It's time to cut Demarcus Ware

Zordon

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yes he needs to be cut, should have been cut or traded 2 years ago. but this regime lacks forward thinking. they restructure, restructure, restructure until the cows come home and laugh at anyone who dares criticize their financial strategy. they ride their older players into the ground without a hint of preparation for the future. well now the restructuring has reached its peak and we're left with an aging unproductive player and his bloated contract. thank you jerry.
 

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yes he needs to be cut, should have been cut or traded 2 years ago. but this regime lacks forward thinking. they restructure, restructure, restructure until the cows come home and laugh at anyone who dares criticize their financial strategy. they ride their older players into the ground without a hint of preparation for the future. well now the restructuring has reached its peak and we're left with an aging unproductive player and his bloated contract. thank you jerry.

2 years ago he was coming off one of his best seasons in his career lol
 

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I remember meeting Ware as a rookie couldn't wait to have him on this team. Now I can't stand to see him on the field. He is hurting this defense at critical times during the game. He runs right by the QB most of the time and when an opponent needs to convert a 3rd and 10 they know they can rely on Ware to run right past the screen. Ware has become a liability on the field. Then again maybe that is what is being asked of him by this coaching staff.
 

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Put me down for this.

Especially after putting $50 million and 1st and 2nd round draft picks to acquire man corners.

This. At the time I was willing to give Jerry and Redball the benefit of the doubt but it's not looking like a good idea right now.
 

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The problem is not DeMarcus Ware's play, it is the fact that when he gets a pressure quarterbacks can easily step up because we don't get much in the form of non-Hatcher pressures otherwise. But it's an overpay at the current salary.
 

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I remember meeting Ware as a rookie couldn't wait to have him on this team. Now I can't stand to see him on the field. He is hurting this defense at critical times during the game. He runs right by the QB most of the time and when an opponent needs to convert a 3rd and 10 they know they can rely on Ware to run right past the screen. Ware has become a liability on the field. Then again maybe that is what is being asked of him by this coaching staff.
How about when ware runs straight up field and the offense runs a draw right where ware should be. He's a liability
 

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The problem with not having a true GM is that the owner, who is also buddies with the players, develops an attachment to them and their service to the Cowboys and doesn't know when to get rid of them while they have value. The Patriots are good at this; the Cowboys, not so much.
Whether Aikman or Deion or Romo or Witten or Ware, Jerry Jones will not get rid of these players when it's time to make a move. We keep them until they're broken down and have no value.
Yes, this is an admirable trait. But it's not like you're kicking them to the curb without adequate compensation. This isn't corporate America laying off the middle class plunging them into the poor class. This is NFL football where you're letting go millionaries who, if they've invested/handled their money wisely, shouldn't have to work another day in their lives.
Besides, it's the business.
As much as I like Romo, it's time to unload him while we can get something for him. Same with Ware.
I just don't see these two winning a Super Bowl with this franchise. Not that they're not capable, but they just need too many pieces around them (not to mention the right scheme around them) and they're not the type players who can get it done "by themselves" (I use that term not in the sense that any player can do it by himself, but some players, rare players, have that ability to lift even average players, and I don't see the Romo of 2013 or Ware being able to do that).
This team needs to be rebuilt, and that means shipping out the valuable players and getting draft picks for them while we can.
Ware can be had for a second round pick. Romo can be had for a first round pick (Kansas City would likely make that trade in a heart beat).
If we had a business-minded, football-competent GM, this would be a no-brainer. But expect Ware and Romo to rot in Dallas and then be discarded like soiled toilet tissue. :(
 
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I think it was a massive mistake to hir Monty Kiffin and employ a 4-3 defense with 3-4 personnel.
Yep.

Ware is a 3-4 edge rusher, period. I hated the move to a 4-3 because I felt he would be less effective as a DE. His injuries have not helped, but the change in scheme has hurt him more than anything.
 

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only a blind gomer thinks DeWare has been bad for several years. Up through the first half of last season he was on a pace to threaten the sack record.

But facts and logic never get in the way of agendas here.
 

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Maybe true....but there are far more that need to be told "Don't come back" before DWare.
 

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only a blind gomer thinks DeWare has been bad for several years. Up through the first half of last season he was on a pace to threaten the sack record.

But facts and logic never get in the way of agendas here.

Why would Cowboys fans have an agenda against Ware? o_O
 

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Ware isn't the player he was due mostly to injuries but I certainly wouldn't cut him. I know everyone is down after Monday Nights game but let's not go overboard. Going overboard is a common theme here after good wins and bad losses. Ware is still tied for second on the team with 6 sacks and that's with 3 missed games. He had 4 sacks in the first 3 games when he started the season healthy. If he wasn't being nagged by injuries he would still produce.

