I've Never Been Afraid To Predict Good Things For The Cowboys

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KJJ

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Green couldn't have? I think he could have just by the talent around him. That team was loaded offensively. Now would he have is another story. May be something said for the team rallying around the BU QB, etc.

The OL in 2009 was much better as a whole than what the Cowboys trotted out on the field in 2011. Sensy and Hamlin may have been our last decent safety combo. Was there still talented players in 2011? Of course. I would never say there wasn't. But top to bottom, I'd take 2009 roster over 2011 every day of the week and twice on Sunday if I was looking to win right now. 2009 team, though aging in several areas of concern, was IMO just a better team overall.

I generally don't count 2010 as a Garrett year. Though if you are going to you have to give the guy credit for turning the team around that season.

If you want to speculate that Trent Green could have duplicated what Warner did go find someone else to play with. As for Garrett he doesn't deserve any credit for his 5-8 record as the interim HC in 2010 Jerry deserves the credit. He laid into the players after dismissing Wade telling them he didn't fire him they did. He told them they better not pack it in because they'll be playing for their jobs the rest of the season. If Garrett had anything to do with the teams improved play the final 8 games of the 2010 season the Cowboys wouldn't be stuck at 8-8 under him the past 3 seasons.
 

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Correction: Garrett doesn't deserve any credit for his 5-3 record as the interim HC in 2010 that all goes to Jerry for waking the team up. That was Wades team all Garrett did was stand there and continue calling plays which is more responsibility than he has now.
 

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Maybe, maybe not, what?

Let me see if I can get this straight... OP comes in with an air of superiority, proclaiming anyone who thinks this team is going 8-8 is full of crap, but there's no point in bringing up that OP's predictions are rarely based in reality and rarely correct? If I think the team is 8-8, he thinks I'm full of crap. But if I think he's full of crap, I gotta keep my mouth shut?

I happen to think what I posted is pertinent... and interesting. I guess if you don't think so, you're free to disagree or ignore me.

I happen to think you ought to make your posts about topics, and not other posters. That's a far cry from me telling you to keep your mouth shut. I didn't see him say he thinks your opinion is full of crap, but if he did, he's definitely wrong to try to make his thread about anything other than football.

That said, I think in general that posts that do nothing other than snipe at others for their opinions are neither pertinent, nor interesting. That happens to be my opinion. And, yes, I'll disagree or ignore you when I don't share your opinions, since that's what the site's about.

But do (everybody) take care not to personally attack, insult, or harass another member. It's one thing to disagree with a take, and another to continuously engage in a public slap fight that nobody other than you finds interesting, informative, or can relate in any way to the topic of the thread or the Dallas Cowboys in general.
 

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If you examine the history of the NFL most teams that have gone from bad/mediocre for a period of years to a championship contender over night was due either to a head coaching change or a change at QB. The 99 Rams who were 4-12 the year prior came out of nowhere to win the SB after Kurt Warner took over. The 01 Pats went from a 5-11 team the year prior to winning the SB after Brady took over. The 2011 49ers who hadn't made the playoffs in years and were 6-10 the year prior went 13-3 and reached the NFC title game after Harbaugh took over. They've been a strong contender ever since.

At least record wise, this team's jump would need to be moe like the Giants have been 8-8 instead of 4-12 or 5-11.

Of course,the glaring difference is that it's hardtop imagine tis defense taking over the. Entire playoffs like those Giants did...twice.

The last jump when Parcells /Romo jumped into the pika offs after 5-11. Then Phillips/Romo went 13-3. But the didn't get past round 2.
 

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I agree that the talk that Ware is washed up is a little premature. He will have Von Miller opposite him and I think the Broncos will not ride him to be the bell cow with a collection of nobodies. But all in all, it was a bandaid that needed to be ripped off quickly. We could not keep holding onto him like a prized heirloom.

He had to go because of his contract, but it will be interesting to see how much attention he really got even if he wasn't 100%. Might see Selvie crash back to reality.
 

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Whichever one you need it to be to justify being angry about the analogy.

Not angry about it a bit. It was an honest question and one I feel is relevant.

But if you feel the need to use the question to continue to paint yourself as a victim, please continue.
 

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Maybe it's time you shed your so called fandom of the Cowboys?

Why? Is it because he doesn't agree with you? I guess a real fan would happy with this mess that has continued over the last several years. Some fans are sick and tired of the excuses and poor results. I have been a Cowboy fan for over 45 years. There are many fans that have been around for just as long , if not longer and they are simply fed up with unrealistic fairy tales. Maybe Pep wants a honest discussion instead of cheerleading, but some posters are thin- skinned and can't handle the truth.
 

