in on him

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I have said it over and over since we drafted him...despite being a first round pick, Taco is a bit of a project. His size and length demands he play LE, in my opinion, (which is where the Cowboys featured him last night), however, to play LE and be effective he will need a year in a strength and conditioning program before he can use his length to his advantage. His length needs to be supplemented by strength...and until he does that, he will be hard pressed to keep NFL-caliber OT's off his body.

I know it sucks that our first round pick may not make much of an impact this year, but if he has the right attitude, the right commitment, and the requisite heart, he'll be just fine. Of course, that is a BIG "if," but that's the gamble you take in every draft with every player. If they don't have the aforementioned intangibles, there talent and physical prowess means absolutely nothing on a professional level.

Thoughts?

Even in practice and during the game I noticed Taco looks legit when he doesn't allow the tackles to get their hands on him. I agree with his strength but maybe until he develops that he needs to practice karate or something

 

[jday]

if he shows nothing this year and next camp, this pick is going to be killed on this board and everywhere i can think of.
considering 13-3 and we could have gotten watts or move up for takk or the guy on the 22nd, it would get very ugly.

Meh. It's happening now. The trick is knowing better.

 

[Zman5]

So are you saying Taco is only a War Baby right now?

 

[waldoputty]

Meh. It's happening now. The trick is knowing better.

this is going to be nothing compared to midseason if he does nothing.
lots of people, including me, are saying - let see the preseason games, let see this season, let see next camp...
lets hope he just needs some moves and the game slows down for him.

 

[jday]

dear member--- a couple of months ago i commented why i did not like Taco pick...too slow..not enough power...balance issues..i hope i turn out dead wrong and i have nothing but egg on my face once the jury comes in on him

Personally, I'm not committing to either eventuality because knowing it is going to take a minute is only half of the equation. The other part all depends on him and what he does about his present lack of strength and passrush moves.

 

[jday]

So are you saying Taco is only a War Baby right now?

In a sense. But there are no guarantees he grows up!

 

[jday]

this is going to be nothing compared to midseason if he does nothing.
lots of people, including me, are saying - let see the preseason games, let see this season, let see next camp...
lets hope he just needs some moves and the game slows down for him.

I thought you might be interested:

Yesterday, before the game, in a response to @erod:


My eyes will pretty much be in the same place as yours but for some reason I am really expecting Taco to struggle in the early going of his career. In fact, I would not be surprised at all if Tapper doesn't outplay him initially. Despite not playing last year and only being a fourth round pick compared to Taco's first round pedigree, the fact that Tapper probably has a better handle of the playbook and spent the offseason in Cowboys strength and conditioning program may give him a slight advantage. That, and given his better overall speed both off the line and the long variety, Tapper seems better suited for RE than does Taco. Taco strikes me as more of a LE, but I could be wrong.

Yesterday at 1:55 PM Report

 

[waldoputty]

I thought you might be interested:

Yesterday, before the game, in a response to @erod:


My eyes will pretty much be in the same place as yours but for some reason I am really expecting Taco to struggle in the early going of his career. In fact, I would not be surprised at all if Tapper doesn't outplay him initially. Despite not playing last year and only being a fourth round pick compared to Taco's first round pedigree, the fact that Tapper probably has a better handle of the playbook and spent the offseason in Cowboys strength and conditioning program may give him a slight advantage. That, and given his better overall speed both off the line and the long variety, Tapper seems better suited for RE than does Taco. Taco strikes me as more of a LE, but I could be wrong.

Yesterday at 1:55 PM Report

we already have how many LDE/3-tech?
dlaw, irving, collins, paea

one can argue TFred was a huh pick, but we needed a center.
we drafted taco to apply pressure.
if he does not apply pressure for 2 years, that is not a 1st round pick.
not with watts after, takk only 1 slot before and another rde at 22nd.
he better apply pressure or this is a massive bust.

we needed pressure and the lowest risk way to get it was watts and trading up.
many here are giving the FO the benefit of doubt because of 2016 and we are not going to freak out after preseason game #1.
if taco is a crushed taco this season, that would be a massive fail after 13-3 and other players were there for the taking. if he does not progress next camp, it would get very ugly.
looks like he needs some pass rush moves and lets hope the games slows down for him.

 

[jday]

we already have how many LDE/3-tech?
dlaw, irving, collins, paea

one can argue TFred was a huh pick, but we needed a center.
we drafted taco to apply pressure.
if he does not apply pressure for 2 years, that is not a 1st round pick.
not with watts after, takk only 1 slot before and another rde at 22nd.
he better apply pressure or this is a massive bust.

we needed pressure and the lowest risk way to get it was watts and trading up.
many here are giving the FO the benefit of doubt because of 2016 and we are not going to freak out after preseason game #1.
if taco is a crushed taco this season, that would be a massive fail after 13-3 and other players were there for the taking. if he does not progress next camp, it would get very ugly.
looks like he needs some pass rush moves and lets hope the games slows down for him.

Frame it however you like, it is what it is... respectfully. At the end of the day, it completely depends on what is happening between Taco's ears rather or not he takes the next step. Truthfully, I am a little concerned. Not everyone can take the scrutiny the Dallas mediots can spew out.

 

[Corso]

Frame it however you like, it is what it is... respectfully. At the end of the day, it completely depends on what is happening between Taco's ears rather or not he takes the next step. Truthfully, I am a little concerned. Not everyone can take the scrutiny the Dallas mediots can spew out.

That's legit.

 

[waldoputty]

Frame it however you like, it is what it is... respectfully. At the end of the day, it completely depends on what is happening between Taco's ears rather or not he takes the next step. Truthfully, I am a little concerned. Not everyone can take the scrutiny the Dallas mediots can spew out.

well the FO said taco was drafted for RDE.
they created those expectations.
it is no surprise marinelli himself is calling taco out after the game because they probably all feel pressure for the pick to perform.