Injuries brought Shawne Merriman down and it appears they're doing the same thing to Ware but I'm not ready to cut him yet because he still has to be accounted for and he won't be easy to replace.. As bad as the defense is anything can happen after the season. If in the next 3 games Ware isn't effective and can't stay on the field the Cowboys might decide to blow the defense up and Ware could be part of it but I still see a lot left in his tank when he's healthy.
 

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It happens to many many premier pass rushers right around this time. Jared Allen who's career has mirrored Ware's in many ways also is slowing down (7 sacks in 13 games this year. 12 last year. 22 two years ago).

In a perfect world I would like to see:
  • Ware take a pay cut that allows him to make back most of the difference in incentives
  • Ware goesd into 2014 as a situational pass rusher only -- no more playing base downs -- his body won't hold up to it anymore
 

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The problem with not having a true GM is that the owner, who is also buddies with the players, develops an attachment to them and their service to the Cowboys and doesn't know when to get rid of them while they have value. The Patriots are good at this; the Cowboys, not so much.
Whether Aikman or Deion or Romo or Witten or Ware, Jerry Jones will not get rid of these players when it's time to make a move. We keep them until they're broken down and have no value.
Yes, this is an admirable trait. But it's not like you're kicking them to the curb without adequate compensation. This isn't corporate America laying off the middle class plunging them into the poor class. This is NFL football where you're letting go millionaries who, if they've invested/handled their money wisely, shouldn't have to work another day in their lives.
Besides, it's the business.
As much as I like Romo, it's time to unload him while we can get something for him. Same with Ware.
I just don't see these two winning a Super Bowl with this franchise. Not that they're not capable, but they just need too many pieces around them (not to mention the right scheme around them) and they're not the type players who can get it done "by themselves" (I use that term not in the sense that any player can do it by himself, but some players, rare players, have that ability to lift even average players, and I don't see the Romo of 2013 or Ware being able to do that).
This team needs to be rebuilt, and that means shipping out the valuable players and getting draft picks for them while we can.
Ware can be had for a second round pick. Romo can be had for a first round pick (Kansas City would likely make that trade in a heart beat).
If we had a business-minded, football-competent GM, this would be a no-brainer. But expect Ware and Romo to rot in Dallas and then be discarded like soiled toilet tissue. :(

No one is taking these players salaries on, we arent getting picks for either....that said, it may be time to unload Ware. Romo is going to be here for awhile...
 

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He's useless now. So painful just to watch him rush straight up the field past the QB. Screens and RBs run past him every single play. He's a one trick pony. And now that the one trick is no longer working, he looks even worse.
 

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It happens to many many premier pass rushers right around this time. Jared Allen who's career has mirrored Ware's in many ways also is slowing down (7 sacks in 13 games this year. 12 last year. 22 two years ago).

In a perfect world I would like to see:
  • Ware take a pay cut that allows him to make back most of the difference in incentives
  • Ware goesd into 2014 as a situational pass rusher only -- no more playing base downs -- his body won't hold up to it anymore

I think your scenario is the most likely to play out.

I can't see Jerry Jones being smart enough or tough enough to just cut Ware outright, and I think Ware can still contribute.

But, as I've said before, I'm switching back to the 3-4 and getting rid of this antique defense too.

Otherwise, it makes no sense to keep anybody.
 

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You have to consider if you cut Ware you'll not only be losing him but Spencer as well. The Cowboys were apprehensive about signing Spencer long-term the past 2 seasons and now with him missing the entire season with an injury they certainly won't be offering him a long-term contract now. Adding Ware to the loss of Ratliff and Spencer the past year is going to leave some big holes that the Cowboys are going to have a real tough time filling. In 08 Ware had 20 sacks and that total dropped almost in half the following season with 11.0 sacks.

Ware injured his neck against the Giants in week 13 and only had 2 sacks in his final 4 games that season. His sack total was back up to 15.5 in 2010. If his sack totals are down again next season and he can't stay on the field due to his health then I'll be ready to move on from him. The Cowboys still have 3 games left and if Ware were to come up with some big sacks/plays that help the team make the playoffs many will change their tune about cutting him.
 

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It happens to many many premier pass rushers right around this time. Jared Allen who's career has mirrored Ware's in many ways also is slowing down (7 sacks in 13 games this year. 12 last year. 22 two years ago).

In a perfect world I would like to see:
  • Ware take a pay cut that allows him to make back most of the difference in incentives
  • Ware goesd into 2014 as a situational pass rusher only -- no more playing base downs -- his body won't hold up to it anymore

I would agree with this, as bad as he has been this year, I think if we could get some pressure up the middle, Ware wouldn't be near missing on every pass rush. But Ware is no longer an every down player. He needs to be a situational pass rusher, and be paid as such. When a guy by the name of Martez Wilson is getting more pressure than Ware, well that pretty much says it all.
 
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