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Correction: Garrett doesn't deserve any credit for his 5-3 record as the interim HC in 2010 that all goes to Jerry for waking the team up. That was Wades team all Garrett did was stand there and continue calling plays which is more responsibility than he has now.

Yeah.
In any case, its really normal for a team to play better, short term, when there's coaching change.
 

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Today's Cowboys reminds so much of the Dave Campo Cowboys......only difference is Jason Garrett has a QB and a team with some talent....they coach the same. Plus Jason Garrett is just another Jerry Jones whipping boy.... just like Campo

I could forgive the Campo years due to a lack of talent and many more legit reasons. Garrett has had talent to work with .He has a decent QB and some decent talent at other positions. The progress is not there. The team is stuck in a 8-8 rut and there is no excuse for it.
 

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Be civil people, please.

We will win the next four....no, five SBs and I can go under a happy man. /word
 

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Yeah, but besides that... we should be good.


Seriously though, I have hopes that the defense will play ok this year.

Claiborne, Carr, and Scandrick are solid corners.

Church is a pretty damn good safety. I think between JJ Wilcox and Johnson, we will be ok at the other spot.

I think Carter will play better this year and he has fantastic athleticism.

The SLB should be fine. That is and always has been a position that is easy to fill in this defense.

Melton is a really good player, and now days guys almost always come all the way back from ACL's.

Lawrence is a really good prospect at WDE and the rotation of him and Mincey should be able to put some pressure on the QB. How much? I'm not sure, but I am pretty sure it will be more than Ware did last year.

McClain is WAY better than Hayden at the 1. Hayden coming in as a rotational guy behind McClain should be a big difference for the better.

Crawford is a good player and him coming back and forming a rotation with Selvie... who was good himself... should be a very nice combo on the strongside.

I fully expect Bishop and Coleman to contribute to the DL rotation. Maybe I'm wrong, but what Marinelli asks DL to do in his system isn't that complicated and I think the young guys will be able to step in and play in a rotation from the start. They both certainly have the physical ability to do so, and are significantly better than the guys we had in reserve last year.

So, basically... we have more talent on the DL as a whole and because of how Marinelli asks them to play, I think they'll contribute right away. The LB spots should be fine in year 2 of this 43 and I think Marinelli is going to use the DB's in a manner that they are built for (more man coverage).

Add in that there will be a significant jump in year 2 of the defensive system and I honestly feel like there is a good chance for improvements in a number of defensive spots. Even if nothing else changed, just playing in a second year in this system would make for big improvements.

Personally, I love getting younger and more aggressive on defense, and as much as Ware once did for this franchise, it has been a while since he has had much of an impact. I see guys who are going to play with more of an edge than the players we've had for a while, and that too gives me a lot of hope.

I like the direction, but I understand why some don't... and that is up to the individual.

Personally, I don't think they will be as bad as last year if we don't have anymore major injuries. But to say it's a given that we can't be worse than last year because our defense was so bad last year is a mistake.

We lose Carr or Scandrick for the year and Carter plays as bad as last year, we can be worse than last year.
 

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The Ware comments specifically I couldn't agree more with. I think people are going to see a fresh, returned to form from injury D-Ware, and realise that Dallas made a mistake in letting him go.

I know everyone cries about the money thing but you find a way to work that out and you don't lose a guy like Ware. His loss will be felt a lot more than people seem to realise.

Nope. Ware is done and a bum. Read it right here.
 

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I happen to think you ought to make your posts about topics, and not other posters. That's a far cry from me telling you to keep your mouth shut. I didn't see him say he thinks your opinion is full of crap, but if he did, he's definitely wrong to try to make his thread about anything other than football.

That said, I think in general that posts that do nothing other than snipe at others for their opinions are neither pertinent, nor interesting. That happens to be my opinion. And, yes, I'll disagree or ignore you when I don't share your opinions, since that's what the site's about.

But do (everybody) take care not to personally attack, insult, or harass another member. It's one thing to disagree with a take, and another to continuously engage in a public slap fight that nobody other than you finds interesting, informative, or can relate in any way to the topic of the thread or the Dallas Cowboys in general.

Lol. It was before your time, man, but the delicious irony of your post is just incredible.

Not your fault though!
 

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So your tough love criticism of the team is helping them become better? Or is it making you the more proactive and thus a better fan?

I had to jump in on this. Is optimism helping them? Because I would argue the opposite. When you tell a player he's doing great and will be great, many times they have a tendency to rest on their laurels. Whereas, if you tell them their best wasn't good enough, dependent on their character, they will either quit - which I say good riddance if that's how they respond - or they work harder to get better. I think we can all agree, based on 2013, this team needs to work harder.
 
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